What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

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Aaron56

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Edify said:
So many forget the sermon Peter preached in Acts 2, quoting Joel. That prophecy included young & old men, sons & daughters, & male & female servants.
God promised to empower His church & it was on the Day of Pentecost. There is NO scripture saying it will end, meaning the whole church, for God is no respecter of persons.
I can't make anyone believe it, you must believe for yourselves.
With the world as it is now, the church needs all the help it can get.
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Very good point: empowerment.

We have an enemy who has devised schemes against the people of God. Empowerment of the church is required for the advancement of the Kingdom of God. If it were not so, those most versed in logic and reason would be leaders of the church. No. The saints who put into practice what they know to be true in the Lord become the leaders of the church. Leadership is a function of endowment from the Lord and faithfulness to Him in life.

The logicians like to quote "Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that need not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" in an attempt to make studying the Bible or seminary attendance the primary qualifier for church leadership. No. Putting the word of God into practice and being a "study of godly character", as led by the Holy Spirit, is the main qualifier for church leadership. It's like saying "Wow, that fisherman, who has fished for hours without landing a fish, is a study in perseverance."
 
FollowerofShiloh

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Aaron56 said:
Very good point: empowerment.

We have an enemy who has devised schemes against the people of God. Empowerment of the church is required for the advancement of the Kingdom of God. If it were not so, those most versed in logic and reason would be leaders of the church. No. The saints who put into practice what they know to be true in the Lord become the leaders of the church. Leadership is a function of endowment from the Lord and faithfulness to Him in life.

The logicians like to quote "Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that need not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" in an attempt to make studying the Bible or seminary attendance the primary qualifier for church leadership. No. Putting the word of God into practice and being a "study of godly character", as led by the Holy Spirit, is the main qualifier for church leadership. It's like saying "Wow, that fisherman, who has fished for hours without landing a fish, is a study in perseverance."
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Amen and Amen (y)
 
wattie

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Aaron56 said:
Very good point: empowerment.

We have an enemy who has devised schemes against the people of God. Empowerment of the church is required for the advancement of the Kingdom of God. If it were not so, those most versed in logic and reason would be leaders of the church. No. The saints who put into practice what they know to be true in the Lord become the leaders of the church. Leadership is a function of endowment from the Lord and faithfulness to Him in life.

The logicians like to quote "Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that need not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" in an attempt to make studying the Bible or seminary attendance the primary qualifier for church leadership. No. Putting the word of God into practice and being a "study of godly character", as led by the Holy Spirit, is the main qualifier for church leadership. It's like saying "Wow, that fisherman, who has fished for hours without landing a fish, is a study in perseverance."
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Well study of the bible would definitely be a qualifier for church leadership. The rest.. yeah.. you don't need a seminary degree to be a pastor, but led by the Holy Spirit, be faithful to the Word of God. But qualifications for being a pastor are right there in 2 Timothy and other books of the NT.
 
wattie

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Having Jesus as 'that which is perfect'.. or the 'perfect thing' in 1 co 13. And the 'face to face' as Jesus.. doesn't take away from the fact there are no more prophets or apostles.

So before going to the point of what the perfect thing is.. and what 'face to face' means in this passage of 1 co 13.. you've got that fact of apostles and prophets no longer being around.
 
Marilyn

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wattie said:
Having Jesus as 'that which is perfect'.. or the 'perfect thing' in 1 co 13. And the 'face to face' as Jesus.. doesn't take away from the fact there are no more prophets or apostles.

So before going to the point of what the perfect thing is.. and what 'face to face' means in this passage of 1 co 13.. you've got that fact of apostles and prophets no longer being around.
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I was brought up with them and taught of them. And there are still Apostles and prophets today out in the field not swanning it around on utube.
 
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