Im new here. I need some help regarding 1 Corinth 11:14

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Magenta

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Do not be conformed to this world,[c] but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

"Do not be conformed to this world" sounds like it's telling us to do the opposite and not concern ourselves with cultural/social norms.

Romans 12:2
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USA, Indiana, Elkhart, Goshen.
Do not be conformed to this world,[c] but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

"Do not be conformed to this world" sounds like it's telling us to do the opposite and not concern ourselves with cultural/social norms.
I would disagree. We shall not concern ourselves with the sins of the world? We must be in the world but not of it, yes? We must concern ourselves with social and cultural norms! The norms of the culture will be to sin, and sin is a serious thing. We should not be conformed to the world. If we concern ourselves with the problems of the world, it doesn't mean we are being conformed to it. Also, is goes to say to rather be transformed by the renewal of your mind. So instead of being conformed to the world, instead be conformed to the image of Christ!
 
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Jesus said to give to caesar the things that are caesar's, and the things that are God's to God. Uncle Sam says he wants Americans to vote, so give to caesar what is his, but pray when you do so to make both caesar and God happy.
 
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Jesus said to give to caesar the things that are caesar's, and the things that are God's to God. Uncle Sam says he wants Americans to vote, so give to caesar what is his, but pray when you do so to make both caesar and God happy.
Oops I thought I was on the voting thread lol
 

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See my comment at the bottom.


No, Samson was a Nazarite. Read more carefully.


Nazarene, not Nazarite. Different completely.


Wow. Since you didn't read carefully enough, and conflated two unrelated concepts, you're left with nothing but a tangle and no argument at all.

When you don't understand the basic text, you can't claim to have divine insights about it and remain credible.
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When we say Jesus of Nazareth. It is very clear in man's understanding that Jesus lives in a town called Nazareth. This place can be seen or in Literal word.
But what Jesus taught to Paul is the Thing That Can't Be Seen or Spiritual Word (2 COR 4:18)( 2 COR 3:6).
Therefore what God's means for Jesus of Nazareth is in Spiritual word and not in Literal word.

The Spiritual meaning of Jesus of Nazareth is same as Samson as Nazarite UNTO GOD FROM THE WOMB.

The child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb
 

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When we say Jesus of Nazareth. It is very clear in man's understanding that Jesus lives in a town called Nazareth. This place can be seen or in Literal word.
But what Jesus taught to Paul is the Thing That Can't Be Seen or Spiritual Word (2 COR 4:18)( 2 COR 3:6).
Therefore what God's means for Jesus of Nazareth is in Spiritual word and not in Literal word.

The Spiritual meaning of Jesus of Nazareth is same as Samson as Nazarite UNTO GOD FROM THE WOMB.

The child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb
Streeeeeeeetch.

No.

Stop with your silly, baseless "spiritual meaning" blather and stick to the plain text. You're so far off base that you're in the next county.
 

timemeddler

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I would disagree. We shall not concern ourselves with the sins of the world? We must be in the world but not of it, yes? We must concern ourselves with social and cultural norms! The norms of the culture will be to sin, and sin is a serious thing. We should not be conformed to the world. If we concern ourselves with the problems of the world, it doesn't mean we are being conformed to it. Also, is goes to say to rather be transformed by the renewal of your mind. So instead of being conformed to the world, instead be conformed to the image of Christ!
I guess I'm thinking in the sense of of not being bound to cultural norms, in the way monks in the middle ages were, they had a slightly different style of dress than most people and definitely had a different hairstyle that wasn't typical of the common population, but they still maintained a relationship with the public.
 

Godsgood

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It is really very difficult to accept the Truth.
And Jesus taught it to Paul and Paul wrote it.

HEBREW 4:12
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For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Then What is The Truth?

The Truth is God The Father is speaking in Parables.
PSALMS 78:2
2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:

And The Lord Jesus Christ is Speaking in Parables too.
MARK 4:34
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But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

Example is TEMPLE:
Man's Understanding are the Churches, Chapels & Cathedrals
For Jesus is his Body.
JOHN 2:19-21
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Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

1 CORINTIANS 11:14 is a Parable too and it requires revelation from Jesus to understand the meaning as he did to his disciples in Mark 4:34. And Jesus did it to us but it is difficult to accept.
when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

Those who doesn't humble themselves they are the Natural Man who are depending in Man's Understanding.
1 CORINTHIANS 2:14
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But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

But those who humble themselves are the Spiritual Man are relying in Jesus Revelation.
1 CORINTHIANS 2:13
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
 

GWH

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Dressing like JtB might be more indicative of not caring about such things as fashion or what others think...
Perhaps 1CR 10:23-24 & 29b are applicable: "Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial--not everything is constructive. Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others... Why should my freedom be judged by another's conscience?"

Harmonizing these rather contradictory statements of Paul is a rather fine line?
 
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It is really very difficult to accept the Truth.
And Jesus taught it to Paul and Paul wrote it.

HEBREW 4:12
12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Then What is The Truth?

The Truth is God The Father is speaking in Parables.
PSALMS 78:2
2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:

And The Lord Jesus Christ is Speaking in Parables too.
MARK 4:34
34
But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

Example is TEMPLE:
Man's Understanding are the Churches, Chapels & Cathedrals
For Jesus is his Body.
JOHN 2:19-21
19
Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

1 CORINTIANS 11:14 is a Parable too and it requires revelation from Jesus to understand the meaning as he did to his disciples in Mark 4:34. And Jesus did it to us but it is difficult to accept.
when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

Those who doesn't humble themselves they are the Natural Man who are depending in Man's Understanding.
1 CORINTHIANS 2:14
14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

But those who humble themselves are the Spiritual Man are relying in Jesus Revelation.
1 CORINTHIANS 2:13
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
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What we are sharing in this bible discussion group is the Truth according to God's words and not after what Man wants.
Because The Truth will save us.
JOHN 8:31-32
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So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

And The Truth is the nourishments of the soul.
Since our soul can't be seen that is why the message or revelation of God in his words are can't be seen also.