God had given us a commandment the Tithes & Offerings. How people today followed the commandment?

[Genez]

If you would, please share with us how God is pleased with us cheerfully giving of the primary, largest share of one's "giving" into something from which each "giver" reaps direct benefit by way of the luxuries that "giving" affords for them.
MM

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For exegetical teaching you may like this read.... GIVING: GIMMICK OR GRACE?

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[Kroogz]

If you would, please share with us how God is pleased with us cheerfully giving of the primary, largest share of one's "giving" into something from which each "giver" reaps direct benefit by way of the luxuries that "giving" affords for them.

When one gives to the poor on the street or across the oceans, what benefit does he or she reap from that REAL giving on this earth, in this life, other than the treasures stored up in Heaven by giving to REAL needs rather than paying one's expected dues to a church club, like the Moose Lodge pays their dues?

There's necessity and then there's luxuries.

Oh, yes, those institutions do have some benevolent outreaches and/or "missionary" support as band-aids to the consciences of the parishioners, yes, but the horrid mar upon the surface of that monolith that reaches up into the sky to the peaks of their spires, there's a demon in every pew or chair laughing at the sheepdom bondage to which the mere audience is entangled while enjoying their warm little fuzzies as they walk out, flipping off their "worship" switch, only to turn it back on the next time they walk back into their over-priced edifice of four walls to go through the motions of the program once more, and plop that money into the passing plate again and again, thinking they're "giving to God."

How cheesy and pathetic it all is...

MM

Seems to me that @Genez is essentially saying the same as you?

 

[Godsgood]

DEUTORONOMY 14:22-23

22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

23 And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.

We are trying to find the Truth if the people today is obeying the Law in Tithes & Offerings

If we follow the law in Literal Physical, there are some reasons appeared such as:

* The Law was given to the farmers only
* The crops were converted into different currencies.
* The Law was given to the Ancient Israel only.

**Therefore people who are not farmers are not covered by this law. But the law of God is for everybody and not just for a different groups or sectors of people.

** Poor people who have a very very minimal income could not give the 10% of their income. How they fulfill the law?

** Ancient Israel in the Old Testament can only read in the Bible but not in the World History.

What I observed, the people today is following the Law in Tithes & Offerings in Literal Physical which seems is not appropriate.

 

[Musicmaster]

Tithing is not for the Church age.
Might as well try to teach what the correct procedure for offering a lamb at the Temple.

Well said. Now if only the false teaching "pastors" would stop vomiting their filth to impressionable and downright gullible congregations of people too lazy to read their Bibles for themselves...

MM

 

[Musicmaster]

Seems to me that @Genez is essentially saying the same as you?

My soap box collapsed from under me... I just like to speak strongly about such horridly false teachings that have gone on for FAR too long through the centuries. This garbage became so deeply entrenched as one of many things handed down to Protestantism from Roman Catholicism, which is why I tell Protestants that they are FAR more Roman Catholic in practice and even doctrine than what most of them are aware.

MM

 

[Dino246]

We are trying to find the Truth if the people today is obeying the Law in Tithes & Offerings

If we follow the law in Literal Physical, there are some reasons appeared such as:

* The Law was given to the farmers only
* The crops were converted into different currencies.
* The Law was given to the Ancient Israel only.

**Therefore people who are not farmers are not covered by this law. But the law of God is for everybody and not just for a different groups or sectors of people.

** Poor people who have a very very minimal income could not give the 10% of their income. How they fulfill the law?

** Ancient Israel in the Old Testament can only read in the Bible but not in the World History.

What I observed, the people today is following the Law in Tithes & Offerings in Literal Physical which seems is not appropriate.

The Law was given to ancient Israel, not to the Christian Church. There is no need to concern yourself about how to follow the Law today. Just get on with following and serving Jesus.

 

[Dino246]

Well said. Now if only the false teaching "pastors" would stop vomiting their filth to impressionable and downright gullible congregations of people too lazy to read their Bibles for themselves...

MM

That covers most of them. The worse situation is where whole congregations—elders, staff, and long-term congregants—are all on board with the error. Then it’s time to leave.

 

[Musicmaster]

That covers most of them. The worse situation is where whole congregations—elders, staff, and long-term congregants—are all on board with the error. Then it’s time to leave.

I've seen the posts through the years where someone with a grandiose vocabulary brow-beat most into silence while speaking in seemingly deep terms and concepts about the Tithe commands in Torah too unfathomable to the common man or woman, and they use that force of words to convince people of concepts not at all in the writings of the language of scripture, even to the level of the Masoretic Hebrew nor the Greek of the Septuagint, things that simply aren't even in the original languages, such as the idea that wage earners were allegedly ALSO required to hand over a tithe of their monetary wages; whether it be pieces of silver or any other representation of currency common for us in trade, which is what we do today. Most today don't barter, but that too is alive and well even today and none of that was ever under the requirement for tithing.

What the tithe hounds fail to consider is the basis for tithing. Think about it...Who REALLY is in charge of all increase from crops and livestock? Who created the means by which one wheat berry produces 40 times more of them, by way of the rains that same Creator provided? Who created that mechanism of reproduction within the animal kingdom to double and triple herds and flocks each year?

Now, who is in charge of the agreements for wages from labor between laborer and employer? YOU, and ME. We negotiate the exchange. Nowhere does scripture define wages as a form of "increase" because it is a direct exchange of currency or products for labor.

The Lord spoke about how He would use the simple things to confound the wise...which includes those who deceive others by way of brow-beating rhetoric that has NO correlations within scripture to the point of actually establishing, as historic fact, the idea that the ancients tithed from even their wages. Pure ignorance of even the simplest of concepts keeps the alleged "wise" from escaping their own stupidity and resulting falsehoods.

I'm just speaking generally here on the basis of conversations I've had through the years with those types who are of that yellow stripe down their backs. All one can do is shake their heads...

MM

 

[Dino246]

I've seen the posts through the years where someone with a grandiose vocabulary brow-beat most into silence while speaking in seemingly deep terms and concepts about the Tithe commands in Torah too unfathomable to the common man or woman, and they use that force of words to convince people of concepts not at all in the writings of the language of scripture, even to the level of the Masoretic Hebrew nor the Greek of the Septuagint, things that simply aren't even in the original languages, such as the idea that wage earners were allegedly ALSO required to hand over a tithe of their monetary wages; whether it be pieces of silver or any other representation of currency common for us in trade, which is what we do today. Most today don't barter, but that too is alive and well even today and none of that was ever under the requirement for tithing.

What the tithe hounds fail to consider is the basis for tithing. Think about it...Who REALLY is in charge of all increase from crops and livestock? Who created the means by which one wheat berry produces 40 times more of them, by way of the rains that same Creator provided? Who created that mechanism of reproduction within the animal kingdom to double and triple herds and flocks each year?

Now, who is in charge of the agreements for wages from labor between laborer and employer? YOU, and ME. We negotiate the exchange. Nowhere does scripture define wages as a form of "increase" because it is a direct exchange of currency or products for labor.

The Lord spoke about how He would use the simple things to confound the wise...which includes those who deceive others by way of brow-beating rhetoric that has NO correlations within scripture to the point of actually establishing, as historic fact, the idea that the ancients tithed from even their wages. Pure ignorance of even the simplest of concepts keeps the alleged "wise" from escaping their own stupidity and resulting falsehoods.

I'm just speaking generally here on the basis of conversations I've had through the years with those types who are of that yellow stripe down their backs. All one can do is shake their heads...

MM

We may approach this topic from slightly different perspectives but I think we are in complete agreement. 😎