Are giants the offspring of angels and humans?
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5437693, member: 334825"]I don't understand the proclivity of some Christians to believe something that in essence is pagan mythology, ie, gods having sex with women[/QUOTE]
It’s all coming from this verse
“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”
Genesis 6:4 KJV
because it says the sons of God came into the daughters of men “ people assume it must be angels because they produced “ giants “ so we add in a tbeorhetical idea that of spiritual angels bred with natural humans somehow tbier babies would be giants ? This relies not on any factual basis but a misreading of a statement early in scripture later we find out mankind is the children and hiers of God
children receive inheritance to come to the conclusion one has to assume “sons of God are angels “ but biblically it’s refuted pretty clearly and without mistake
It’s all coming from this verse
“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”
Genesis 6:4 KJV
because it says the sons of God came into the daughters of men “ people assume it must be angels because they produced “ giants “ so we add in a tbeorhetical idea that of spiritual angels bred with natural humans somehow tbier babies would be giants ? This relies not on any factual basis but a misreading of a statement early in scripture later we find out mankind is the children and hiers of God
children receive inheritance to come to the conclusion one has to assume “sons of God are angels “ but biblically it’s refuted pretty clearly and without mistake
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It’s all coming from this verse
“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”
Genesis 6:4 KJV
because it says the sons of God came into the daughters of men “ people assume it must be angels because they produced “ giants “ so we add in a tbeorhetical idea that of spiritual angels bred with natural humans somehow tbier babies would be giants ? This relies not on any factual basis but a misreading of a statement early in scripture later we find out mankind is the children and hiers of God
children receive inheritance to come to the conclusion one has to assume “sons of God are angels “ but biblically it’s refuted pretty clearly and without mistake[/QUOTE]
Are angels sons of God?
“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”
Genesis 6:4 KJV
because it says the sons of God came into the daughters of men “ people assume it must be angels because they produced “ giants “ so we add in a tbeorhetical idea that of spiritual angels bred with natural humans somehow tbier babies would be giants ? This relies not on any factual basis but a misreading of a statement early in scripture later we find out mankind is the children and hiers of God
children receive inheritance to come to the conclusion one has to assume “sons of God are angels “ but biblically it’s refuted pretty clearly and without mistake[/QUOTE]
Are angels sons of God?
“Then men called upon the name of the Lord is an mis quote from the original. “
yes tbisbis a common tactic here if the scripture doesn’t fit out idea say the original doesn’t say that can you tell me how you came to this o owledge of the “ original “ and how people had it wrong until now ?
asks why does the Bible call Adam the son of God ?
“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
Luke 3:38 KJV
Or why does Hebrews show clearly the difference in Gods children and his spiritual ministers who minister to the hiers which are the children ?
“hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee?
And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire. But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
Hebrews 1:2-5, 7, 13-14 KJV
the hiers of God are his children
“The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.”
Romans 8:16
I’d say given the fact that God was associating with them the scripture is correct saying they began to call upon his name we know abel was accepted by God and was a man of faith see Hebrews 11 but cain even though he did wickedness God was still speaking with him calling him to repentance
i think upon careful observation in those early generations they had a very close relationship with God Enoch never even died as he walked by faith those are the sons of God it’s always been mankind
“What is man, that thou art mindful of him? And the son of man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, And hast crowned him with glory and honour. Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; Thou hast put all things under his feet:”
Psalm 8:4-6
why do you suppose some of the angels rebelled against Gods relationship with mankind why does Satan hate us so much ?
man is chosen and ordained to be Gods children made in his likeness and image and given an inheritance of his creation
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
Genesis 1:27 KJV
christ is the image of God
yes tbisbis a common tactic here if the scripture doesn’t fit out idea say the original doesn’t say that can you tell me how you came to this o owledge of the “ original “ and how people had it wrong until now ?
asks why does the Bible call Adam the son of God ?
“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
Luke 3:38 KJV
Or why does Hebrews show clearly the difference in Gods children and his spiritual ministers who minister to the hiers which are the children ?
“hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee?
And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire. But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
Hebrews 1:2-5, 7, 13-14 KJV
the hiers of God are his children
“The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.”
Romans 8:16
I’d say given the fact that God was associating with them the scripture is correct saying they began to call upon his name we know abel was accepted by God and was a man of faith see Hebrews 11 but cain even though he did wickedness God was still speaking with him calling him to repentance
i think upon careful observation in those early generations they had a very close relationship with God Enoch never even died as he walked by faith those are the sons of God it’s always been mankind
“What is man, that thou art mindful of him? And the son of man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, And hast crowned him with glory and honour. Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; Thou hast put all things under his feet:”
Psalm 8:4-6
why do you suppose some of the angels rebelled against Gods relationship with mankind why does Satan hate us so much ?
man is chosen and ordained to be Gods children made in his likeness and image and given an inheritance of his creation
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
Genesis 1:27 KJV
christ is the image of God
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Are angels sons of God?[/QUOTE]
Not according to the Bible no . read this section of Hebrews if you do that you’ll have a hard time not hearing it
“hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. ( his son )
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?”
Hebrews 1:2, 4-5 KJV
Jesus is the son and his name was inherited a better and greater name than angels because none has ever been called his son.
“But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool? ( he said that to his son )
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
Hebrews 1:13-14 KJV
the children are the hiers of thier parent angels are spiritual ministers sent to minister to them
“But we see Jesus, ( the son ) who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; ( jesus became one of the children man not angels ) that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, ( the son made like the children ) that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.”
Hebrews 2:9-10, 14-17 KJV
I think that of you read that section of scripture Hebrews chapter one and two it pretty much clears up the question rather thoroughly making a very clear and pronounced difference between Gods children and Gods angels
p.s. The closest verse to saying anything even close is when it says men will become like angels in the resurrection not marrying or giving in marriage
Not according to the Bible no . read this section of Hebrews if you do that you’ll have a hard time not hearing it
“hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. ( his son )
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?”
Hebrews 1:2, 4-5 KJV
Jesus is the son and his name was inherited a better and greater name than angels because none has ever been called his son.
“But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool? ( he said that to his son )
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
Hebrews 1:13-14 KJV
the children are the hiers of thier parent angels are spiritual ministers sent to minister to them
“But we see Jesus, ( the son ) who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; ( jesus became one of the children man not angels ) that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, ( the son made like the children ) that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.”
Hebrews 2:9-10, 14-17 KJV
I think that of you read that section of scripture Hebrews chapter one and two it pretty much clears up the question rather thoroughly making a very clear and pronounced difference between Gods children and Gods angels
p.s. The closest verse to saying anything even close is when it says men will become like angels in the resurrection not marrying or giving in marriage