Are giants the offspring of angels and humans?
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Something worth pondering is, the word used (oikētērion) in Jude 1:6 is the same word as used in 2Cor.5:2. As far as I know, it is not used anywhere else in the NT. The inference is they didn't just come down from heaven to earth, but abandoned their spiritual bodies.
Jude 1:6
And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;
2 Corinthians 5:2
For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed with our habitation which is from heaven,
Jude 1:6
And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;
2 Corinthians 5:2
For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed with our habitation which is from heaven,
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Is English not your first language? You keep changing what I have said but yeah, I noticed you
do that with Scripture also, as I have remarked before that you butcher it. Anyways, are you now
denying that the angels WHO LOOKED LIKE MEN were there in Sodom to rescue Lot and his family
due to the express will of God? How very strange. Who in your butchering-Scripture-view sent them, then?
do that with Scripture also, as I have remarked before that you butcher it. Anyways, are you now
denying that the angels WHO LOOKED LIKE MEN were there in Sodom to rescue Lot and his family
due to the express will of God? How very strange. Who in your butchering-Scripture-view sent them, then?
Hello Brother, This is my first post on these forums. I have been lurking and reading for a while, lots of threads that I find interesting(even the flat earth thread lol). This thread is interesting to me, in that people have differing views as to whom the phrase "Sons of God" is referring to in Genesis 6. I formerly was of the fallen Angel view, but like you it doesn't seem to be of God IMHO. Now I firmly believe the Sethite view, or the fallen man view is correct. There is a good article on the 'Answers in Genesis' website entitled "Who were the Nephilim-A fresh look". If you are interested.
Grace and Peace
Grace and Peace
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Yes Giants where the offspeing of Angels and human woman.. This was made pretty clear in the Bible.. I believe it was the reason for the great flood.. To wipe them out..
I believe it happened again in Cannan and this is one of the resons The LORD liberated the Hebrews from Egypt to use them to wipe out the Giants in Cannan a second time..
I believe it happened again in Cannan and this is one of the resons The LORD liberated the Hebrews from Egypt to use them to wipe out the Giants in Cannan a second time..
It is very noticeable that behaviours and abilities on earth really start to surpass all that had happened before AFTER the dtrs of men give birth to these beings described as giants or Nephalines.
Why else would God look to remove the presence of these Apex beings from earth who have no earthly competition to check the spread their influence if they were not perversely conceived through other ungodly sources.
Do you also just limit the impact of the Sons of God only to the dtrs of men, or do you also consider beastly giants such as dinosaurs.
Why else would God look to remove the presence of these Apex beings from earth who have no earthly competition to check the spread their influence if they were not perversely conceived through other ungodly sources.
Do you also just limit the impact of the Sons of God only to the dtrs of men, or do you also consider beastly giants such as dinosaurs.
"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown." Genesis 6:4
"And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.” numbers 13:33
Then there's David and Goliath. "for who is this uncircumcised Philistine, that he should defy the armies of the living God?" In other words he didn't belong to God so therfore David knew he would win by God.
There were definitely giants... and typically they're evil. God says to "annihilate" them and their babies even in the old testament. They're not human...or at least not from God.
Personally I think Adam and Eve would have been pretty tall and we got shorter at we progressed. (Against evolution which claims the opposite) perhaps they were giant. Idk but everything seemed huge back then, even ancient insects. Everything was bigger and more alive. It makes sense to me that includes Adam and Eve.
The serpent we find out in revelation is Satan was in the garden of eden. He was in the physical form. God created time,space, matter in verse 1. God created created the heaven and the earth. So we know he created time, space and matter then.
When Satan tempted Eve and lied he was cast out of heaven. The war started bc of what happened in the garden of eden. Satan has hated "sons and daughters of man" ever since. In other words "Fallen angels" and the "fall of man" were together. So yes they could reproduce technically if they were both physical. Seems strange though. But it's in the bible.
In ancient times that's why they wanted the "god gene" to remain and there was incest. It was passed down to humans, but started with Nephilim wanting to keep the fallen angel in them. Also the devil loves to corrupt obviously. Who knows what health and genetic issues he caused over that.
"And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.” numbers 13:33
Then there's David and Goliath. "for who is this uncircumcised Philistine, that he should defy the armies of the living God?" In other words he didn't belong to God so therfore David knew he would win by God.
There were definitely giants... and typically they're evil. God says to "annihilate" them and their babies even in the old testament. They're not human...or at least not from God.
Personally I think Adam and Eve would have been pretty tall and we got shorter at we progressed. (Against evolution which claims the opposite) perhaps they were giant. Idk but everything seemed huge back then, even ancient insects. Everything was bigger and more alive. It makes sense to me that includes Adam and Eve.
The serpent we find out in revelation is Satan was in the garden of eden. He was in the physical form. God created time,space, matter in verse 1. God created created the heaven and the earth. So we know he created time, space and matter then.
When Satan tempted Eve and lied he was cast out of heaven. The war started bc of what happened in the garden of eden. Satan has hated "sons and daughters of man" ever since. In other words "Fallen angels" and the "fall of man" were together. So yes they could reproduce technically if they were both physical. Seems strange though. But it's in the bible.
In ancient times that's why they wanted the "god gene" to remain and there was incest. It was passed down to humans, but started with Nephilim wanting to keep the fallen angel in them. Also the devil loves to corrupt obviously. Who knows what health and genetic issues he caused over that.
It is those few words that make the whole theory.... Sons of God.
I agree that angels are neither male or female so they can't reproduce.
Sons of God means, "children of God". Sons and daughters of God.
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. Context for verse 4,.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
1Jn_3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be:
I agree that angels are neither male or female so they can't reproduce.
Sons of God means, "children of God". Sons and daughters of God.
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. Context for verse 4,.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
1Jn_3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be:
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Thanks Magenta
I would disagree on that. I say the war in Rev 12 is past. Jesus saw satan falling from heaven in the gospel of John, which matches the description in Rev 12.
Plus Rev 12 has the birth of Jesus being described, its clearly 1st century history, which continues on as the dragon wages war upon the saints even till this day.
Plus Rev 12 has the birth of Jesus being described, its clearly 1st century history, which continues on as the dragon wages war upon the saints even till this day.
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