Baptism should accompany confessions of faith
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What I'd like to know is if baptism isn't an integral part of the gospel, why was it treated as such among all the New Testament believers? There's really only one thing that can account for it not being counted as an integral part of the gospel: human theology becoming more important than God's word and the Holy Spirit.
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Well I have never heard it.. But as with all groups. There are extremists.. We should not attack a whole group because of a few extremists..
I mean think about it. Many churches in order to fight licentiousness preach legalism, and many churches in order to fight legalism promote licentiousness.
The best thing in my view would be to come in the middle. And just preach grace and truth
We are saved By grace period. Through faith and not works.
But those who are saved are created for good works..
Paul taught salvation by Grace alone through Faith alone. But that those who are saved will do good works..
I mean think about it. Many churches in order to fight licentiousness preach legalism, and many churches in order to fight legalism promote licentiousness.
The best thing in my view would be to come in the middle. And just preach grace and truth
We are saved By grace period. Through faith and not works.
But those who are saved are created for good works..
Paul taught salvation by Grace alone through Faith alone. But that those who are saved will do good works..
For the average Joe Blow that's correct, but it was a requirement for the priesthood, as you mentioned. We are the new priesthood, so it can be reasonably inferred that water immersion into the order of Melchizedek is, at the very minimum, the anti-type of induction into the Aaronic priesthood as described in Leviticus 8. When John the Baptist, the greatest Aaronic priest who ever lived, immersed Jesus in the Jordan, he transferred the priesthood from the order of Aaron to the order of Melchizedek as prophesied by David in Psalm 110:4. So there is extremely high significance to water baptism IMO. What that means exactly, I'm not sure at this point
But water has nothing to do with it.
so it can not be part of salvation.
Do you even know what the word baptize means Oh wait. We have to go deeper. Because baptize is not even a native English word. It is a transliteration of a greek word (Baptizo) so if you want to the true defenition of the word. You have to go to the greek. And Eng;ish discionarey will nto help you. Because it is not a native english word.
Do you believe John the Baptist when he said Jesus would baptize us with the HS and fire? Is that not the true baptism which saved (or condems?)
so it can not be part of salvation.
Do you even know what the word baptize means Oh wait. We have to go deeper. Because baptize is not even a native English word. It is a transliteration of a greek word (Baptizo) so if you want to the true defenition of the word. You have to go to the greek. And Eng;ish discionarey will nto help you. Because it is not a native english word.
Do you believe John the Baptist when he said Jesus would baptize us with the HS and fire? Is that not the true baptism which saved (or condems?)
Okay, let's see:
1. John the Baptist, the one who came to prepare the way for Jesus, practiced baptism.
2. Jesus Himself was baptized.
3. Jesus' disciples baptized during Jesus' earthly ministry.
4. Jesus commanded us to baptize and to get baptized.
5. All the early believers in the New Testament were baptized in conjunction with believing in the Lord.
6. The New Testament authors wrote and taught on baptism.
Naw, doesn't sound that integral.
1. John the Baptist, the one who came to prepare the way for Jesus, practiced baptism.
2. Jesus Himself was baptized.
3. Jesus' disciples baptized during Jesus' earthly ministry.
4. Jesus commanded us to baptize and to get baptized.
5. All the early believers in the New Testament were baptized in conjunction with believing in the Lord.
6. The New Testament authors wrote and taught on baptism.
Naw, doesn't sound that integral.
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If you mean baptised with the Holy Spirit, I agree.
if you mean baptise in water. Your a false teacher.
John 3. Whoever believes is not condemned, who ever does not believe is condemned already.
is your faith in Christ, or is your faith in the one who immerses you in water
Baptize does not always mean water my friend.
That is the debate.
if you trust your water baptism to save your. Your trusting in your own works of righteousness which you did. And not in the mercy of God.. who saves us through the washing and regeneration of the spirit. Not of your pastor. And not in water
if you mean baptise in water. Your a false teacher.
John 3. Whoever believes is not condemned, who ever does not believe is condemned already.
is your faith in Christ, or is your faith in the one who immerses you in water
Baptize does not always mean water my friend.
That is the debate.
if you trust your water baptism to save your. Your trusting in your own works of righteousness which you did. And not in the mercy of God.. who saves us through the washing and regeneration of the spirit. Not of your pastor. And not in water
Silence?
I mentioned John 3 (no water baptism)
I mentioned John 6 (no water baptism)
The only tie that I find water baptism to remission of sin, is that John demanded that people showed fruit of having recieved it. peter told those who have recieved it to get baptized. And they did.
But hey, Again, If you want to place your faith in some sinner immersing you in water to save yourself. Again, feel free..
I mentioned John 3 (no water baptism)
I mentioned John 6 (no water baptism)
The only tie that I find water baptism to remission of sin, is that John demanded that people showed fruit of having recieved it. peter told those who have recieved it to get baptized. And they did.
But hey, Again, If you want to place your faith in some sinner immersing you in water to save yourself. Again, feel free..