How Much Time, Effort, and Money Do We Put Into a Body That's Dying Anyway? (Replacing a Tooth?) All Are Welcome to Answer.

[cinder]

I'm certainly not someone special or important -- just your average everyday sinner -- but for whatever reason, Judas' words have alway stuck with me my entire life -- "Couldn't this money be used to help others, rather than to feed my own vanity?" And it's something I contemplate through many of my own self-care decisions.

You do realize that Judas was the bad guy in that story right? Not that lots of christians don't adopt the same pharisaical attitude, but it's probably good to remember that God gives good gifts and when he was laying down the law he only asked for 10 percent and to not take advantage of the poor and needy. So if you can confidently say that you're giving and not taking advantage of people then enjoy the rest, just don't use it in a way that dishonors God.

The only other thought I have on this thread is that when I lose all my teeth I'm gonna enjoy copious amounts of ice cream, milkshakes, and biscuits and gravy.

 

[RodB651]

he said women need to be "picky" in order to hold men to a moral standard they might not adhere to otherwise. The upshot of it was that it forces men to want to be better versions of themselves. More mature and responsible. Not boys refusing to grow up...

I have two daughters and I agree with this.

 

[Mem]

I love Jordan Peterson. I think he is a very brilliant man. I may have seen the video you mention here, or a similar one where he spoke of women's preferences when it comes to choosing a mate. Though I seem to be remembering it differently, because what I recall is that he said women need to be "picky" in order to hold men to a moral standard they might not adhere to otherwise. The upshot of it was that it forces men to want to be better versions of themselves. More mature and responsible. Not boys refusing to grow up...

It must be a different one. This was speaking to the continual degradation of men, i.e. their inadequacy to meet up to any woman's (fanciful) standard.

 

[seoulsearch]

You do realize that Judas was the bad guy in that story right? Not that lots of christians don't adopt the same pharisaical attitude, but it's probably good to remember that God gives good gifts and when he was laying down the law he only asked for 10 percent and to not take advantage of the poor and needy. So if you can confidently say that you're giving and not taking advantage of people then enjoy the rest, just don't use it in a way that dishonors God.

The only other thought I have on this thread is that when I lose all my teeth I'm gonna enjoy copious amounts of ice cream, milkshakes, and biscuits and gravy.

Yes, I know Judas was the bad guy of the story, but even bad guys can make salient points. In fact, sometimes we remember something very specifically because it was the bad guy who said it.

It's interesting to note that the Bible makes it clear in John 12:6 that Judas wasn't criticizing the use of the expensive perfume because he cared about the poor, but because he controlled the group's money, and planned to steal from it.

This is another reason why his criticism has stuck with me -- it presents all sides of the dice.

I always took the question, "Why wasn't this (expensive perfume) sold and the money given to the poor intead?" as having several lessons:

1. Just the question taken at face value, translated as, "Can this money be used of something more worthy to the kingdom?" when asked sincerely, is important for us to ask our own selves.

2. If asked self-righteously, it's a double reminder of whether we are just criticizing how someone else spent their money (is God saying we have a right to do that,) and/or, are we just putting on a good show for an audience?

3. Ande ven if it's not just to look good to others, it's a blatant reminder to ask God to keep our own hearts in check: Do we really care about doing something good out in service to God or do we just like patting ourselves on the back, even just in private?

 

[seoulsearch]

I don't agree with that. That's what a lot of the poor in third world countries do. When they get down to not so many teeth, they try to get the rest pulled if they can. You can turn just about anything to mush so you can easily get a nutritional diet. Of course the poor in third world countries often don't get a nutritional diet, but they don't slowly starve, either, at least not in most cases.

@Tall_Timbers,

I saw your post a while back in another thread about your work in the overseas mission field regarding dental work and was very intrigued.

If you'd be willing, I would love to hear about it, whether here or in another thread.

Or if you'd feel more comfortable mentioning it in say, a thread dedicated to people talking about their experiences in missions, service to the Lord, etc., just let me know and I'd be happy to write one.

I know it might not be something you'd want to share publicly and I completely understand. But if it's something you'd be ok with talking about, feel free to let me know here in this thread or in a message on my profile page.

Thank you!

 

[Magenta]

It must be a different one. This was speaking to the continual degradation of men, i.e. their inadequacy to meet up to any woman's (fanciful) standard.

No doubt our esteemed Jordan Peterson has done many talks around the same subject from different perspectives, as he was a clinical psychologist for many decades counseling countless young men on various issues... I do wonder now what his advice to incels might have been. With apologies to our dear sister Seoulsearch..

 

[seoulsearch]

No doubt our esteemed Jordan Peterson has done many talks around the same subject from different perspectives, as he was a clinical psychologist for many decades counseling countless young men on various issues... I do wonder now what his advice to incels might have been. With apologies to our dear sister Seoulsearch..

And now I wonder if Lady Magenta was hinting that I'm an incel -- and then apologizing.

Just kidding!

We ALL know I actually AM an incel, and no amount of apologizing can ever fix that!

