Praying in Tongues, in the Spirit.

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Aug 12, 2010
2,819
12
0
Aug 12, 2010
2,819
12
0
I believe that some people are overlooking the fact that the Holy Spirit gave them the utterance. It can't be about speaking languages in the church that we know ourselves. When we consider that the Holy Spirit gives the utterance it is something that should be reverenced. You can't tell the Holy Spirit what language to speak. You can't make up standards that the Holy Spirit must meet. The fact that the Bible mentions an interpreter in the Holy Spirit is important, the person giving the tongues speaks as the Spirit gives the utterance and the person who has the gift of interpreting is given the utterance aswell. There is no room to be judging the Holy Spirit.
We're not judging the Holy Spirit...

We're judging the fruit of the charismatics and pentes.

Tell me....Do you have people talking gibberish in church and one man is interpreting?

Can you have two people interpret?

Or is it like.....pairs?
 
Feb 16, 2011
2,957
24
0
We're not judging the Holy Spirit...

We're judging the fruit of the charismatics and pentes.

Tell me....Do you have people talking gibberish in church and one man is interpreting?

Can you have two people interpret?

Or is it like.....pairs?
It's not gibberish; it's a language. More than one person can have the gift of interpretation.
 
C

ChristianIFB

Guest
1 Corinthians 14:18-19 (KJV)
I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: [19] Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

1 Corinthians 13:8-10 (KJV)
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. [9] For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. [10] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

The Perfect is come(Bible canon) and there is no new revelation from God therefore there is no tounges(known languages for the furtherance of Gods Word). Paul said himself he would rather speak 5 words that were understandable than 10,000 words of gibberish. Come on people! Get your Bible out and read it! Quit being pulled drug around by your flesh and false teachers that are so prevalent now days. :)
 
Feb 16, 2011
2,957
24
0
Prove that "that which is perfect" is the Bible and not something else perfect from God. The Bible is not mentioned the whole chapter of 1 Corinthians 13; so where did you add that?
 
C

ChristianIFB

Guest
Psalm 19:7 (KJV)
The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.

Proverbs 11:5 (KJV)
The righteousness of the perfect shall direct his way: but the wicked shall fall by his own wickedness.

Romans 12:1-2 (KJV)
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. [2] And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

1 Corinthians 1:10 (KJV)
Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly
joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

Ephesians 4:11-15 (KJV)
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; [12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: [13] Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: [14] That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; [15] But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

Colossians 1:26-29 (KJV)
Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: [27] To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: [28] Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: [29] Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.

2 Timothy 3:15-17 (KJV)
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. [16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Hebrews 5:9 (KJV)
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

James 1:17-18 (KJV)
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. [18] Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

James 1:25-27 (KJV)
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein , he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. [26] If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. [27] Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
 
Apr 13, 2011
2,229
11
0
C

ChristianIFB

Guest
That guy is wrong too.

Tongues is not "the gift of languages". It is you speaking a language of men or angels that you do not know, the words given by God as you speak.

It is not a "witnessing tool". It is primarily for your personal edification, and when interpreted, to bless the body of believers present.
Can you backup what you just said with Scripture or even a secular dictionary as to the definition of tongues?
 
Dec 19, 2009
27,513
128
0
71
That is your opinion. Scripture plainly says it edifies you spiritually. It also says "I would that ye all spake with tongues". Paul also thanked God that he spoke in tongues more than the Corinthians.

Because you see no value does not mean there is no value.
I think repentance is edifying.
 
Dec 19, 2009
27,513
128
0
71
The bible specifically says
1 Cor 14:4) He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself;
Jude 20) But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,


That's great! But for Christians, speaking in tongues is beneficial.
How does it help?
 
Dec 19, 2009
27,513
128
0
71
Yes, you are guessing.

It's nothing to brag about. Every Christian should be doing it. It should be the norm.
Paul said this:

[27] If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn; and let one interpret.
[28] But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silence in church and speak to himself and to God. 1 Cor 14 27-28 RSV
Repentance is a worthwhile activity.
 
Dec 19, 2009
27,513
128
0
71
Problems don't necessarily disappear.

2 Tim 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

(I'm not picking on you, Res..... Just responding to your posts)
Persecution is not a problem. Going to hell is a problem.
 
Aug 12, 2010
2,819
12
0
That guy is wrong too.

Tongues is not "the gift of languages". It is you speaking a language of men or angels that you do not know, the words given by God as you speak.

It is not a "witnessing tool". It is primarily for your personal edification, and when interpreted, to bless the body of believers present.
there you go with the angels again?

we've already debunked that. angels talk EARTHLY languages.

and since when do we edify ourselves? edification is for OTHERS.
 

Dude653

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2011
12,347
1,045
113
wHEN SOMEONE PRAYS IN TONGUES, it is not for you to understand. It is a direct conversation between him and God.
 
Apr 13, 2011
2,229
11
0
Can you backup what you just said with Scripture or even a secular dictionary as to the definition of tongues?
I Cor 14:4) He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself;

Jude 20) But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

1 Cor 14:17) For thou verily givest thanks well

1 Cor 14:5) I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.