Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[ThereRoseaLamb]

When was I annoyed at you saying that? If it's true, he should be exposed and you have the right to spread facts. Facts don't care about your feelings.

It is true and I should have said y'all instead of you. Kinda. When I meant is if someone says something about Trump that Biden is guilty of, I think that's fair to point out. Most here are annoyed with that.

It's the only logical explanation why his supporters don't condemn the remarks Trump made about his daughter. The dude straight up admits to being attracted to her. It's one thing to say, "Trump was disgusting for saying that, but I do agree with his policies." and it's another to refuse to condemn that degenerate comment.

Maybe we aren't talking about the same comment. Could you fill me in? I think we need to acknowledge these men are from a different era. Doesn't make it right, but they are from a different era. I don't know how deep either of their walks are with God. But they both are men of that era. I've had to correct some of the older men I know. But then we swung back too far the other way with "Me Too" that mysteriously ended when Biden sniffed his way into office.

You shouldn't be upset with anyone who calls out Trump or Biden for things that are factually true.

I'm not as long as people are being fair. I don't see that happening here for the most part.

 

[Smoke]

It's just simple hypocrisy. Many.of these so called "values voters" are demonstrating they are nothing of the sort. You can't say anything because they'll just play wahataboutism, appeal to conspiracies, denial and double standards or call you brainwashed. They love him because he shares thier hatred, and because he is thier tool to attack the libs and weaponize thier anger at the culture they want to control but cannot.

You picked up their m.o. really quickly.

 

[Cameron143]

I wish you were right.

I am right. Peace was breaking out all over the Middle East under Trump. Through a variety of treaties, new alliances were being forged, our enemies were weakened, and virtual peace resulted.
Russia and China were also neutralized. No wars taking place, and sanctions doing real damage to the economies of those who oppose us.
Now we don't use our own resources, but allow the sales of our enemies, contrary to current law. We also have an open boarder allowing enemy combatants and terrorists in. There are also 2 wars raging and our allies and former allies don't trust us to help them.

This may or may not resonate with you. But any unbiased observer knows that Trump was respected and feared by our enemies, and trusted by our friends. Biden couldn't be more opposite.

 

[Susanna]

It's just simple hypocrisy. Many.of these so called "values voters" are demonstrating they are nothing of the sort. You can't say anything because they'll just play wahataboutism, appeal to conspiracies, denial and double standards or call you brainwashed. They love him because he shares thier hatred, and because he is thier tool to attack the libs and weaponize thier anger at the culture they want to control but cannot.

They’re also convenient tools for a certain mad dog over in Moscow. He plays them like a fiddle at a barn party.

 

[Susanna]

It's just simple hypocrisy. Many.of these so called "values voters" are demonstrating they are nothing of the sort. You can't say anything because they'll just play wahataboutism, appeal to conspiracies, denial and double standards or call you brainwashed. They love him because he shares thier hatred, and because he is thier tool to attack the libs and weaponize thier anger at the culture they want to control but cannot.

It’s like the preface of WWII. Focusing hatred against minorities.

 

[Smoke]

It is true and I should have said y'all instead of you. Kinda. When I meant is if someone says something about Trump that Biden is guilty of, I think that's fair to point out. Most here are annoyed with that.

It is fair to point out PROVIDED you realize that isn't a good defense for Trump. Biden isn't the standard, he is the opposite of the standard for me personally. If most Christians were Biden supporters, it would actually make sense to play "whatabout'ism" with Biden. Unless I'm overlooking any Biden supporters here?

Maybe we aren't talking about the same comment. Could you fill me in? I think we need to acknowledge these men are from a different era. Doesn't make it right, but they are from a different era. I don't know how deep either of their walks are with God. But they both are men of that era. I've had to correct some of the older men I know. But then we swung back too far the other way with "Me Too" that mysteriously ended when Biden sniffed his way into office.

It's also true that Lot and his daughters were "from a different era" too, but God had already condemned incest and rape. So pointing out people are from different eras does absolutely nothing to defend the guilty party... so why bring it up if it does nothing to the context?

As for the comment(s) we are speaking about, take your pick... there are a multitude of them.

‘Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife’?

‘If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father...’

‘She has the ‘best body’... (in reference to Ivanka)

‘If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her’

Now this one there isn't video/audio evidence like the ones above, but per WH aides, they said he regularly talked about what it would be like to have sex with Ivanka... John Kelly apparently reminded him that she was his daughter. Did Trump for sure say it? When we consider his previous comments, it's absolutely reasonable and believable he did.

