Purgatory, Catholic Bible vs Protestant Bible
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Here is a not so subtle revision from the Catholic Bible, New King James version (Protestant Bible). Hint: Compare the second commandment.
[Dan 7:25 KJV] 25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
- You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments
[Dan 7:25 KJV] 25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
The message of Salvation in the Orthodox Church is the theology of Theosis which is a non-static co-operative relationship with God and only God knows if we are going to be with Him or away from Him on judgment day.
Some light reading here:
https://www.episcopalchurch.org/glossary/theosis/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosis_(Eastern_Christian_theology)
https://www.tgoc.ut.goarch.org/spirituality.htm
https://www.gotquestions.org/theosis.html
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/...as-theosis-the-teaching-of-eastern-orthodoxy/
Some light reading here:
https://www.episcopalchurch.org/glossary/theosis/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosis_(Eastern_Christian_theology)
https://www.tgoc.ut.goarch.org/spirituality.htm
https://www.gotquestions.org/theosis.html
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/...as-theosis-the-teaching-of-eastern-orthodoxy/
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Not a problem for Protestants as they reject the authority of the Catholic Church to determine any doctrine concerning Christianity. It is a worldly religion created by a Satanic blending of the gospel truth with paganism in order to rule the world. Would you drink a glass of pure water if only a little bit of arsenic was added?
The Apocrypha was decreed to be canonical at the Council of Trent in 1546.
Protestants reject the Apocrypha for several reasons, including:
Different doctrine: The Apocrypha has different practices and doctrine than the Holy Scripture. Some of the teachings in the Apocrypha are considered unbiblical and heretical.
Not cited in the New Testament: The Apocrypha is never cited as Scripture in the New Testament.
Not recognized by the Jews: The Jews have always rejected the Apocrypha as Scripture.
Not written by a recognized prophet: The Apocrypha was not written by a recognized prophet.
Written in a later period: Many of the Apocryphal books were written in the second or third century.
Desire to go back to the sources: Protestants want to use the same books that the Jews decided upon.
Jesus never quoted an Apocryphal text: Jesus cited Old Testament texts many times in his teachings, but never quoted an Apocryphal text.
The Apocrypha was decreed to be canonical at the Council of Trent in 1546.
Protestants reject the Apocrypha for several reasons, including:
Different doctrine: The Apocrypha has different practices and doctrine than the Holy Scripture. Some of the teachings in the Apocrypha are considered unbiblical and heretical.
Not cited in the New Testament: The Apocrypha is never cited as Scripture in the New Testament.
Not recognized by the Jews: The Jews have always rejected the Apocrypha as Scripture.
Not written by a recognized prophet: The Apocrypha was not written by a recognized prophet.
Written in a later period: Many of the Apocryphal books were written in the second or third century.
Desire to go back to the sources: Protestants want to use the same books that the Jews decided upon.
Jesus never quoted an Apocryphal text: Jesus cited Old Testament texts many times in his teachings, but never quoted an Apocryphal text.
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the canon of scripture has been the canon since probably about 150AD, well before there was any such thing as a pope ((6-700AD and absolutely no one outside of Rome thought it was legitimate, ever))
there haven't ever been any changes or serious challenges to the canon of scripture. only a few modern fringe liberals who need some reason to sell a book or promote a YouTube channel.
there haven't ever been any changes or serious challenges to the canon of scripture. only a few modern fringe liberals who need some reason to sell a book or promote a YouTube channel.
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I would not go so far as to say the Catholic church was "Spirit" led back then or even now for that matter. Why would the Spirit of God lead its leaders to kill and torture innocent lives for a myriad of reasons they chose to say they were doing such horrible acts "in the name of God" The Spirit of God I truly do not believe would lead nor sanction such atrocities.
It's not really that bold of a move as some might think or claim. Like posthuman says here it's more a case of they simply formalized the protocanon, or the hard canon books which indeed have always been the protocanon since the very beginning of Christianity, rather than outright removed the deuterocanon. The deuterocanon is interesting and it is of some merit and potential since it often has true historical information or is culturally relevant, but at the same time the deuterocanon is not as hard confirmed as the protocanon. That said when it comes to Purgatory, it's not in the deuterocanon either so it is basically a moot point really.
