Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

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So how do more tax cuts for the super rich favor regular people?


Trump was the first President since Hoover to leave office having lost more jobs than when he started.


How?


Do you have any support for this claim, or is it your opinion? Because the data clearly shows otherwise.

For example, the Small Business Administration noting that "More Business Applications Filed Under President Biden than Any President in American History".

https://www.sba.gov/article/2024/06...ic-18-million-new-business-applications-filed

The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law authorized more than $5 billion in funding for agriculture, infrastructure and economic development in rural areas.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...mpact-bidenomics-rural-communities-rcna123144


I'm sorry, but without support or citations for those rather extreme claims, I'm not going to just take your word for it.
Just ask some regular Americans on the streets whether they were better under Trump or under the democrats. You don't have to take my word for it, that's the beauty of it, the common people already know. The only ones burying the head in their sand about it are the democrats and those with a corrupt agenda. Which is excellent for us really because it will only make the people trust the agents of evil even less the more they try to lie to the face of the people. As it were, when your enemy is making mistakes, do not correct him.
 

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Just ask some regular Americans on the streets whether they were better under Trump or under the democrats. You don't have to take my word for it, that's the beauty of it, the common people already know. The only ones burying the head in their sand about it are the democrats and those with a corrupt agenda. Which is excellent for us really because it will only make the people trust the agents of evil even less the more they try to lie to the face of the people. As it were, when your enemy is making mistakes, do not correct him.
Gold is $2,542 an ounce, that is a 50% rise since Biden took office, so for those who have gold he has been very good for them.

Lockheed Martin is up 68% since Biden took office. For the military industrial complex Biden has been very good to them.
 
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People going back to work after being forced out of their job by State Governors (not Trump) is not "creating jobs" as Biden likes to say.
As I noted, under President Biden America not only re-gained all the jobs lost under Trump, but added an additional 6+ million jobs.
 
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Just ask some regular Americans on the streets whether they were better under Trump or under the democrats.
I have, and a lot of people don't want to go back to the Trump days. That's probably one of the reasons why the Dems are leading in the polls.
 
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I have, and a lot of people don't want to go back to the Trump days. That's probably one of the reasons why the Dems are leading in the polls.
Well again you should try to ask the actual common people like in real life, not in your echo chamber. Most of them want Trump back because the democrats have either gone too far into their extreme evil, the position of those that care about Christianity generally. Or they want Trump back just very simply because life was better under Trump than it was under the democrats by leaps and bounds. This is why Trump has been leading significantly in the polls all year and still is leading in the polls even despite the tendency to overestimate democrats and media bias, which if we factor that in then his lead is even bigger. This might explain why the democrats are going to great lengths lately to gaslight people so much but I welcome this actually since I believe that it will only serve to energize the good guys to not take the election for granted and ensure they get out to vote for Trump, and also serve to remind the fence-sitters of all the democrats' lies and mismanagement.
 

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As I noted, under President Biden America not only re-gained all the jobs lost under Trump, but added an additional 6+ million jobs.
You gave credit to Biden and blame to Trump for the others. You don't get to hide it under "6 million more." The unemployment rate is approaching 5% now, so many of those have lost those jobs. Inflation has driven prices up 40% under Biden. Home purchases are out of reach now for most Americans with the high interest rates. I could go on and on.
 
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You gave credit to Biden and blame to Trump for the others.
I just cited what happened under their respective terms.

You don't get to hide it under "6 million more."
Except it's the truth. One does not hide things behind truth, one hides from the truth.

The unemployment rate is approaching 5% now, so many of those have lost those jobs.
Actually, much of it is expansion of the labor force. And it's certainly a lot better than the 14.7% during Trump's term.

Inflation has driven prices up 40% under Biden. Home purchases are out of reach now for most Americans with the high interest rates. I could go on and on.
Again, post-pandemic inflation was a global phenomenon, with the US faring much, much better than most of the rest of the world.
 

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As I noted, under President Biden America not only re-gained all the jobs lost under Trump, but added an additional 6+ million jobs.

NBC News reports Kamala Harris has proposed raising corporate tax rate to 28%
 

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You gave credit to Biden and blame to Trump for the others. You don't get to hide it under "6 million more." The unemployment rate is approaching 5% now, so many of those have lost those jobs. Inflation has driven prices up 40% under Biden. Home purchases are out of reach now for most Americans with the high interest rates. I could go on and on.
Every Twitter man on the street interview says the same thing:
Economic life was FAR better under Trump. And they will be voting for Trump.
 

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Again, post-pandemic inflation was a global phenomenon, with the US faring much, much better than most of the rest of the world.
Now you're just lying. Many countries stayed in the 3%-4% inflation range during and after Covid. The US did *not* fare as well as many others.
 
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I just cited what happened under their respective terms.


Except it's the truth. One does not hide things behind truth, one hides from the truth.


Actually, much of it is expansion of the labor force. And it's certainly a lot better than the 14.7% during Trump's term.


Again, post-pandemic inflation was a global phenomenon, with the US faring much, much better than most of the rest of the world.
https://taxfoundation.org/blog/kamala-harris-tax-proposals-2024/

In all, Tax Foundation estimates the major tax increase proposals in the Biden-Harris FY 2025 budget would reduce economic output by 1.6 percent and employment by 666,000 full-time jobs. If Harris took the tax increases further, as she has supported in the past, the economic losses would be even larger.

What about the $400,000 Pledge?
President Biden has consistently pledged that he would not raise taxes on households earning under $400,000, which dates to his 2020 campaign. The pledge heavily guided the design of Biden’s tax proposals in his annual budgets, the Build Back Better Act in Congress, and the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) signed into law in 2022.

While Harris has made supportive comments about the $400,000 pledge as running mate and Vice President, her elevation to Democratic nominee is an opportunity to rethink the tax pledge.
 
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https://taxfoundation.org/blog/kamala-harris-tax-proposals-2024/

In all, Tax Foundation estimates the major tax increase proposals in the Biden-Harris FY 2025 budget would reduce economic output by 1.6 percent and employment by 666,000 full-time jobs. If Harris took the tax increases further, as she has supported in the past, the economic losses would be even larger.

What about the $400,000 Pledge?
President Biden has consistently pledged that he would not raise taxes on households earning under $400,000, which dates to his 2020 campaign. The pledge heavily guided the design of Biden’s tax proposals in his annual budgets, the Build Back Better Act in Congress, and the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) signed into law in 2022.

While Harris has made supportive comments about the $400,000 pledge as running mate and Vice President, her elevation to Democratic nominee is an opportunity to rethink the tax pledge.
Not surprising to see a pro-corporation organization say raising taxes on mega corporations that are raking in record profits is bad.

But if you think one of the main problems in this country is that multi-billion dollar corporations pay too much taxes, we'll just have to disagreel
 

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Turn about is fair play and RA won't see this anyway. For the life of me I look at the mess the country is in and can't understand why anyone would not vote, or vote other than conservative, now that everything has been fully revealed about Biden's health. Other than just flat out hate for Trump, which I don't understand either, why would you sit back and watch this dumpster fire instead of helping us put it out?? I don't understand the apathy. I don't even have children, and if I had it would be an even bigger reason to make sure I voted the Marxists out in 2024. What is the lack of concern with Christians, this apathy? Can someone calmly explain why we should risk a Biden/Harris four years?
I'm a Republican - straight ticket. No way in hell that I would consider casting a vote for a baby killing Democrat. Yeah, Kamala is a Commie through and through. If she somehow wins this country is going down the toilet.