God gave the law about Circumcision.
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God's word says that homosexuality is an abomination.
It also says that we are all sinners, and we all fall short of the goal of living perfect lives.
It also lists quite a few sins that were being committed, and the believers were told "and this is what many of you were (sinners)"
So, since we have a loving and forgiving God, if a person has homosexual tendencies, they most certainly can be Christians. Just as a person that has gambling/drinking/gossiping/porn/fornication/hateful tendencies.... the GOAL is to not participate in those activities.
As believers, we do our very best every day to not give in to those temptations...
We are also not to try to justify sinful living, simply saying "well, God will forgive me".... God will not be fooled, or mocked.
It also says that we are all sinners, and we all fall short of the goal of living perfect lives.
It also lists quite a few sins that were being committed, and the believers were told "and this is what many of you were (sinners)"
So, since we have a loving and forgiving God, if a person has homosexual tendencies, they most certainly can be Christians. Just as a person that has gambling/drinking/gossiping/porn/fornication/hateful tendencies.... the GOAL is to not participate in those activities.
As believers, we do our very best every day to not give in to those temptations...
We are also not to try to justify sinful living, simply saying "well, God will forgive me".... God will not be fooled, or mocked.
I totally agree with what you say – but the point is, your opinion on what’s right and wrong is based on information given / written / guidance – not instinctively, we have learnt and made a choice of how to live and act. A non-religious / pagan etc… person may instinctively believe fornication, child out of marriage etc… is fine and believe God doesn’t exist – (obviously everyone has a right to their opinions) we learn and from our knowledge make a decision on how to live! If anything, its probably more instinctive to live how you want, instead of constraining yourself. Therefore, IMO we must have Gods command to know!
Yes, some of that is true, but we also have other outside influences in our decision making... societal norms, input from "involved" people, and the internal knowledge of "I would not like someone treating me this way, so it must be wrong for me to treat them that way"... much of that is just "common" knowledge.
The fine tuning of right/wrong leaves much room for variation, of course. Many of the native American tribes held their best thief in very high esteem, where the "American" culture views a thief much differently.
The fine tuning of right/wrong leaves much room for variation, of course. Many of the native American tribes held their best thief in very high esteem, where the "American" culture views a thief much differently.
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Let us identify the persons whom Paul talking in Galatians 5:2-4.
They are the Real Christians of Galatia.
If they are The Real Christians, therefore they are already Spiritually Circumcised.
What Paul meant is The Real Christians in Galatia were already freed from Yoke of Bondage same as Lazarus.
GALATIANS 5:1
5 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Since they were freed by the Truth (John 14:6 & John 8:32) they were abusing their freedom by claiming they are already Spiritually Circumcised and they can do what they want.
They forgot that even they are spiritually circumcised, they may still Perish.
GALATIANS 5:2-4
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Yes, Spiritually Circumcised is important because this is what a person will rise from the dead (Spiritually dead Proverbs 21:16), same as Lazarus inside the Cave.
But they will be saved from their Faith with Love.
GALATIANS 5:5-6
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
But only those risen from the dead like Lazarus will receive Faith from God.
EPHESIANS 2:8
EPHESIANS 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Paul did not Prohibit the Spiritual Circumcision (Galatians 5:2) as God The Father Commanded in Geneses 17:10-13.
Paul emphasized to the Real Christians of Galatia that after the Spiritual Circumcision, next is having Faith from God.
Therefore: God the father is very Consistent in Ecclesiastes 1:9 and Malachi 3:6.
Even in our times today. People must have Spiritual Circumcision First so that they will be risen from the dead (Spiritually Dead Provers 21:16) then the next is a Gift Faith from God in order to get saved.
Let us identify the persons whom Paul talking in Galatians 5:2-4.
They are the Real Christians of Galatia.
If they are The Real Christians, therefore they are already Spiritually Circumcised.
What Paul meant is The Real Christians in Galatia were already freed from Yoke of Bondage same as Lazarus.
