Slain in the spirit?
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One of the greatest truthful accusations against the church is that they no longer hold to their standards. You won't even hear the word used anymore. Because of this, churches compromise with false teaching, and then wonder what happened to their anointing. They lost their anointing because they grieve the Spirit of the LORD.
The church grieves the Holy Spirit, by introducing false, unproven doctrine. Doing so is rebellion to God & rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.
1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
God still rejects those who live by & teach false doctrine.
God never changes.
1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
God still rejects those who live by & teach false doctrine.
God never changes.
I know you dont agree with Jesus United- doctrine divids. I told that because many people justice their believe with this saying.
When I became a Christian in 1987 many churches were clear in their teachings, the same are not clear today anymore.
People can claim nearly everything. Nobody will questioning your personal expieriences.
This mans name is Johannes Hartl. He is RCC Theologe. But what I wantet to say.
That even among Christian leaders ,of in this case my church, follow him very much. They dont see problems that he teaches rcc doctrine. He is a good speaker and reaches manly young people. Speak good, say something true about Jesus and you can tell everything. If the leader of churches which should take care for a sound and true word of God, dont discern the spirits, who will do?
When I became a Christian in 1987 many churches were clear in their teachings, the same are not clear today anymore.
People can claim nearly everything. Nobody will questioning your personal expieriences.
This mans name is Johannes Hartl. He is RCC Theologe. But what I wantet to say.
That even among Christian leaders ,of in this case my church, follow him very much. They dont see problems that he teaches rcc doctrine. He is a good speaker and reaches manly young people. Speak good, say something true about Jesus and you can tell everything. If the leader of churches which should take care for a sound and true word of God, dont discern the spirits, who will do?
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Sorry, still I cant see that falling backwards after putting a hand on the forehead is from God. Also it is strange that if you enter a church you fell in trance.
The devil has many benefit!
I never read in the post pentecostal time in the NT about such kind of events.
And I read also not that when the Holy Spirit came to the believers in Acts 2 ore 10, that the people or a leader pushed the Holy Spirit to come over them. The Initiative came from God. And all knew that. Except the unbelievers.
The devil has many benefit!
I never read in the post pentecostal time in the NT about such kind of events.
And I read also not that when the Holy Spirit came to the believers in Acts 2 ore 10, that the people or a leader pushed the Holy Spirit to come over them. The Initiative came from God. And all knew that. Except the unbelievers.
Yes he cannot enter yet when I yielded to the spirit something entered me and my body got up and walked on it's own feeling no pain from my broken foot so if he cannot enter then how do you explain what happened?
I understand your skepticism but I tell the truth in every word I speak on this and my foot was healed how do you explain that? the devil? the devil only comes to destroy not heal and if it was from the devil why can no one prove it?
I understand your skepticism but I tell the truth in every word I speak on this and my foot was healed how do you explain that? the devil? the devil only comes to destroy not heal and if it was from the devil why can no one prove it?
Exactly all she did was put her hand on my head and suddenly it was like I was thrown backwards
. I have to admit I have heard some pretty interesting theories about what happened though I mean it being from the devil with no evidence to support it or back it up is one thing but some have tired pretty hard to twist words and scriptures even ignoriig parts of my op
I think studentoftheword is done haven't seen him here in this thread for a while
The thing is why assume it was from the devil if there is no way to prove it? what kind of mindset do you need to have to make an assumption like that a half hlass empty kind?
however people only see what they want to see and still no one has been able to answer my question so it all comes down to me being a liar since there is no evidence to prove it was from the devil but it couldn't possibly be from God either so it boils down to me being a liar
For people who are so adamanet on solid doctrine why base your assumption on just that an assumption no evidence no scripture to disprove it and just completely ignoring the fruits that is what ignorance is
. I have to admit I have heard some pretty interesting theories about what happened though I mean it being from the devil with no evidence to support it or back it up is one thing but some have tired pretty hard to twist words and scriptures even ignoriig parts of my op
I think studentoftheword is done haven't seen him here in this thread for a while
The thing is why assume it was from the devil if there is no way to prove it? what kind of mindset do you need to have to make an assumption like that a half hlass empty kind?
however people only see what they want to see and still no one has been able to answer my question so it all comes down to me being a liar since there is no evidence to prove it was from the devil but it couldn't possibly be from God either so it boils down to me being a liar
For people who are so adamanet on solid doctrine why base your assumption on just that an assumption no evidence no scripture to disprove it and just completely ignoring the fruits that is what ignorance is
So I ask again if it is from the devil where in the word of God can the devil posess or knock down a believer in Christ and one more question if you think it was the devil on what basis do you make that assumption what evidence is there and can you make a solid stand on your assumption?
Here is mine I surrendered to God in that moment, my foot was healed I saw Jesus and God was glorified by the whole church now as for it being from the devil what is there to offer?
Here is mine I surrendered to God in that moment, my foot was healed I saw Jesus and God was glorified by the whole church now as for it being from the devil what is there to offer?
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Thats correct and I said this in the 2nd line of my post.
push is probably the wrong word. I meant that through the human voice caused pressure and calling the Holy Spirit to come. Which I have heard in charismatics circles.
When a believer has the Holy Spirit, he must not call him again and again and again to come.
push is probably the wrong word. I meant that through the human voice caused pressure and calling the Holy Spirit to come. Which I have heard in charismatics circles.
When a believer has the Holy Spirit, he must not call him again and again and again to come.
Well, how the devil is called? Angel of light. He is able to deceice even the elected. Is an statement from our Lord Jesus.
✝ Matthew 24:24
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
✝ Matthew 24:24
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
No I mean an actual explanation not taking scripture out of context. What do you think he meant when he was saying this? he was talking about something else not this specific situation that is a generic response that can be applied to anything I could use the same for say speaking in tongues or the antichrist what about what happened makes you think satan had anything to do with it?
Re read my op and show me where satan came as an angel of light
Re read my op and show me where satan came as an angel of light