A call for unity and love

[GWH]

Thank you, can you tell us how to find this info on this site for future Please.

On my Profile "About" page.

Or in the first two lessons on our website <truthseekersfellowship.com>

 

[Jordon]

Re "there's so many ways a passage can be interpreted": Yes, due to MFW,
and GRFS is seeking/loving its Truth.

I know, but on the same there's also a chance we can get it wrong to, even the most grounded of people in the word make mistake, I have liked sone of what you wrote, I just haven't got the time at present to do a full study, I would like to at some point, I feel there's much we can learn from a discussion like this, my short answer of ok was just a thanks for explaining your position, but it's all good

 

[GWH]

I know, but on the same there's also a chance we can get it wrong to, even the most grounded of people in the word make mistake, I have liked sone of what you wrote, I just haven't got the time at present to do a full study, I would like to at some point, I feel there's much we can learn from a discussion like this, my short answer of ok was just a thanks for explaining your position, but it's all good

I understand; retirement has its advantages.

 

[Jordon]

I understand; retirement has its advantages.

That's funny but my retirement will likey never include a day off , but that's ok as I want to be running marathons at 100 years old

Well at least that how it is at the moment, But lately I've been trying to beat world records with my sim racing new rig set up, it's been a burning ambition to beat world records, but it takes time to get use to a new rig so I'm putting in extra time to get ready for next moths online world races.

Once I'm back up to speed I'll have more time to carry on in a proper study, but I will reply soon in short some more to your posts

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Understood, it's always good to find out our beliefs and understandings, as your right there's so much confusion, I always find getting into a discussion about personal belief should always be on the bases you can trust and have reassurance from the person your talking with concerning your faith and understandings, , it's always good when you can find confidence in people, especially in matters like this.

These subjects are so sensitive to people.

Yes faith is a very personal heart felt thing and convictions we hold can be strong . In the end I truly feel discussions like this are guided by the intent and conduct of the participants . Simply because we are humans with feelings and sensitivities about these subjects many have been taught certain versions of from youth

 

[GWH]

That's funny but my retirement will likey never include a day off , but that's ok as I want to be running marathons at 100 years old

Well at least that how it is at the moment, But lately I've been trying to beat world records with my sim racing new rig set up, it's been a burning ambition to beat world records, but it takes time to get use to a new rig so I'm putting in extra time to get ready for next moths online world races.

Once I'm back up to speed I'll have more time to carry on in a proper study, but I will reply soon in short some more to your posts

Well, good luck racing with whatever a "sim racing new rig set up" is!
(guess I need to google it :^)

 

[Ouch]

On my Profile "About" page.

Or in the first two lessons on our website <truthseekersfellowship.com>

Thank you, just to let you know Love the mountains in the background, but it's hard for me to see the wording due to them.

 

[Ouch]

The issue I see most in debates is that everyone goes into debates to prove something not learn and many have opinions on what scripture says but that is all it is their opinions scripture can be twisted to say anything we want but if we just take it at face value and let go of our ego then it is clear what it is saying

But we have to understand that debates are not to argue with one another but to learn and to teach each other

AMEN, I don't argue with people because it's not about me.

I do question when their opinon doens't line up with HIS word, my goal is for them to look for them selves and find out they are wrong on their own.

Like say this prayer and your saved, just show me and I will believe it also.

Pride is a terrible thing, that is why JESUS says in Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

GOD BLESS YOU.

 

[Blain]

AMEN, I don't argue with people because it's not about me.

I do question when their opinon doens't line up with HIS word, my goal is for them to look for them selves and find out they are wrong on their own.

Like say this prayer and your saved, just show me and I will believe it also.

Pride is a terrible thing, that is why JESUS says in Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

GOD BLESS YOU.

Indeed well said

 

[GWH]

Thank you, just to let you know Love the mountains in the background, but it's hard for me to see the wording due to them.

Okay, thanks for the feedback. I will get my site administrator to see what he can do.

 

[Jordon]

Well, good luck racing with whatever a "sim racing new rig set up" is!
(guess I need to google it :^)

lol it's my sim racing driving gear for online car racing SIM rig known as a racing simulator that simulates a real life racing car.

Mine is the real deal and feels. ike your driving a real car even to the point where you feel the full forces through the seat of your pants and the wheel, its such the ride.

I've just finished setting it up finally

I Have to live upto my online racing name flying Saint

 

[Jordon]

lol it's my sim racing driving gear for online car racing SIM rig known as a racing simulator that simulates a real life racing car.

Mine is the real deal and feels. ike your driving a real car even to the point where you feel the full forces through the seat of your pants and the wheel, its such the ride.

I've just finished setting it up finally

I Have to live upto my online racing name flying Saint

with the vr head set on its mind blowing lol

 

[GWH]

lol it's my sim racing driving gear for online car racing SIM rig known as a racing simulator that simulates a real life racing car.

Mine is the real deal and feels. ike your driving a real car even to the point where you feel the full forces through the seat of your pants and the wheel, its such the ride.

I've just finished setting it up finally

I Have to live upto my online racing name flying Saint

Hmm. It sounds like something my son could be interested in, so I will tell him about this.

 

[Jordon]

Hmm. It sounds like something my son could be interested in, so I will tell him about this.

yeah the kids love it, including me, a big kid at heart to but mostly younger kids have difficulty using them, they are just like driving a real race car in life, everything is the same these days with technology advancing you can drive Simulators exactly like you would a real life race car the performance braking acceleration cornering speed all the same these days, which is why many real life pro drivers use them to this month I'm aiming to beat my rivals when I replied ok to you I was setting it up lol

It's a favourite hobby of mine, and in real life to I'm a semipro racing driver.

When I get some more time i would like like to carry on with our discussion.

