What do you all think of J.D. Vance?

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Ballaurena

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So my mom and I decided to catch up on the intro speech for Trump's VP pick and were very unimpressed, finding it had little substance. To my surprise, though, most of the comments on YouTube were surprisingly positive. It made me wonder who the audience was on YouTube, and how a survey of Christians would compare.

Please remember to keep it civil. (Talking to myself here. :))
 
JaumeJ

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Not too crazy about Herod nor about Caesar. No politician I know of represents the Kingdom

Politicians are just that, politicians!
 
Cameron143

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What was it he said or did that you didn't care for?
Do you know his background?
Do you know why he was chosen?
 
MsMediator

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His policies seem MAGA. However, if people want someone like Pence, Cruz, or another evangelical, or wish he was "more Christian" they will be dissappointed. He also shed light on hillbilly culture and beliefs, and he is not a good ol boy hillbilly, so I can understand why some people and many in his base may be put off. I was actually surprised that Vance had a bad upbringing, and he speaks with no accent so I was surprised he grew up as a hillbilly. He seems open-minded/tolerant/not racist with personal relationships (married Indian wife, cooks Indian food, named son Vivek), but anyone who marries someone from another culture usually also like that person's culture and food.
 
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MsMediator said:
His policies seem MAGA. However, if people want someone like Pence, Cruz, or another evangelical, or wish he was "more Christian" they will be dissappointed. He also shed light on hillbilly culture and beliefs, and he is not a good ol boy hillbilly, so I can understand why some people and many in his base may be put off. I was actually surprised that Vance had a bad upbringing, and he speaks with no accent so I was surprised he grew up as a hillbilly. He seems open-minded/tolerant/not racist with personal relationships (married Indian wife, cooks Indian food, named son Vivek), but anyone who marries someone from another culture usually also like that person's culture and food.
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It is rather interesting how he has shed his hillbilly ways. :unsure:
 
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HeIsHere said:
It is rather interesting how he has shed his hillbilly ways. :unsure:
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I think it has to do with his terrible childhood and he wanted to get away from it. He also said most people he knew who got out of the hillbilly generational cycle he describes married outsiders (including non hillbilly whites).
 
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Ballaurena said:
So my mom and I decided to catch up on the intro speech for Trump's VP pick and were very unimpressed, finding it had little substance. To my surprise, though, most of the comments on YouTube were surprisingly positive. It made me wonder who the audience was on YouTube, and how a survey of Christians would compare.

Please remember to keep it civil. (Talking to myself here. :))
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No clue and it's not important.
The protagonist of the show is Donald Trump not another Fox pundit.
Trump is on his way to become a national hero and good for him because the leftist's plans have backfired.
 
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Ballaurena said:
So my mom and I decided to catch up on the intro speech for Trump's VP pick and were very unimpressed, finding it had little substance. To my surprise, though, most of the comments on YouTube were surprisingly positive. It made me wonder who the audience was on YouTube, and how a survey of Christians would compare.

Please remember to keep it civil. (Talking to myself here. :))
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Not to sound nasty, but I don't know what you were watching. People were in tears last night. If left me wondering how Christians could find an excuse not to vote for these men.
 
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JaumeJ said:
Not too crazy about Herod nor about Caesar. No politician I know of represents the Kingdom

Politicians are just that, politicians!
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Exactly, they aren't pastors. I don't recall people this upset over Mc Cain and how "Godly" he was or Mitt Romney. I don't recall people thinking they weren't Godly enough to lead the conservative party. Wonder why?
 
Cameron143

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
I don't see how anyone could take issue with what he said. Pretty stunning actually.
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It's the rags-to-riches story that was once part of the American ethos...if you work hard and don't give up you can succeed. We used to have an indomitable spirit in this nation. Parents would tell their children they could be anything the wanted to be, including President of the United States.
The early church saw tribulation as a platform for opportunity. Hardship and difficulty are meant to shape us into the best version of ourselves we can be. Failure is not fatal, it's a stepping stone to our next success. God knows the plans He has for us. Keep banging away folks. It pleases God when we trust Him through adversity.
 
Lynx

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What do I think of him?

I don't. I don't think much about him at all.

Not saying I have a low opinion of him. I just don't bother thinking about him.
 
Ballaurena

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Cameron143 said:
What was it he said or did that you didn't care for?
Do you know his background?
Do you know why he was chosen?
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There was no substance, no insight, no real solutions. I think the spirit of it was very humanistic and had a lot of appeals to the flesh rather than being rooted in humbly walking with God, or even just looking hard for the truth. It felt like his faith was more in Trump and the Republican party than in God.

I had read up on his background. His resume sounds impressive. He said he converted to Catholicism, though it's not clear what from; his family was some type of Protestant. He actually had a Hindu 'blessing' as part of his marriage which shows a concerning lack of discernment. He is said to be in basically the right camps on social issues.

I had read up on potential options and their strengths and weaknesses but didn't know them well enough to keep them all straight. He has clearly been chosen for his youth, working-class upbringing, and similarities to Trump, though there are probably other reasons too. Trump said he would pick someone he thought could really be president. Not living in Florida, Trump's home state also prevented problems that would have existed with other candidates.
 
Ballaurena

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Cameron143 said:
It's the rags-to-riches story that was once part of the American ethos...if you work hard and don't give up you can succeed. We used to have an indomitable spirit in this nation. Parents would tell their children they could be anything the wanted to be, including President of the United States.
The early church saw tribulation as a platform for opportunity. Hardship and difficulty are meant to shape us into the best version of ourselves we can be. Failure is not fatal, it's a stepping stone to our next success. God knows the plans He has for us. Keep banging away folks. It pleases God when we trust Him through adversity.
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Thank you, though, as my mom pointed out, he didn't really get into his background much. I know what you wrote about more from articles I read about him rather than from his own sharing.
 
Ballaurena

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
I don't see how anyone could take issue with what he said. Pretty stunning actually.
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What was it he said that you found stunning? You aren't the only one to have that reaction and I'm curious to understand what hit others that way when my household felt very differently.
 
Ballaurena

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Exactly, they aren't pastors. I don't recall people this upset over Mc Cain and how "Godly" he was or Mitt Romney. I don't recall people thinking they weren't Godly enough to lead the conservative party. Wonder why?
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I do. People feared Romney's Mormonism. I don't know why McCain would be in such a conversation, though, because he wrote a book called Faith of My Fathers, and exemplified godliness in trying to find common ground on both sides, and standing against his own party when his conscience took him there, and not in morally questionable ways. Even if he wasn't my first pick, I respected the man's character.

And FYI, I read George W Bush's biography. One of the reasons I liked him was that a real conversion seemed evident since he was motivated by love and turned around his behavior (a.k.a. repented) of his alcoholism.
 
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