3. to put together by way of composition or combination, to teach by combining and comparing, hence, to show, prove, establish, exhibit (Winer's Grammar, 23 (22))
Can a Person Get to Heaven
- Thread starter MerSee
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
3. to put together by way of composition or combination, to teach by combining and comparing, hence, to show, prove, establish, exhibit (Winer's Grammar, 23 (22))
it is true God need not prove Himself to us.
He already has - though He need not have, even so
He already has - though He need not have, even so
John the Baptist said "bring forth fruit necessary for repentance. What do we do to prove that?
The 180 degree turn requires absolutely nothing? Taking off the old man & putting on the new requires nothing?
Paul said "be transformed by the renewing of our minds." What does that entail?
Jesus Himself was the one who said: "Why do you call me Lord, Lord, & do not the things that I say?"
Is Satan happy when we do absolutely nothing?
How can we look at all this & more & say of man's part it requires nothing?
Watch a baby pulling himself up to learn how to walk, then ask yourself what it took for us to do the same spiritually.
The 180 degree turn requires absolutely nothing? Taking off the old man & putting on the new requires nothing?
Paul said "be transformed by the renewing of our minds." What does that entail?
Jesus Himself was the one who said: "Why do you call me Lord, Lord, & do not the things that I say?"
Is Satan happy when we do absolutely nothing?
How can we look at all this & more & say of man's part it requires nothing?
Watch a baby pulling himself up to learn how to walk, then ask yourself what it took for us to do the same spiritually.
Yes,
Sitting about and having holy thoughts from time to time is not what "believing" or "faith" is all about. It's actively working and doing things that stem from that faith including worship, altruistic endeavors, giving, and charity.
John 6:28-29
Then they said to Him,
"What shall we do,
that we may work the works of God?"
Jesus answered and said to them,
"This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent."
2 Corinthians 6-10
6 Therefore having always confidence, knowing that, while we are in the body, we are absent from the Lord. 7 (For we walk by faith, and not by sight.) 8 But we are confident, and have a good will to be absent rather from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 9 And therefore we labour, whether absent or present, to please him. 10 For we must all be manifested before the judgment seat of Christ, that every one may receive the proper things of the body, according as he hath done, whether it be good or evil.
~
There's a rather humorous scene in Dante's Inferno where these two guys
who knew each other in life are quarreling over who deserves Hell more than
the other; which is pretty silly when it's considered that both are condemned
to the same level down there.
For example: a number of elitist Christians are far more tolerable of dishonesty
than they are of LGBTQ yet both the liar and the carnal deviant are on track for
pretty much the same fate. (Rev 21:8)
_
There's a rather humorous scene in Dante's Inferno where these two guys
who knew each other in life are quarreling over who deserves Hell more than
the other; which is pretty silly when it's considered that both are condemned
to the same level down there.
For example: a number of elitist Christians are far more tolerable of dishonesty
than they are of LGBTQ yet both the liar and the carnal deviant are on track for
pretty much the same fate. (Rev 21:8)
_
Philippians 3:3
For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh
Galatians 6:14
God forbid that i should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ
Would seem like this is a easy answer. Praise GOD some had to yell at us .. which is odd because God never had to, then some verses never answered the question as I read it.
"Can a person get to heaven without them using any effort?" Is this just a play on words? Using "effort" in place of "works"? It can take allot of effort to just have faith in the smallest things but He paid did it all. That faith I have came from Him. To believe came from Him by me hearing His word. It would seem odd.. I did nothing and He alone did it all. On that what comes to mind is the song by Brandon Lake where he says "I've nothing else fit for a king"
"Can a person get to heaven without them using any effort?" Is this just a play on words? Using "effort" in place of "works"? It can take allot of effort to just have faith in the smallest things but He paid did it all. That faith I have came from Him. To believe came from Him by me hearing His word. It would seem odd.. I did nothing and He alone did it all. On that what comes to mind is the song by Brandon Lake where he says "I've nothing else fit for a king"