GALATIANS 5:1
5 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Since they were freed by the Truth (John 14:6 & John 8:32) they were abusing their freedom by claiming they are already Spiritually Circumcised and they can do what they want.
They forgot that even they are spiritually circumcised, they may still Perish.
GALATIANS 5:2-4
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Yes, Spiritually Circumcised is important because this is what a person will rise from the dead (Spiritually dead Proverbs 21:16), same as Lazarus inside the Cave.
But they will be saved from their Faith with Love.
GALATIANS 5:5-6
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
But only those risen from the dead like Lazarus will receive Faith from God.
EPHESIANS 2:8
EPHESIANS 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Paul did not Prohibit the Spiritual Circumcision (Galatians 5:2) as God The Father Commanded in Geneses 17:10-13.
Paul emphasized to the Real Christians of Galatia that after the Spiritual Circumcision, next is having Faith from God.
Therefore: God the father is very Consistent in Ecclesiastes 1:9 and Malachi 3:6.
Even in our times today. People must have Spiritual Circumcision First so that they will be risen from the dead (Spiritually Dead Provers 21:16) then the next is a Gift Faith from God in order to get saved.
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Yes, and an insight I just recently was graced with is that there is no qualitative difference between faith that accepts God’s saving grace at conversion and faith that accepts God’s working grace while walking/living (EPH 2:8-10, 2CR 5:7), but only a quantitative difference as each additional moment passes–and of course faith remains non-meritorious during the saint’s entire lifetime.
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Let us remember that the Spiritual doctor is Our Lord Jesus Christ only and No One else.
Even in our times today, Our Lord Jesus Christ could make the Spiritual Circumcision as long as the person involve could humble himself/herself.
Let us remember that the Spiritual doctor is Our Lord Jesus Christ only and No One else.
Even in our times today, Our Lord Jesus Christ could make the Spiritual Circumcision as long as the person involve could humble himself/herself.
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Who is in need of Spiritual Circumcision to Our Lord Jesus Christ?
Our Lord said: His words never pass away.
MATTHEW 24:35
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
What is the words or the truth words of Our Lord Jesus regarding the status of the people in our times?
He said the whole world was deceit
REVELATION 12:9
.9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
If the people were deceit, no one is looking for God.
ROMANS 2:10-12
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
If No One is looking for God, they are Spiritually dead like Lazarus.
PROVERBS 21:16
16 The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.
This is the reason why God the Father gave his Commandment in Genesis 17:10-13 so that every person accept the Spiritual Circumcision from Our Lord Jesus Christ will rise from the dead like Lazarus.
Who is in need of Spiritual Circumcision to Our Lord Jesus Christ?
Our Lord said: His words never pass away.
MATTHEW 24:35
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
What is the words or the truth words of Our Lord Jesus regarding the status of the people in our times?
He said the whole world was deceit
REVELATION 12:9
.9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
If the people were deceit, no one is looking for God.
ROMANS 2:10-12
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
If No One is looking for God, they are Spiritually dead like Lazarus.
PROVERBS 21:16
16 The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.
This is the reason why God the Father gave his Commandment in Genesis 17:10-13 so that every person accept the Spiritual Circumcision from Our Lord Jesus Christ will rise from the dead like Lazarus.
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God said Spread The Good News.
No One could stop it because God will make a way.
LUKE 19:40
40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.
God said Spread The Good News.
No One could stop it because God will make a way.
LUKE 19:40
40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.
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This site have lot of visitors. They are old and new visitors.
There is no harmful in repeating the sharing so that the new visitors could catch up the topic.
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This site have lot of visitors. They are old and new visitors.
There is no harmful in repeating the sharing so that the new visitors could catch up the topic.
