Rufus said:
Biblically incorrect. The will is not an independent, autonomous faculty. The will is located in man's heart and operates in conjunction with man's other three faculties.
I never said the will is an independent autonomous faculty, whatever that means.[/b]
Good! We're making progress since scripture teaches that the hearts of men are full of evil and that the thoughts and intentions are evil continuous, and that men drink evil like water, and that the hearts of men are desperately wicked and deceitful above all else, that there is no moral or spiritual soundness whatsoever in the hearts of men, that men hate God, hate his Son, hate his saints, that they are lovers or money, pleasure, self, the world, the darkness, etc.; therefore, the will of unregnerate man is driven by ALL that is in his dark, wicked heart. His will is driven by all the corrupt, depraved, polluted faculties.
Rufus said:
Of course it does. Take what's going on in the Woke Movement. Men believe they are females simply because they desire to be one, and they reject their biological identity. So my question again is: Just because they desire to be something they are not biologically, does that make them actually be what they are not?
In the case of transgender men thinking they are women, no that does not make them women. However, you would be committing the fallacy of composition to assume that because X is not true in this particular case, X cannot be true in all cases.
I stand by what I said -
i.e. 3. No, voluntary does not mean that a man can become anything he wants. That definition does not make any sense. "Tom gave voluntary service to the poor and homeless, does not mean "Tom can become anything he wants to the poor and homeless."
There is no fallacy because in the example I give of men thinking they are women involves the Law of Identity, which is a law that speaks to what an entity is in its essence. In fact, A is ALWAYS A and CAN NEVER BE B! You lame example fails because service to the poor or homeless in and of itself does not necessarily identify the moral/spiritual essence of the service provider because we don't know the motives behind such service. Whereas, my example does. As does Jer 13:23. And this applies to the entire fallen world. Virtually all the fallen world believes they are either good enough to win God's favor at death; or that a God of immeasurable love wouldn't give two flips either way, since he's so loving he's going to save everyone, anyway; or death ends all consciousness forever, so there's nothing to sweat. But just because these are virtually universal sentiments among the unsaved, doesn't it make it any more so than the guy who thinks he was given the wrong body because he desires to be a woman. Therefore, the will of man has no power to become something that it isn't. Since man is Evil to the core, he has no inherent power to become Good. In order for him to become Good, he would need to be SET FREE from all to which he is in bondage! And only God's supernatural work can set men free.
Do you disagree with what I said?
What do you think?
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