That is another Catholic falsehood, by the way. 
There are nowhere near that many denominations of Christianity.
That is a terrible miscalculation based on a lack of understanding perpetuated by, um, well, a dearth of knowledge.
Many sources say many things and many of those things are blatant falsehoods .
I have posted this before so am simply copy/pasting from an earlier post:
45,000 thousand: that is a false number based on an egregious misunderstanding.
That misunderstanding gets thrown around as if it were truth when it is not.
Even under the most liberal definition of what constitutes a denomination, there are
nowhere close to 33,000 - 45,000 denominations. Many of these groups are merely subgroups
of larger denominational groups such as Presbyterians, Methodists, Lutherans, or Baptists.
Evangelical apologist Eric Svendsen exposes the falsehood of this fabrication. Briefly:
Svendsen shows that the source of this figure is the World Christian Encyclopedia (David A. Barrett; Oxford
University Press, 1982). Barrett cites a figure of 20,780 denominations. Still, not all of them are Protestants.
According to Barrett, Protestants account for 8,196 (and incidentally, Roman Catholics account for 223).
However, even this figure of eight thousand Protestant denominations is misleading, for Barrett defines
"distinct denominations" as any group that might have a slightly different emphasis than another group.
The distinction is made on the basis of jurisdiction, rather than differing beliefs and practices.
Barrett breaks down the Protestant bloc into twenty-one major "traditions" which are much closer to what we usually
mean by the word "denominations." It is interesting that Roman Catholics are subdivided into sixteen such "traditions."
Svendsen concludes, "In short, Roman Catholic apologists have hurriedly, carelessly - and, as a result, irresponsibly - glanced
at Barrett's work, found a large number (22,189), and arrived at all sorts of absurdities that Barrett never concluded." source
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It's not all that unusual for an established Christian organization to go off the
rails.
For example according to Col 2:1-2 and Col 4:13-16; the Laodicean
Christians were at one time solid believers. But between the time of Paul's
writing his letter to the Colossians, and John writing the 3rd chapter of
Revelation, the congregation meeting in Nymphas' home somehow went
dark. It was still Christian in name, yes; but it was off on its own, not all that
interested in how Jesus felt about their progress.
The Laodicean church had all the trappings of a Christian church; except for
one salient feature: the Christ of Christianity wasn't even a member let
alone the captain of its industry. It was literally a christless church. He's
depicted outside the building banging on the door trying to get somebody's
attention to let him in.
Pont being: its seniority should never be assumed an eo ipso guarantee that
a particular belief system is valid; because even as far back as when the
apostles were still alive, even in their own day, card-carrying Christians were
already starting apostate movements. (e.g. Gal 1:6-9, 2Tim 2:15-18, 1John
2:18-19, Jud 1:17-19)
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It's not all that unusual for an established Christian organization to go off the
rails.
For example according to Col 2:1-2 and Col 4:13-16; the Laodicean
Christians were at one time solid believers. But between the time of Paul's
writing his letter to the Colossians, and John writing the 3rd chapter of
Revelation, the congregation meeting in Nymphas' home somehow went
dark. It was still Christian in name, yes; but it was off on its own, not all that
interested in how Jesus felt about their progress.
The Laodicean church had all the trappings of a Christian church; except for
one salient feature: the Christ of Christianity wasn't even a member let
alone the captain of its industry. It was literally a christless church. He's
depicted outside the building banging on the door trying to get somebody's
attention to let him in.
Pont being: its seniority should never be assumed an eo ipso guarantee that
a particular belief system is valid; because even as far back as when the
apostles were still alive, even in their own day, card-carrying Christians were
already starting apostate movements. (e.g. Gal 1:6-9, 2Tim 2:15-18, 1John
2:18-19, Jud 1:17-19)
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OK, so basically you can pray earnestly to Jesus, but its a fake Jesus... (Mormons) even thought you think its real and by earthly standards you are screwed. Same for Jehovahs Witness..... you are earnestly praying to the father, and you are 100% more sincere than anyone on this board, you are still screwed. And even today, you can follow a prosperity preacher and same Jesus in name but a different gospel.
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