 

[Susanna]

It is fair to point out PROVIDED you realize that isn't a good defense for Trump. Biden isn't the standard, he is the opposite of the standard for me personally. If most Christians were Biden supporters, it would actually make sense to play "whatabout'ism" with Biden. Unless I'm overlooking any Biden supporters here?



It's also true that Lot and his daughters were "from a different era" too, but God had already condemned incest and rape. So pointing out people are from different eras does absolutely nothing to defend the guilty party... so why bring it up if it does nothing to the context?

As for the comment(s) we are speaking about, take your pick... there are a multitude of them.

‘Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife’?

‘If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father...’

‘She has the ‘best body’... (in reference to Ivanka)

‘If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her’

Now this one there isn't video/audio evidence like the ones above, but per WH aides, they said he regularly talked about what it would be like to have sex with Ivanka... John Kelly apparently reminded him that she was his daughter. Did Trump for sure say it? When we consider his previous comments, it's absolutely reasonable.

It’s absolutely repulsive to think about.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Never ask anyone to so something you aren't willing to do yourself.

Very funny.

 

[Susanna]

This is really funny. Add up all the "lies" of Donald Trump and then add up all the lies of Joe Biden. Please do that for us and tell us who is the greatest liar in the world today. But be honest when you list Biden's outrageous DAILY lies.

They’re both lying like fork tongued snakes.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Last time I checked this was a Christian forum. Like, brothers and sisters, when we all get to heaven? What does "your ilk" mean exactly.?

ilk
noun

Definition of ilk

as in kind
a number of persons or things that are grouped together because they have something in common

 

[ZNP]

ilk
noun

Definition of ilk

as in kind
a number of persons or things that are grouped together because they have something in common

Vocabulary.com defines it as

Ilk is a certain type of person, usually a type you don't care for. The word is used in sentences like "I'm tired of you and your ilk! When you say "you and your ilk," you mean "you and everyone just like you." And that's not usually meant in a nice way.

So you said this to me, "your ilk", what do they have in common with me, other than the fact that you don't care for them?

 

[Smoke]

Vocabulary.com defines it as

Ilk is a certain type of person, usually a type you don't care for. The word is used in sentences like "I'm tired of you and your ilk! When you say "you and your ilk," you mean "you and everyone just like you." And that's not usually meant in a nice way.

So you said this to me, "your ilk", what do they have in common with me, other than the fact that you don't care for them?

Got it, so it's not a prerequisite that it be meant in a negative way but it can be.

Christians accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, but I think there are different types of "ilk".

I'll be honest... I always understood that word to mean something equivalent to "filth". Perhaps that's because the context is usually used in that manner though. I'm glad you and seed posted the definition, otherwise I would still be ignorant of the true meaning.

 

[ZNP]

Got it, so it's not a prerequisite that it be meant in a negative way but it can be.

Christians accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, but I think there are different types of "ilk".

I'll be honest... I always understood that word to mean something equivalent to "filth". Perhaps that's because the context is usually used in that manner though. I'm glad you and seed posted the definition, otherwise I would still be ignorant of the true meaning.

I am here to serve!

 

[ZNP]

🚨 Biden Could Be REMOVED From 2024 Ballot Over Border INVASION | He Let 8 MILLION Illegals In!

Wow, the learning curve is getting shorter and shorter.

 

[Susanna]

🚨 Biden Could Be REMOVED From 2024 Ballot Over Border INVASION | He Let 8 MILLION Illegals In!

Wow, the learning curve is getting shorter and shorter.

Nice, both of them getting removed from the ballot.

 

[true_believer]

Good-bye MAGA!!!

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Show me a politician that doesn't stretch the truth and I'll show you flying elephants.

Some M U C H more than others😉😅

 

[Cameron143]

Good-bye MAGA!!!

Well, you are in for a big surprise.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

🚨 Biden Could Be REMOVED From 2024 Ballot Over Border INVASION | He Let 8 MILLION Illegals In!

Wow, the learning curve is getting shorter and shorter.

If Biden Is removed are you ready for the alternative,I mean who will be president If Biden Is removed?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Vocabulary.com defines it as

Ilk is a certain type of person, usually a type you don't care for. The word is used in sentences like "I'm tired of you and your ilk! When you say "you and your ilk," you mean "you and everyone just like you." And that's not usually meant in a nice way.

So you said this to me, "your ilk", what do they have in common with me, other than the fact that you don't care for them?

That every time Trump says something outrages people try to Interpret what he said to really mean something totally different than what he said,It’s like he can’t say ANYTHING wrong.BTW,what did he mean when he said he could shoot someone and not lose Any support.?BTW,I think what he said Is really true to some like yourself.IE..(Ilk)😅