I was merely pointing out that in Bible God does not seem to have made provision for the redemption of angels.Who knows. Who knows if Angels can repent. I don't know.
But I do know that fallen angels have free will. And so do the holy angels.
I was merely pointing out that in Bible God does not seem to have made provision for the redemption of angels.Who knows. Who knows if Angels can repent. I don't know.
But I do know that fallen angels have free will. And so do the holy angels.
This is what the Bible tells us....
And this is my prayer: that your love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight. Philippians 1:9
Insight must be unveiled by grace.. by means of gaining more and more knowledge from God's Word.
Which causes the love of God to abound in believers who are fortunate to be able to fight the good fight well.
grace and peace ...............
Physical life vs resurrection lifeGood stuff. But death is more than just separation. Like many biblical concepts,there are multiple aspects to it. For example, the body of Christ is referred to as a body, a building, a bride, and more. Each description confirms the others, as well as adds to and informs the reality of a relationship with Christ. Death, biblically, also has a broader scope for me.
of course, we overcome because of him. But when we fail it is not his fault.‘and taking no credit in overcoming, see it not as you overcoming, God who overcame< John 16:33
I think that you will agree that these "additional aspects" have to do with the devastating after effects and/or symptomsGood stuff. But death is more than just separation. Like many biblical concepts,there are multiple aspects to it. For example, the body of Christ is referred to as a body, a building, a bride, and more. Each description confirms the others, as well as adds to and informs the reality of a relationship with Christ. Death, biblically, also has a broader scope for me.
of course, we overcome because of him. But when we fail it is not his fault.
of course, we overcome because of him. But when we fail it is not his fault.
You stated in the post: "Their problem was not because they had been created with a fallen nature."
The implication of this sentence is - That we were created with a fallen nature. Just saying. But I except your correction and agree with it.
What you are not putting together is that angels were never born.You stated in the post: "Their problem was not because they had been created with a fallen nature."
The implication of this sentence is - That we were created with a fallen nature. Just saying. But I except your correction and agree with it.
Separation has different aspects as well. Separation can mean apart from; that is, there is some sort of distance between. But separation can also mean not a part of, even when no distance exists.I think that you will agree that these "additional aspects" have to do with the devastating after effects and/or symptoms
of the "separation" phenomenon itself that preceded them.
Being spiritually dead doesn't mean we have no spirit. It means the spiritual aspect of man has been corrupted..
Not created, born fallen. Go back and read what I said.
Separation has different aspects as well. Separation can mean apart from; that is, there is some sort of distance between. But separation can also mean not a part of, even when no distance exists.
Within any congregation or church will be a mixture of those both truly in Christ and those who only possess an outward profession. This is no different from OT Israel, where not all of Israel were actually the Israel of God. The later was generally only a remnant. The separation isn't one of proximity, but position. They could still partake in the life of the community and the blessings God bestows, yet still have no spiritual connection to God.
OH GOD! Have MERCY!
See above.Spiritually dead = dead to all things spiritual. Dead to God.
But Jesus told him, “Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.” Mat 8:22
Humans are not born with a human spirit. That is why we read the following.
Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.” “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’John 3:3-7
If you can not grasp this concept, I am sorry...
I read this twice. I have no idea what your point is.God knowing who is who and what is what, thank you to rest in trust to God to bring in all that will believe God willingly, just like Jesus went to that cross willingly, without a flesh fight at all, amazing to see that and be that from God giving that to us to love all, seeing an enemy hungry, feeding them, as Jesus once risen showed up to Peter and asked Peter three times do you love me, Peter said you know I do Lord, then feed my sheep. Father sent Son to save the lost, those that are already reckoned righteous do not need a sheep, they have the sheep, Jesus said he did not come to save the righteous ones (those considered righteous by God Father), the, lost ones
First you said Job and sinning like Israel and I showed you that you were wrong. Now you brought up Job 40, long after he lost everything. Had you been in place of Job you too would have been contending with the Almighty. Think about it carefully. And Job's reply pertained to only this matter.I think not.....
And yes, Job CONFESSED and repented of his sin of "contending" with the Almighty aka putting God on trial.
No not really. The contrary actually.First you said Job and sinning like Israel and I showed you that you were wrong.
Thank you...See above.
I realize there are those here who are the only ones who know anything and others who misrepresent other people's posts and then ascribe misunderstanding to them, but you alone seem to have mastered both.