Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[LifelongLearner]

You have been listening to the wrong voice.

Are you saying Jesus would approve of trolls? if so, you have been listening to the wrong voice.

 

[LifelongLearner]

You are a bitter old lady.

Says a little troll when all people need to do, is look at our comment history, to see you wouldn't know truth if it bit your rear. Also, you need others to back you up even against an old lady, i can stand up for myself.

Which trolls can't bear.

 

[SaysWhat]

Are you saying Jesus would approve of trolls? if so, you have been listening to the wrong voice.

Thats not what you said, be honest for once.

Jesus can be a friend to someone and not approve of what they are doing.

Luke 7:34
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look at this glutton and drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’

 

[LifelongLearner]

Thats not what you said, be honest for once.

Jesus can be a friend to someone and not approve of what they are doing.

Honestly, you asking someone else to be honest, are words that should choke you, cognitive dissonance abounds.

 

[Genez]

Says a little troll when all people need to do, is look at our comment history, to see you wouldn't know truth if it bit your rear. Also, you need others to back you up even against an old lady, i can stand up for myself.

Which trolls can't bear.

Stop being bitter...

Hebrews 12:15

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See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God, and that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many. ​

Your presence in the forum defiles us if we are not careful with you...

Stop blaming others for your misery!

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[SaysWhat]

Honestly, you asking someone else to be honest, are words that should choke you, cognitive dissonance abounds.

Your all about diversion, I've figured out your spirit.

Yes Jesus can be friends with sinners.

 

[LifelongLearner]

Thats not what you said, be honest for once.

Jesus can be a friend to someone and not approve of what they are doing.

Luke 7:34
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look at this glutton and drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’

Also, only 2 of the many comments you have posted since Feb 17th, have been posted in threads other than mine. It isn't cast iron proof of trolling but is a known indicator of the behaviour.

This is my post but even i have posted many comments in other threads.

 

[LifelongLearner]

Your all about diversion, I've figured out your spirit.

Yes Jesus can be friends with sinners.

Oh bless, you accusing someone else of being all about diversion is either brilliant irony, or a total lack of self awareness.

Don't care which one, it made me crack up laughing.

 

[LifelongLearner]

Rats! Forgot i was playing chess...............

 

[SaysWhat]

Also, only 2 of the many comments you have posted since Feb 17th, have been posted in threads other than mine. It isn't cast iron proof of trolling but is a known indicator of the behaviour.

This is my post but even i have posted many comments in other threads.

You are definitely delusional to the max if you think that. It doesn't even make any sense. So everyone who only post once in awhile are trolls. Your ridiculous and have zero couth.

 

[SaysWhat]

Oh bless, you accusing someone else of being all about diversion is either brilliant irony, or a total lack of self awareness.

Don't care which one, it made me crack up laughing.

I apologized to you and I have no doubt you laughed about it. You got a chilly heart. Cold as the winter snow.

 

[LifelongLearner]

You are definitely delusional to the max if you think that. It doesn't even make any sense. So everyone who only post once in awhile are trolls. Your ridiculous and have zero couth.

Don't be stupid, you've posted 55 comments since Feb 17th, 52 of which are on this thread, only 3 elsewhere.

 

[LifelongLearner]

I apologized to you and I have no doubt you laughed about it. You got a chilly heart. Cold as the winter snow.

An apology is something i'd appreciate, real apologies if i've missed it. However, the trolling on this thread has been relentless and i've really had enough of it.

 

[SaysWhat]

Don't be stupid, you've posted 55 comments since Feb 17th, 52 of which are on this thread, only 3 elsewhere.

You are really strange to go and count people's activity. You've got to be missing some marbles to do stupid stuff like that. Because it doesn't say anything about who the person is, that's you making up stuff to justify your action.

 

[LifelongLearner]

You are really strange to go and count people's activity.

Necessary when you're investigating a probable troll for troll like behaviour. The evidence abounds in your comments.

 

[JimiSurvivor]

So you think when the unbelievers are raised and stand before the Great White Throne they will all change their minds and accept the Lord as their Saviour? Or maybe x time in the lake of fire will change their mind? Do you think if there was any chance of those who go to the l.o.f. would at some point repent and believe, the Lord would banish them there forever?

Those in the lake of fire aren't reaping what they sowed, they are being given exactly what they wanted, no God.
The wages of sin is not eternal punishment, it is death. Christ paid that price on the Cross. The lake of fire is reserved for those who will never repent and believe.

The OP has argued that volition is the source of both choice and agency (power) but it is not the source of power. Even God's power is not sourced from His will but from His Word. If power came from volition then no-one would go to the lake of fire because God wants all men to be saved and to know the truth.

1 Timothy 2:4
who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

1. Do you think if there was any chance of those who go to the l.o.f. would at some point repent and believe, the Lord would banish them there forever?
So you think turning men's heart to the Father can be accomplished by merely inflicting pain on them? When my father inflicted sadistic punishments on me, I assure you that did not draw me closer to him. Revelation affirms that pain, even when inflicted on men by God can actually drive them away from Him:

10 And the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness, and men began to gnaw their tongues in anguish 11 and curse the God of heaven for their pains and sores; yet they did not repent of their deeds.…
(Revelation 16:10)

Those in the lake of fire aren't reaping what they sowed, they are being given exactly what they wanted, no God.
The wages of sin is not eternal punishment, it is death. Christ paid that price on the Cross. The lake of fire is reserved for those who will never repent and believe.

Those whose end up in the lake of fire did not WANT to reap the consequences. They wanted to "sow to the flesh" without suffering ANY consequence. They deceived themselves into believing they would never have any penalty for it.

7 Do not be deceived: God is not to be mocked. Whatever a man sows, he will reap in return. 8 The one who sows to please his flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; but the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap ETERNAL LIFE.…
(Galatians 6:7-8)

 

[SaysWhat]

An apology is something i'd appreciate, real apologies if i've missed it. However, the trolling on this thread has been relentless and i've really had enough of it.

You didn't miss it, I quoted you and you got the notice of it.

 

[SaysWhat]

Necessary when you're investigating a probable troll for troll like behaviour. The evidence abounds in your comments.

What are you the cc troll police, that's childish

 

[LifelongLearner]

You didn't miss it, I quoted you and you got the notice of it.

Will say i'm unsure as i can't take your word for it, however, my memory is good but not perfect so i don't know. However, an apology is nice but stopping the trolling is what's needed.

 

[LifelongLearner]

What are you the cc troll police, that's childish

You can't stop trolling, it's up to other people what they do about your trolling on their threads, i have told you many times to stop trolling on mine. The irony of you being miffed about me checking out the evidence of it is gobsmacking, you think you should be allowed to infest people's threads with your unpleasantness and they just put up with it?

I won't complain about your trolling if you don't troll.