Women should "Shaddup Your Face"

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kayem77

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my question is what woman in her right mind would want to preach to a bunch of smelly men anyways?

sorry guys I love you but I just sit here wondering what the appeal is.

come on women can't teach men how to be mature men in God anymore then a man can teach a women to be mature women in God. Men can fool themselves and think they are teaching women something but I have found I learn more about life and living in a godly manner from the older female women in the church and following their example. If I have a question about life I would talk to the pastor's wife before I would talk to the pastor. If I had a question about doctrine and theology I would talk to the pastor about it.

I think that is why the Bible says the bishop (or what we call the head pastor) should be married to one wife who is godly and wise as well, because then that gives the women someone to talk to about women things. A single man would not be able to counsel a mixed group of both men and women. there are just some things you can't tell a man. so its not just the pastor but the pastor wife who helps the pastor do his work by being a support and godly womanly example to others.

When it comes to matters of the heart I seek the counsel of women. When it comes to the matter of the mind or intellect or more specifically theology concerning the Bible, I seek the counsel of a trained pastor or minister. funny thing is that God has only placed men in that role in my life. I talk to some women about intellectual things too but its interesting to get varying outlooks upon different situations that might arise in life. I love women Bible studies and various ministries within the church and I find a lot of women working behind the scenes that often go unnoticed and undervalued but you know what?

God notices. He even tells us we are more precious for being hidden and protected and covered by our men. People so often think that women have a less honorable part to play but its not true. I always considered women and our prayers the "unpresentable parts" of the church hidden and protected from the glaring criticism of the world who does not understand and who seek to destroy the mysteries God have entrusted us with.

1 corinthians 12
22 No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary. 23 And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty, 24 but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, 25 that there should be no schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.


I personally don't have anything against female pastors. I have meet a few who seem to be wonderful ladies seeking to do good works. I don't have anything against Muslims, Buddhist or atheist either. Some of them do good works and help a lot of people.

However, it is not what I have against them but what GOD has against them that should concern everyone involved. that is what makes my heart sad. the rebellion against God and His commandments.

anyways that's my rant.

That's awesome Ananda :) ! And I never thought of those verses like that..thanks for sharing. God bless you.
 
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Abiding

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when is it my turn? can i shaddup my face yet?
are woman so special? why cant i do it, huh?
 

cronjecj

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Gotta look at it in context. What day and age was that written. What was the culture like in those times and what was expected of women? Since then there has been the feminist culture and women have been given their voice. While the Bible is correct, it is also to be used in the current context which applies. (I'm not saying misuse the scriptures for whatever situation you're in) but I think we should all shut up in church and listen. No man or woman should speak. But if you want to raise your opinion, do it. God is a God of the 21st century. He understands our current society and like that's why we have Jesus, so we can all speak to God. We're all allowed to preach in church, God is using men and women these days. When reading the Bible just remember what time it was written in and also its context with regards to society. And don't tell me to shaddup my face ;D lol
Ey another newby from sa, shaddup your face :)
 

Dude653

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Yet again, add verse 33, and it's IN CONTEXT...



1 Corinthians 14:33-35
"For God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."


I like this broken record approach to posting, being super repetitive in the hopes that if we say something enough times, everyone else will eventually get the picture...

It's worked so well for others so far...

:rolleyes:

oh,,, the LAW,,, you mean the law that Christ died to free us from??
 
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MissCris

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oh,,, the LAW,,, you mean the law that Christ died to free us from??
1 Corinthians comes after Christ's crucifixion. That tells me we are still to obey what it tells us, that we are NOT freed from THAT. Also...

1 Corinthians 14:36-38- "Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored."

Funny how that follows directly after the order that women remain silent in the churches.

