Men are logical; women are emotional
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Modern feminism isn't about making women dominant over men. It basically nowadays is about trying to get rid of forced gender roles for both men and women. People should be able to express themselves in their own way, they shouldn't be forced to confine themselves to a certain rigid and somewhat dated gender role.
While it is very idealistic, you gotta have something to aim for.
While it is very idealistic, you gotta have something to aim for.
No, they obviously have some basis or they wouldn't be there at all. My issue is with society forcing individuals into specific roles. If a person wants to assume the "traditional" societal role for their gender, its their every right to do it. My issue is when they try to force those who may not consider themselves to belong to that gender role back into it. You should be able to express yourself how you want, and not have to keep up a veneer of femininity or masculinity just because you don't want to be looked down upon.
A
well if you continue to live carnally and follow the leadings of your flesh and not of God's Spirit I would say yes there is an impact but male and females have both hormones and the level of testosterone tends to lead the person to aggressive behaviors and the estrogen helps with empathy but those are bodily responses that help with animal survival. God's laws are miracles in themselves because they allow people to break free of those chains and live in a manner that transcends those types of boundaries.......
Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
"they" would be those who follow traditional roles and are hostile to those that don't. Obviously not everyone who has a more traditional role is. There are a number of ways non-binary individuals are "coerced": name-calling, harrasment, even threats or actions of physical violence. For example, one of my friends is an FTM Transexual (meaning that he was born female and is now living as a male). He was assualted by two jocks who threw him against the wall and called him "tranny." I've been called a "dyke" and a "fag" before, among other things.
M
I really don't think that what was said above was meant to belittle anyone; what I got from it was that she was just surprised to find that it wasn't as simple a matter as SHE feels it is, not that others are less intelligent for feeling differently.
Though I'd like to say for the sake of the argument that what you've said here, apocalypse, appears to have a bit more emotion in it than it does logic (NOT A BAD THING OR AN INSULT!)
There's nothing wrong with either thinking logically or feeling things strongly no matter which gender is doing which. But it strikes me as odd that some people are so adamantly against the idea that women DO tend to be more emotional....since there's proof of that.
If a man is driving along and his car breaks down and he can't fix it, what is the likelihood that at ANY point during the minor crisis he will sit behind the steering wheel and cry on the phone to his mom/friend/spouse about it?
POSSIBLE...not really probable.
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she said nothing belittling to you and I doubt she even bothered to ck and see that you are not Christian.
She is just sheltered from people who share your opinions.
I agree there are more fake manmade things people erect between a man and woman's role in society. God made both equal but there are some things that make them very different:
one example is the ability to have babies.
as for approaching situations differently that is isolated to individuals and cultural differences and not so much gender. Gender might be a factor but it not a large contribruter to how people approach a problem.
She is just sheltered from people who share your opinions.
I agree there are more fake manmade things people erect between a man and woman's role in society. God made both equal but there are some things that make them very different:
one example is the ability to have babies.
as for approaching situations differently that is isolated to individuals and cultural differences and not so much gender. Gender might be a factor but it not a large contribruter to how people approach a problem.
I misread her post and I apologize. though I don't see what me not being Christian has to do with anything at all. Aside from the one snarky comment (which I thought was an attack on my person) I tried to be respectful. Sorry if I didn't come off that way.
MissCriss: yes, it is technically emotional. But I'm very passionate about issues such as this. Passion, I thought, was something that all members of the human race had and expressed, regardless of sex. I would never say that expressing ones passion and interest in something is considered part of any gender role at all, it's just a thing that people do.
Most political things don't really have much basis in logic anyway =P Or rather, the "logical basis" comes after the feeling of perceived injustice. I never said that we must always be logical. we should strive to to be balanced. My issue is when people generalize.
MissCriss: yes, it is technically emotional. But I'm very passionate about issues such as this. Passion, I thought, was something that all members of the human race had and expressed, regardless of sex. I would never say that expressing ones passion and interest in something is considered part of any gender role at all, it's just a thing that people do.
Most political things don't really have much basis in logic anyway =P Or rather, the "logical basis" comes after the feeling of perceived injustice. I never said that we must always be logical. we should strive to to be balanced. My issue is when people generalize.
K
Personally, I consider myself emotional rather than logical. I did a test called ''Feeler or Thinker?'' and it said I'm a feeler, and I think that's true. Most of my decissions are influenced 30 % by logic and the rest by feelings ( depends on the situation, but most of the time that's how I work). I don't know if that's because I'm a woman but I don't see nothing wrong with it, sometimes I think you need feelings more than logic, and sometimes I feel the opposite, but I'm just one of that persons that finds an emotional side on almost every situation.
