Evolution theory vs God

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SaysWhat

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Yes, the egg is ready to go, all it needs is the DNA from the men for the nucleus but not for any of the other parts of the cell.
Men also send messenger RNAs to assist in the growth and development of the fetus.
 
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The theory of evolution is an okay theory with many holes.
But what takes an insane amount of faith is to believe in abiogenesis.
If you ask me to believe that, i might as well believe that the Universe was created in 6 exact days.
That's more believable than abiogenesis.
It's more believable because Moses (presuming he wrote Genesis) saw a "fast forward" vision which he couldn't explain precisely with his limited language of his time.

But abiogenesis? What do you got?
Nothing!
There's been plenty of evidence for evolution and not much for opposing theories.
 

ZNP

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There's been plenty of evidence for evolution and not much for opposing theories.
You are conflating two different things. There is plenty of evidence that there is one creation, that man is flesh. Yes, that is true, that is also Biblical. What has been thoroughly debunked is the mechanism, is it random mutations from radiation or is it intelligent design of a creator. The theory that it is due to random mutations has been thoroughly demonstrated to be false mathematically.
 

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You are conflating two different things. There is plenty of evidence that there is one creation, that man is flesh. Yes, that is true, that is also Biblical. What has been thoroughly debunked is the mechanism, is it random mutations from radiation or is it intelligent design of a creator. The theory that it is due to random mutations has been thoroughly demonstrated to be false mathematically.
The cell includes a mechanism to repair faulty DNA. The vast majority of mutations are destructive. It's not only mathematically but practically impossible. Sneaky evolutionists conflate adaptation with evolution. They see changes in a species and say that is evolution. It is not, of course. It does not matter how many iterations of dogs breeders produce. Whatever they get is still a dog.
 

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There's been plenty of evidence for evolution and not much for opposing theories.
There is an insurmountable obstacle to evolution, as demonstrated by Stephen Meyer. DNA is a code that describes exactly what a being will be. It determines every physical characteristic.

A code by definition is not random. An explosion in a scrabble factory is not going to produce a play by Shakespeare. And that is the likelihood of DNA occurring randomly in a form that would give rise to living creatures as we know them.
 

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Many Christians are not clear on God forming man from the dust of the ground.

Red clay is not the same thing as dust. Adam is often equated with red clay, but we aren't technically made from clay, which would be silica. We are made from dust which is organic, made of carbon. More importantly if you look at dust under a microscope it is composed of microscopic organisms. Dust is alive.

The Bible is very clear, it is a matter of the faith that we believe in one creation. Not ten million separate creations.

God formed man. The word means to fashion or form or preordain. This is a different word from create which is used three times prior to the use of formed. Genesis is quite clear the verb responsible for the creation is different from the verb responsible for forming man from the dust of the ground. God calling being out of not being is quite different from taking dust from the ground and forming it into a man. It is also quite clear from Genesis 2:1 that the process of creating the heavens and the earth were completed prior to God forming man from the dust of the ground.

What math and DNA have proven is that this process of forming man was not random mutations and could not be random mutations. There was an intelligent design, the single best theory which stands up to the bright spotlight.
 
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There is an insurmountable obstacle to evolution, as demonstrated by Stephen Meyer. DNA is a code that describes exactly what a being will be. It determines every physical characteristic.

A code by definition is not random. An explosion in a scrabble factory is not going to produce a play by Shakespeare. And that is the likelihood of DNA occurring randomly in a form that would give rise to living creatures as we know them.
That's pretty much what happens when a caterpillar morphs into a monarch butterfly. A stem cell holding the info for the whole structure of the butterfly that uses the dissolved soup that was the caterpillar and builds the butterfly from scratch.
 
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While I don't hold to macro-evolution, I must challenge your use of the term "theory". "That still doesn't justify the term being used with "evolutionary", but it does mean your mockery is misguided."
I completely agree.
And you can have full assurance that when I join in to mock evolution, it will be entirely "guided" with no "misses."

Only properly "guided" mockery from me.
: )


Dino actually made an important point here... it just sounded funny.
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