No worries, Lady Magenta. These threads are all about going down rabbit trails! And the added information might be helping others as well.

 

[Magenta]

And now I wonder if Lady Magenta was hinting that I'm an incel -- and then apologizing.

Just kidding!

We ALL know I actually AM an incel, and no amount of apologizing can ever fix that!

No worries, Lady Magenta. These threads are all about going down rabbit trails! And the added information might be helping others as well.

Ah!!! Eh??? Oh oh oh!!! LOL!!!

I suppose I should have articulated/stipulated male incels!

 

[seoulsearch]

Ah!!! Eh??? Oh oh oh!!! LOL!!! I suppose I should have articulated/stipulated male incels!

Yes, because we all know that males are incels.

I'm obviously an incel-lette.

 

[Tall_Timbers]

If you'd be willing, I would love to hear about it, whether here or in another thread.

I could probably do that. Not right now, but I'll think on it.

 

[Magenta]

Yes, because we all know that males are incels.

I'm obviously an incel-lette.

My time for edit ran out before I could apologize for derailing your thread, but you know, I never considered before that incels could be anything but male and so I must apologize for that also! BUT having said that, having looked it up, I do see that incels are usually described as mysogynists, so that does apply to men... doesn't it?

I also found an article by somebody with the last name of Tolentino who said, in America, to be poor, or black, or fat, or trans, or native, or old, or disabled, or undocumented among other things, is usually to have become acquainted with unwantedness, but none of these people ever felt that because they were outside the sexual marketplace they were ever owed sex. Incels are the result of a violent misogyny, one that has little to do with sex and almost everything to do with power. Another site says incels are part of a fringe online subculture that trades in misogyny, victimhood, and fatalism although they do go on to say that only a tiny minority of incels commit acts of incel inspired terrorism. Oy. How did we get from teeth to this???

 

[Kireina]

I do take care of my teeth because my teeth was the reason why I struggled with low self-esteem when I was younger. I spent more than a thousand dollars to make my teeth a lil better lol and thinking of my teeth falling off due to old age quite a lil hard for me but it will come I am trying to prepare myself slowly .
For now,I am keeping them by visiting a dentist for a lil cleaning regularly. It would mean I would spend a lil more for my teeth ☺️

I am grateful to God that He hasn't put me in a situation yet to decide whether to do my teeth first or help someone however if that time comes/happens I think helping the person in need is a beautiful choice ...☺️

So,to answer your questions...It depends on my situation...if I can afford it, I will definitely do my tooth/teeth. Have it done 😊 Regardless my age,regardless if it is in front,back or hidden,I am single,looking or not, married or old, as long as it is not choosing between my teeth and helping someone who's really in need.... 😊

Taking care of your body or your appearance...trying to look good is not vanity but being obsessed or admiring too much of your appearance I think that's vanity.
Andddd being content and happy without teeth? that's a good thing hehehe I love that 😅

 

[Mem]

No doubt our esteemed Jordan Peterson has done many talks around the same subject from different perspectives, as he was a clinical psychologist for many decades counseling countless young men on various issues... I do wonder now what his advice to incels might have been. With apologies to our dear sister Seoulsearch..

This is the first I've ever heard of the term "incel" and am reluctant to look it up for concern that AI will send me a flood of suggestions for view. Nevertheless, I'm fairly certain that there isn't a demographic that doesn't have its specific psychological quirks among them.

 

[Lynx]

This is the first I've ever heard of the term "incel" and am reluctant to look it up for concern that AI will send me a flood of suggestions for view. Nevertheless, I'm fairly certain that there isn't a demographic that doesn't have its specific psychological quirks among them.

INCEL - INvoluntary CELibate, guys who can't find a girl who will have sex with them. So they get real mad at girls and start talking bad about them. Basically the romance version of sour grapes.

With the internet age they can also find lots of other incels and all get mad at girls together. So these days they, like all other groups, can get a good confirmation bias going.

 

[seoulsearch]

INCEL - INvoluntary CELibate, guys who can't find a girl who will have sex with them. So they get real mad at girls and start talking bad about them. Basically the romance version of sour grapes.

With the internet age they can also find lots of other incels and all get mad at girls together. So these days they, like all other groups, can get a good confirmation bias going.

Wow, am I ever behind the times.

Here I thought an incel was just a regular garden variety rebel. 😳

Well, count me out from being the female variety then.

My single status is a choice, and I find plenty of other things to get mad about other than just boys. 😬

 

[Lynx]

Wow, am I ever behind the times.

Here I thought an incel was just a regular garden variety rebel. 😳

Well, count me out from being the female variety then.

My single status is a choice, and I find plenty of other things to get mad about other than just boys. 😬

Incels ARE just garden variety rebels. The name is just their backstory, their excuse for being crabby. Gotta have a good excuse for being crabby. Republicans crab about Democrats, Democrats crab about Republicans and Christians, conspiracy theorists crab about the guv'mint... All crabby people need an enemy to crab about. Incels picked women, and slapped the "They won't have sex with me!" excuse on it. But aside from their chosen target, they are just like all other grumps.