Good works are not extrinsic to salvation, so we are not required to have first done enough good works in order to earn our salvation as the result and we are not required to do good works as the result of having first been saved, but rather the experience being a doer of good works is intrinsically part of God's gift of saving us from not being a doer of good works. Jesus saves us from our sin (Matthew 1:21) and sin is the transgression of God's law (1 John 3:4), so Jesus graciously teaching us to be a doer of it is intrinsically the way that he is giving us his gift of saving us from not being a doer of it.
You use of abbreviations does not add clarity, so please explain what you mean by p.s & o.S.
You use of abbreviations does not add clarity, so please explain what you mean by p.s & o.S.
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A child of God is someone whose life is directed at being in His likeness by being a doer of His character traits in obedience to His law, which is why those who do not practice righteousness in obedience to it are not children of God (1 John 3:4-10) and why Paul contrasted those who are born of the Spirit with those who have minds set on the flesh who are enemies of God who refuse to submit to His law (Romans 8:4-14). If we sin, then we repent and return to obedience, so our lives are still directed at being in God's likeness. We do not lose or regain our salvation every time that we sin and repent, but someone who turns their back on God is another issue.
There can be legitimate and illegitimate reasons for not following a particular law and James 2:10 is only speaking in regard to illegitimate reasons. Even when the law was first given to Moses, there was not a single person who was required to obey all of the laws and not even Jesus obeyed the laws in regard to giving birth or to having a period, so he was not considered to be a lawbreaker because he had a legitimate reason for not following those laws.
Our salvation from sin would be incomplete if we were only saved from the penalty of our sin while our lives continued to be directed at being doers of sin, so there must be an aspect of our gift of salvation from sin that we are experiencing in the present by directing our lives towards being a doer of God's law. In Titus 2:11-13, our salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so God graciously teaching us to be a doer of those works is the aspect of His gift of salvation that we are experiencing in the present.
I believe that the whole Bible is true, so I do not interpret any part of it as being contrary to another part. I try to support my beliefs with Scripture as thoroughly as I can, so if you think that I'm leaving out verses that do not confirm to my beliefs, then please bring them up. I have no claimed that anyone is saved from brith. In Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so the way to believe in what Jesus spent his ministry teaching by word and by example and in what he accomplished through the cross is by repenting and becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to God's law (Acts 21:20).
There can be legitimate and illegitimate reasons for not following a particular law and James 2:10 is only speaking in regard to illegitimate reasons. Even when the law was first given to Moses, there was not a single person who was required to obey all of the laws and not even Jesus obeyed the laws in regard to giving birth or to having a period, so he was not considered to be a lawbreaker because he had a legitimate reason for not following those laws.
Our salvation from sin would be incomplete if we were only saved from the penalty of our sin while our lives continued to be directed at being doers of sin, so there must be an aspect of our gift of salvation from sin that we are experiencing in the present by directing our lives towards being a doer of God's law. In Titus 2:11-13, our salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so God graciously teaching us to be a doer of those works is the aspect of His gift of salvation that we are experiencing in the present.
I believe that the whole Bible is true, so I do not interpret any part of it as being contrary to another part. I try to support my beliefs with Scripture as thoroughly as I can, so if you think that I'm leaving out verses that do not confirm to my beliefs, then please bring them up. I have no claimed that anyone is saved from brith. In Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so the way to believe in what Jesus spent his ministry teaching by word and by example and in what he accomplished through the cross is by repenting and becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to God's law (Acts 21:20).
Sin is what is contrary to God's character traits, such as with unrighteousness being sin and sin is the transgression of God's law because it was given to teach us how to teach us how to be a doer of God's character traits. God's character traits are eternal, so any instructions that God has given for how to be a doer of His character traits are therefore also eternal, such as with God's righteousness being eternal (Psalms 119:142), therefore all of God's righteous laws are eternal (Psalms 119:160). Sin was in the word before the law was given because people could act in a way that was contrary to God's character before they had been given instructions to refrain from doing that, but unrighteousness can't exist before there existed a law that defines how to be a doer of unrighteousness regardless of when that law was given.