I feal it's worthy of a real good discussion and study, but work has me doing night shifts at the moment to, I would like to discuss God's sovereignty and his omnipresence some more here, it's always a subjective Ive found interesting.

Bye for now

 

[GWH]

I wanted to sort of make a reminder that we as brothers and sisters in Christ are called for unity and love for one another. I am aware there are differences in opinions and doctrinal understanding but we can disagree with love

Certain topics such as free will and predestination and the likes tend to bring out strife among us

1 Thessalonians 5:11 emphasizes mutual encouragement and building up, saying, "Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing". Romans 14:19 highlights the pursuit of peace and building up, stating, "Let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding". Hebrews 3:13 encourages daily encouragement to prevent hardening of hearts, urging, "But encourage one another daily

I would love nothing more than to see this with each other and to see this site become one of love and light a reminder of what Christs love does in the hearts of those who carry his name

Sorry for getting off topic, Blain.
Again, I appreciate your appeal for love and spiritual oneness.
I try to end discussion before it becomes divisive quarrelling.
To any I have offended, I apologize and request both forgiveness
and gentle reproof, so that I can improve my communicating.
LIC, GWH

 

[Blain]

Sorry for getting off topic, Blain.
Again, I appreciate your appeal for love and spiritual oneness.
I try to end discussion before it becomes divisive quarrelling.
To any I have offended, I apologize and request both forgiveness
and gentle reproof, so that I can improve my communicating.
LIC, GWH

I also appreciate you making an appeal for unity as you have
The thing about discussion boards is that you have such a diverse set of people that communicate differently, are at differently stages of their faith and maturity and have different mind sets but even with all of this if we can at least find some common ground with each other it would really help bring unity to the body of Christ

 

[Intersection]

I also appreciate you making an appeal for unity as you have
The thing about discussion boards is that you have such a diverse set of people that communicate differently, are at differently stages of their faith and maturity and have different mind sets but even with all of this if we can at least find some common ground with each other it would really help bring unity to the body of Christ

 

[Blain]

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Again why post this? what is the point you are trying to make

 

[GWH]

I also appreciate you making an appeal for unity as you have
The thing about discussion boards is that you have such a diverse set of people that communicate differently, are at differently stages of their faith and maturity and have different mind sets but even with all of this if we can at least find some common ground with each other it would really help bring unity to the body of Christ

Yes, and that common ground or Christian creed is what I seek to find and what I share thusly:

The normative way of stating the kerygma/GRFS in the NT is “Accept Christ Jesus as Lord” (as in 2Cor. 4:5 & Col. 2:6). The main points of Christian orthodoxy implicit in this credal statement can be explained or elaborated as follows:

1. There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or God (Deut. 6:4, John 3:16, 2Thes. 1:6), who is both able (2Tim. 1:12) and willing (1Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.
2. Human beings are selfish or sinful (Rom. 3:23, 2Tim. 3:2-4, Col. 3:5), miserable (Gal. 5:19-21), and hopeless (Eph. 2:12) or hell-bound at the judgment (Matt. 23:33 & 25:46) when they reject God’s salvation (John 3:18, Rom. 2:5-11).
3. Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (John 3:16, Acts 16:30-31, Phil. 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (Rom. 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1Cor. 15:14-28).
4. Thus, every person who hears the NT Gospel needs to repent and accept God’s grace or justification in Jesus as Christ/Messiah the Lord or Supreme Commander (Luke 2:11, John 14:6, Acts 16:31), which means trying to obey His commandment to love one another (Matt. 22:37-40, John 13:35, Rom. 13:9)—forever (Matt. 10:22, Psa. 113:2).
5. Then God’s Holy Spirit will establish a saving relationship with all who truly accept/love Him (Rev. 3:20) that will eventually achieve heaven after Christ returns when by means of persevering in learning Truth/God’s Word/sanctification everyone cooperates fully with His will (John 14:6, 17&26, Rom. 8:6-17, Gal. 6:7-9, Eph. 1:13-14, Heb. 10:36, 12:1, Jam. 1:2-4).

 

[GWH]

Yes, and that common ground or Christian creed is what I seek to find and what I share thusly:

The normative way of stating the kerygma/GRFS in the NT is “Accept Christ Jesus as Lord” (as in 2Cor. 4:5 & Col. 2:6). The main points of Christian orthodoxy implicit in this credal statement can be explained or elaborated as follows:

1. There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or God (Deut. 6:4, John 3:16, 2Thes. 1:6), who is both able (2Tim. 1:12) and willing (1Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.
2. Human beings are selfish or sinful (Rom. 3:23, 2Tim. 3:2-4, Col. 3:5), miserable (Gal. 5:19-21), and hopeless (Eph. 2:12) or hell-bound at the judgment (Matt. 23:33 & 25:46) when they reject God’s salvation (John 3:18, Rom. 2:5-11).
3. Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (John 3:16, Acts 16:30-31, Phil. 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (Rom. 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1Cor. 15:14-28).
4. Thus, every person who hears the NT Gospel needs to repent and accept God’s grace or justification in Jesus as Christ/Messiah the Lord or Supreme Commander (Luke 2:11, John 14:6, Acts 16:31), which means trying to obey His commandment to love one another (Matt. 22:37-40, John 13:35, Rom. 13:9)—forever (Matt. 10:22, Psa. 113:2).
5. Then God’s Holy Spirit will establish a saving relationship with all who truly accept/love Him (Rev. 3:20) that will eventually achieve heaven after Christ returns when by means of persevering in learning Truth/God’s Word/sanctification everyone cooperates fully with His will (John 14:6, 17&26, Rom. 8:6-17, Gal. 6:7-9, Eph. 1:13-14, Heb. 10:36, 12:1, Jam. 1:2-4).

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