From my experience, I think we all have different doses of logic and emotions, but generally speaking, it seems that women tend to be more emotional than men. That's why most women can talk about feelings, love, puppies, and babies without feeling awkward, like men do.
I do think God has a general purpose for that( roles in the household maybe), but I also think God has a personal purpose for everybody ( your job, your position in church, influence on your relatives, etc). We can't be all the same, men and women, we have a diffl position because of our genres, and a diff position because of our personality( wheter you are a man or a woman). God loves diversity .
From my experience, I think we all have different doses of logic and emotions, but generally speaking, it seems that women tend to be more emotional than men. That's why most women can talk about feelings, love, puppies, and babies without feeling awkward, like men do.
I do think God has a general purpose for that( roles in the household maybe), but I also think God has a personal purpose for everybody ( your job, your position in church, influence on your relatives, etc). We can't be all the same, men and women, we have a diffl position because of our genres, and a diff position because of our personality( wheter you are a man or a woman). God loves diversity .
M
Well if you're talking about active abuse of individuals, then of course I'm with you in that it shouldn't happen.
But as for the wider concept of what is considered normal and right, and there being a certain 'unwritten code' as to how we should behave in society, I have no problem with it. Ultimately, I think individuals should be free (in a political sense) to rock the boat if they must without becoming victims of abuse. But getting back to the roles and expectations of men and women, I welcome a degree of cultural separation between the sexes.
But as for the wider concept of what is considered normal and right, and there being a certain 'unwritten code' as to how we should behave in society, I have no problem with it. Ultimately, I think individuals should be free (in a political sense) to rock the boat if they must without becoming victims of abuse. But getting back to the roles and expectations of men and women, I welcome a degree of cultural separation between the sexes.
Lets look at an analogy right....In the Godhead, The Spirit does only what Jesus and said, and Jesus does only what the Father said; yet non is greater than the other. Some my look at this as the Father being the head and Jesus being greater than the Spirit..But they are one God; one Authority...
It is my OPINION (just looking for your thoughts on the matter) that women and men were created differently; for eg by very design women tend to be more influential and nurturing while men tend to be more decisive ...It doesn't take away the authority but causes they unit to work together more seamlessly
this has no bearing on the individual authority or spirituality, and its not about who cooks and who washes; it about something deeper an innate instinct
LOL... I know all my POWER Girls could drown me for this; but I am praying you understand where I'm coming from, if I'm not explaining properly
It is my OPINION (just looking for your thoughts on the matter) that women and men were created differently; for eg by very design women tend to be more influential and nurturing while men tend to be more decisive ...It doesn't take away the authority but causes they unit to work together more seamlessly
this has no bearing on the individual authority or spirituality, and its not about who cooks and who washes; it about something deeper an innate instinct
LOL... I know all my POWER Girls could drown me for this; but I am praying you understand where I'm coming from, if I'm not explaining properly
M
Here's something to consider; if there were no major differences between men and women, WHY did God create women, then? He could have just made men. He's GOD, he could have made a way for men to reproduce with men (creepy, right?). Anyway, since that's not what happened, what if God put women on this earth right alongside men to...haha... dilute the testosterone levels? Obviously that's not what the Bible says; Eve was created to be Adam's helper. But even so, if women didn't have something (other than physically) very different to offer the world than men do, God still could have left it to be just men.
I still agree that men tend to think more logically and women more emotionally. I also think there are more major differences than just that in how each gender thinks and feels, though I'll have to think some more on that before sharing.
I still agree that men tend to think more logically and women more emotionally. I also think there are more major differences than just that in how each gender thinks and feels, though I'll have to think some more on that before sharing.
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NO NO NO NO. Logic is a skill that needs to be learned. I've taken introduction to logic and am currently taking symbolic logic, and I have a few women in the class right now. In fact I'd say the class is probably majority women. Anyway, women might have a bent to be more emotional, but it isn't necessarily so. The department chair of my major is a woman, and she owns a lot of the males in arguments.
The whole feminist movement of the 60's while in essence had mostly the right idea in actuality has only served to put up more barriers between the sexes It was financed heavily by foundations like The Rockefeller foundation. Those who financed it had very different goals from that of the women struggling for equality. DON'T GET ME WRONG as I said ....I'm an EQUALIST.... not a feminist or a masculinist. It says in the bible when we are judged in the final day that we will be all as brothers and sisters. In other words EQUAL .....
All of our focus.....Men and Women included should be towards God and His Word not upon ourselves and our desires and if this happens VOILA happy life.
peace and love
All of our focus.....Men and Women included should be towards God and His Word not upon ourselves and our desires and if this happens VOILA happy life.
peace and love