Are they shooting a new apocalyptic movie in LA?
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Wow!
OK, I did some simple calculations. They said that 17,000 acres have been burned. So I took the average population density of Los Angeles county per acre and multiplied by 17,000 and got 220,000 people. Now consider how many stores that would also include. Now imagine the cost of an entire city of 220,000 people being burned to the ground (and note, the fire is not over, not by a long shot). That would be like Birmingham Alabama or Scottsdale Arizona burning to the ground. Now what happens when you have 220,000 refugees? Also there must be many people impacted because the place where they worked burned to the ground.
Now remember, their estimate of 17,000 acres burned is likely to be conservative and when all is said and done it will be much worse. I have noticed this on many disasters. At the time they estimate a certain amount of damage, you go back two years later and look it up and you find that the real number was generally twice what they told you at the time. For example in 2006, one year after Hurricane Katrina they estimated 40-50 billion in monetary losses (https://rwkates.org/pdfs/a2006.03.pdf). Today if you look it up Wikipedia has $125 billion in losses.
I also looked up the average home price in Los Angeles, it is almost $1 million. This fire may wind up costing over $100 billion.
If the final result of this is double the size of what they have told us you are looking at a city the size of Atlanta or Kansas city burning to the ground.
OK, I did some simple calculations. They said that 17,000 acres have been burned. So I took the average population density of Los Angeles county per acre and multiplied by 17,000 and got 220,000 people. Now consider how many stores that would also include. Now imagine the cost of an entire city of 220,000 people being burned to the ground (and note, the fire is not over, not by a long shot). That would be like Birmingham Alabama or Scottsdale Arizona burning to the ground. Now what happens when you have 220,000 refugees? Also there must be many people impacted because the place where they worked burned to the ground.
Now remember, their estimate of 17,000 acres burned is likely to be conservative and when all is said and done it will be much worse. I have noticed this on many disasters. At the time they estimate a certain amount of damage, you go back two years later and look it up and you find that the real number was generally twice what they told you at the time. For example in 2006, one year after Hurricane Katrina they estimated 40-50 billion in monetary losses (https://rwkates.org/pdfs/a2006.03.pdf). Today if you look it up Wikipedia has $125 billion in losses.
I also looked up the average home price in Los Angeles, it is almost $1 million. This fire may wind up costing over $100 billion.
If the final result of this is double the size of what they have told us you are looking at a city the size of Atlanta or Kansas city burning to the ground.
Your numbers based on averages is waaaaaay off. The total number evacuated is half of your "average estimated" since the areas affected are extremely hilly thus the population density is low. More than likely your estimated damages might actually be low since the community of Pacific Palisades (Palisades Fire) is highly affluent with an average home price of 4.7 million.
Unfortunately, areas like Pacific Palisades and Malibu end up burning about once every 10 years but the morons that live there choose to rebuild and have it happen all over again.
I grew up not far from where the Hurst Fire is burning and always wondered when I was a kid why (between fires and mudslides) why any insurance company would cover homes in areas like that.
Nope, I saw a recent news story, 170,000 were under orders to evacuate and about 60,000 were now able to return home and no longer under evacuation. Numbers are spot on.
They are now estimating 5,000 structures that have burned. This could be a house, a commercial building or an apartment complex. I think it is safe to say that the average cost per structure is over $1 million since the average price for a house there is $1 million. I imagine commercial real estate and apartment buildings are much more expensive. That is $5 billion worth of structures damaged as a low end. It will probably be at least one year before we have a reasonable estimate of the damage, but I'm guessing that this may rival Katrina.
I am also reading that 27,000 acres have been burned. Based on the average population density for LA county that would be where about 350,000 people live.
I am also reading that 27,000 acres have been burned. Based on the average population density for LA county that would be where about 350,000 people live.
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daisyseesthesun
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Fox 11 said there was an arsonist caught in California trying to light trees and dumpsters unfire and was caught by neighbors.
Yeah. Climate change is a thing. That's why we get tornadoes every December now when it used to be practically unheard of
You know what else is a thing? California using much more water than they get in rain. Between Agriculture and golf courses they have been running a deficit on their water budget for decades. What do you think happens as a result? Bone dry conditions and fires.
You know what else is a thing? People being arrested for arson.
You know what else is a thing? No water pressure in many fire hydrants. Also many firefighters that had been let go. This is what the highest taxes in the US gets you.
You know what else is a thing? The highest gas tax in the country to do what? Fight climate change? So combine that with no water pressure and firing fire fighters. You might think these two things don't go together but you would be wrong because they will use this fire to increase the taxes!
In the link I provide he shares a hilarious story. Ten years ago California passed a tax to raise money to build new reservoirs to store more water in Southern California to help fight these fires. They have been collecting the money for ten years and not one reservoir has been built. LOL. Yes, Dude, that is a thing too.
Now they are saying 10,000 structures are destroyed and 55 square miles of LA county has burned.
Watch Live: Officials give update on California wildfires
Population density of LA county is 2,430 people per square mile.
2430 x 55 = 133,650 people directly impacted. Either their home destroyed, damaged, or their neighborhood burned down.
But we can be sure there are many other people who work in that area and have now lost their job because the place they worked at has burned down.
Watch Live: Officials give update on California wildfires
Population density of LA county is 2,430 people per square mile.
2430 x 55 = 133,650 people directly impacted. Either their home destroyed, damaged, or their neighborhood burned down.
But we can be sure there are many other people who work in that area and have now lost their job because the place they worked at has burned down.
There are now 155,000 mandated to evacuate, 166,000 who have been warned to be ready to evacuate, and over 60,000 who can now return to their property after the fire has passed through. We are talking about a total of 400,000 that could be impacted before this is over (the population of Atlanta is 500,000).
Talks about
1. Arson
2. Insurance companies
3. Vaxx mandates and the shortage of firefighters.
4. Funding cuts
5. Insurance companies pulling their fire insurance policies recently
6. Mass lootings
7. Little fish called a smelt causing fire hydrants to not have water
So then it is because of climate change. If you bombard people with propaganda about how they are destroying the planet and you feel that they just aren't listening so you have to do something to force them to listen and so an arsonist goes out in 100 mph wind gusts with a torch to start some fires you can argue he is doing it because of what they have told him about climate change.
So then we can sue all these fear mongerers on their TV shows pushing this narrative.
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daisyseesthesun
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It's ridiculous that there was no water in the hydrants! Also why couldn't they use the pool water? LA alone has 760 million gallons.
Didn't the Muslims just say that there would be terrorist attack all over the USA? This was right after new years and the New Orleans attack.i can see some vigilantes getting revenge for their imam