Fails on basic morality

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Adstar

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God throughout the times of the Old testament and indeed the new testament has delivered judgements upon transgressors.. Both individual transgressors and nations..

The Jews have themselves been subjected to judgement because of their transgressions though History. The scriptures ravel how the 10 tribes of Israel where attacked and defeated by the Assyrians and dispersed into subjugation.. The Old testament also reveals how Judah was overcome by the Persians and how the Jews where taken as slaves to Babylon to be in bondage for 70 years there.. And again after the life of Jesus we read that the Judah was attacked by the Romans and that the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed and the Jewish population was sent into exile by the Romans..

But the Hebrews where both subject to Gods wrath and where implements of Gods Wrath.. God took the Hebrews out of Egypt, subjecting the Egyptians to judgements in the process. He took the Hebrews to the lands of Canaan to use the Hebrews as implements of his wrath upon the heathen peoples of those lands.. Part of the punishments of God upon the Canaanites was in some cases extermination of their nations.. Being forced to flee from the Hebrews.. And finally we get to the point of this post.. The judgement of Bondage / slavery.. This was also a punishment upon the heathen nations that the Hebrews attacked.. So the bondage the Canaanites where subjected to was punishment for their many transgressions, one of the sins they committed was the sacrifice of their little ones to baal by fire..

So seeing the picture of the situation as a whole if you are smart enough to read ALL the scriptures of those times one can understand that within the context of the situation during those times the bondage subjected upon the heathens was justified as part of Gods judgement upon them for their evil deeds..

Sadly we seem to have a person here, Real5, who's desire is not to ask genuine questions but to simply partake in an exercise to help reassure himself and justify his rejection of the LORD Jesus and probably also to try and make himself feel morally superior to Christians.. Real5 has repeatedly shown that they are unwilling to take our responses at face value but they have repeatedly projected positions and bad motivations upon the Christians who have responded to the question Real5 posed..

One good thing about experiences like this is that we Christians have our minds exercised and we are motivated to get into the Word of God more and seek the understanding that can come from the inspiration of The Holy Spirit.. :giggle: May God bless you all..
 
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You stated the God you follow is immoral.
I haven't stated this.

Your logic has.

Here's a question on logic

Does logic outline limits of reality itself, or does it merely outline the limits of human cognition
 
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God throughout the times of the Old testament and indeed the new testament has delivered judgements upon transgressors.. Both individual transgressors and nations..

The Jews have themselves been subjected to judgement because of their transgressions though History. The scriptures ravel how the 10 tribes of Israel where attacked and defeated by the Assyrians and dispersed into subjugation.. The Old testament also reveals how Judah was overcome by the Persians and how the Jews where taken as slaves to Babylon to be in bondage for 70 years there.. And again after the life of Jesus we read that the Judah was attacked by the Romans and that the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed and the Jewish population was sent into exile by the Romans..

But the Hebrews where both subject to Gods wrath and where implements of Gods Wrath.. God took the Hebrews out of Egypt, subjecting the Egyptians to judgements in the process. He took the Hebrews to the lands of Canaan to use the Hebrews as implements of his wrath upon the heathen peoples of those lands.. Part of the punishments of God upon the Canaanites was in some cases extermination of their nations.. Being forced to flee from the Hebrews.. And finally we get to the point of this post.. The judgement of Bondage / slavery.. This was also a punishment upon the heathen nations that the Hebrews attacked.. So the bondage the Canaanites where subjected to was punishment for their many transgressions, one of the sins they committed was the sacrifice of their little ones to baal by fire..

So seeing the picture of the situation as a whole if you are smart enough to read ALL the scriptures of those times one can understand that within the context of the situation during those times the bondage subjected upon the heathens was justified as part of Gods judgement upon them for their evil deeds..

Sadly we seem to have a person here, Real5, who's desire is not to ask genuine questions but to simply partake in an exercise to help reassure himself and justify his rejection of the LORD Jesus and probably also to try and make himself feel morally superior to Christians.. Real5 has repeatedly shown that they are unwilling to take our responses at face value but they have repeatedly projected positions and bad motivations upon the Christians who have responded to the question Real5 posed..

One good thing about experiences like this is that we Christians have our minds exercised and we are motivated to get into the Word of God more and seek the understanding that can come from the inspiration of The Holy Spirit.. :giggle: May God bless you all..
Yet cannot post anything condemning owning another human as property.
 

Dino246

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As humans are not property you own. SMH.
A simple 'yes' or 'no' will do fine, thanks. Do you believe that humans evolved from simpler life forms?
 

Cameron143

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My standard. Me. As I don't endorse owning another human as property. Does your standard?
So...if your standard is you, is everyone free to have their own standard or are they required to use your standard?
 

Dino246

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Not owning another human as property.
That is not a basis for morality. It's an expression of morality. I think you can't answer the question because you don't have any standard; you just have anger toward others.

What's your standard, owning, beating and inheriting of a slave. You obviously have no clue of morality.
Your baseless, asinine assumptions don't tell anything about me, but they speak volumes about you.
 
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So...if your standard is you, is everyone free to have their own standard or are they required to use your standard?
Morality would be my standard, as it doesn't involve human ownership. Would you rather be owned by another human, beaten with a weapon and inherited or free?
 
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it was you who stated God asked Abraham something immoral.

I'm repeating what you said.

I'm asking Why did God ask Abraham something immoral.
As it's a immoral fictional character in a collection of books.
 

Dino246

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My, you're a stubborn jackdonkey, aren't you? I say the question is relevant, therefore it is relevant. Answer the question, and you'll see how.
 
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Morality would be my standard, as it doesn't involve human ownership. Would you rather be owned by another human, beaten with a weapon and inherited or free?
where going around in circles.

The only way people could get food a long long time ago was to be a slave.

Let me ask you if you a had to choose between being a slave and your family starving of Hunger, what would you choose.
 
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My, you're a stubborn jackdonkey, aren't you? I say the question is relevant, therefore it is relevant. Answer the question, and you'll see how.
This thread isn't about anything evolving.
 

Dino246

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This thread isn't about anything evolving.
Your answer to the question is relevant to the thread. Quit jinking and just answer the question.
 
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where going around in circles.

The only way people could get food a long long time ago was to be a slave.

Let me ask you if you a had to choose between being a slave and your family starving of Hunger, what would you choose.
This should help you.

 
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