Woman first....what do you think?
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I know she was 
. Her husband also blamed her when he made the decision to follow her in transgression. Which is what some men in the church are doing today, blaming issues on "prideful women" rather than men shirking their spiritual responsibilities. If you feel that male-ness alone is a mandate from God to be a strong leader, then shouldn't a fallen, prideful woman be no match for a spiritual male?
I'm curious what your point is, your OP was an interesting premise but you seem to have spiraled away from it. Clarify?
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. Her husband also blamed her when he made the decision to follow her in transgression. Which is what some men in the church are doing today, blaming issues on "prideful women" rather than men shirking their spiritual responsibilities. If you feel that male-ness alone is a mandate from God to be a strong leader, then shouldn't a fallen, prideful woman be no match for a spiritual male?I'm curious what your point is, your OP was an interesting premise but you seem to have spiraled away from it. Clarify?
Take your time with your response!
….yeah I never said anything about man and women sharing the same roles nor did I mention what Paul said about eve being deceived had neither point had anything to do eith what I had said in reply to the op
nor was I talking about the marriage structure wheras a husband is the head of his wife . Not that all men are the head of all women or all women must submit to all men . Or women are less than a man anything like that as some seem to think what I had said is
God doesn’t care if a person is a man or a women he sees us not by our flesh identity or gender but by the spirit redeemed through Jesus that has no gender role he sees us by the lives we live in his son
nor was I talking about the marriage structure wheras a husband is the head of his wife . Not that all men are the head of all women or all women must submit to all men . Or women are less than a man anything like that as some seem to think what I had said is
God doesn’t care if a person is a man or a women he sees us not by our flesh identity or gender but by the spirit redeemed through Jesus that has no gender role he sees us by the lives we live in his son
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Yeah I hadn’t said anything about teaching in the church…..or again gender roles in society lol or anything like that I had responded to the op in unrelated subject you may have my post mixed up with another
But consider that Jesus looks at us like this my friend
“While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.”
Matthew 12:46-50 KJV
Family.
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
Genesis 1:27
“This is the book of the generations of Adam.
In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.”
Genesis 5:1-2
“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.”
Acts 8:12 KJV
“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:27-29
consider peters first revelation from the prophet Joel after receiving the spirit and beginning to speak by it
“But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, And your young men shall see visions, And your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: ……And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Acts 2:16-18, 21
I believe God can use women and does use them as he does men to spread the message of the gospel. Truly very very very few men are actually qualified to have any spiritual authority over anyone else . And very few are in that position to be leading a congregation which isnt what I was talking about . I think gender doesn’t qualify anyone but being called and made able and given a commission by God does like for instance Mary when she became the first witness of Jesus resurrection.
I get it though some of them didn’t believe her either … those silly women and all lol always a gossipin’ 😅😅
But consider that Jesus looks at us like this my friend
“While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.”
Matthew 12:46-50 KJV
Family.
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
Genesis 1:27
“This is the book of the generations of Adam.
In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.”
Genesis 5:1-2
“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.”
Acts 8:12 KJV
“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:27-29
consider peters first revelation from the prophet Joel after receiving the spirit and beginning to speak by it
“But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, And your young men shall see visions, And your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: ……And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Acts 2:16-18, 21
I believe God can use women and does use them as he does men to spread the message of the gospel. Truly very very very few men are actually qualified to have any spiritual authority over anyone else . And very few are in that position to be leading a congregation which isnt what I was talking about . I think gender doesn’t qualify anyone but being called and made able and given a commission by God does like for instance Mary when she became the first witness of Jesus resurrection.
I get it though some of them didn’t believe her either … those silly women and all lol always a gossipin’ 😅😅
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This makes me wonder who the first person was that exercised faith in God's word. Of course, Abram is infamous for faith according to Hebrews 11...
but Eve, going on God's promise of her seed, at seeing that she had brought forth a son, exclaimed that she had brought forth a man ("ish," which typically indicates a husband, in comparison to the typical "ha adam' man) believed that she had brought forth the [et; a word that is not uttered but is indicated by the first and the last letters of the Hebrew alphabet as 'the' LORD] when she gave birth to Cain. Although it turned out that it was their second son, Abel, who "in faith offered..." Eve's initial reaction to Cain shows that she faithfully expected the promised child, Jesus.
but Eve, going on God's promise of her seed, at seeing that she had brought forth a son, exclaimed that she had brought forth a man ("ish," which typically indicates a husband, in comparison to the typical "ha adam' man) believed that she had brought forth the [et; a word that is not uttered but is indicated by the first and the last letters of the Hebrew alphabet as 'the' LORD] when she gave birth to Cain. Although it turned out that it was their second son, Abel, who "in faith offered..." Eve's initial reaction to Cain shows that she faithfully expected the promised child, Jesus.
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