If you still feel that was directed ONLY to THAT particular church, there is also this:

1 Corinthians 1:2-3- "To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ-their Lord and ours: Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ."
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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I would shuddaa up my face, but it sounds painful
 

Dude653

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If you still feel that was directed ONLY to THAT particular church, there is also this:

1 Corinthians 1:2-3- "To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ-their Lord and ours: Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ."[/quote]

This verse says nothing about women being silent. it speaks of unity.. so yep... still taken out of context
 
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MissCris

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...that's the beginning of the chapter in which women are told to be silent. Meaning, everything FOLLOWING that verse, everything following the beginning of the chapter, was written to the church in Corinth, AND to ALL THOSE EVERYWHERE who call on the name of our Lord...

Excuse me a moment, I'm going to go beat my head on the wall.
 
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If you still feel that was directed ONLY to THAT particular church, there is also this:

1 Corinthians 1:2-3- "To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ-their Lord and ours: Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ."
This verse says nothing about women being silent. it speaks of unity.. so yep... still taken out of context[/QUOTE]

the bible pretty much confuses you I see. Aint that a bummer?
 

Dude653

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This verse says nothing about women being silent. it speaks of unity.. so yep... still taken out of context
the bible pretty much confuses you I see. Aint that a bummer?
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No offense brother. but you confuse me......
 

cronjecj

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If you still feel that was directed ONLY to THAT particular church, there is also this:

1 Corinthians 1:2-3- "To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ-their Lord and ours: Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ."
This verse says nothing about women being silent. it speaks of unity.. so yep... still taken out of context[/quote]

And this:

1 Corinthians 14: 33-35
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission,
as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home;
for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.
 
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Abiding

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the bible pretty much confuses you I see. Aint that a bummer?
No offense brother. but you confuse me......[/QUOTE]

I dont think you can blame that on me. 1 cor has been explained to you slowly 3 times this week
and it didnt have the slightest effect. You still call people haters. We hate what? Explain please.
Maybe we should hate. If its righteous hate.
 

cronjecj

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the bible pretty much confuses you I see. Aint that a bummer?
No offense brother. but you confuse me......[/quote]

No offense dude but i think you confuse yourself.
 

Dude653

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No offense brother. but you confuse me......
I dont think you can blame that on me. 1 cor has been explained to you slowly 3 times this week
and it didnt have the slightest effect. You still call people haters. We hate what? Explain please.
Maybe we should hate. If its righteous hate.[/quote]
I hate mayonaise but i'm not gonna go around preaching against it
 
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I dont think you can blame that on me. 1 cor has been explained to you slowly 3 times this week
and it didnt have the slightest effect. You still call people haters. We hate what? Explain please.
Maybe we should hate. If its righteous hate.
I hate mayonaise but i'm not gonna go around preaching against it[/QUOTE]

Yes you are. You want everyone to love and have unity with mayonnaise. Even if its rotten mayonnaise.
 
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Dude653

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I hate mayonaise but i'm not gonna go around preaching against it
Yes you are. You want everyone to love and have unity with mayonnaise. Even if its rotten mayonnaise.[/quote]
ok then,,,you made me do this... Mayonaise is an abomination and must be destroyed at all costs!!!!!
 
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MissCris

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(Please read carefully)

I'm going to do this one more time, as clearly as possible.

And slowly.

And then I quit :rolleyes:

Start with this:


"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." - Matthew 5:17-18


"To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ-their Lord and ours" - 1 Corinthians 1:2

"For God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored." -1 Corinthians 14:33-38

This is as clear as it gets. It follows Jesus' own words that the Law is still in effect and to be obeyed, it follows the greeting to not just the church in Corinth but to all those everywhere, and it is entirely in context.

Women are to SHADDUP IN CHURCH.

And we don't mind!!


:)
 

cronjecj

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(Please read carefully)

I'm going to do this one more time, as clearly as possible.

And slowly.

And then I quit :rolleyes:

Start with this:


"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." - Matthew 5:17-18


"To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ-their Lord and ours" - 1 Corinthians 1:2

"For God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored." -1 Corinthians 14:33-38

This is as clear as it gets. It follows Jesus' own words that the Law is still in effect and to be obeyed, it follows the greeting to not just the church in Corinth but to all those everywhere, and it is entirely in context.

Women are to SHADDUP IN CHURCH.

And we don't mind!!


:)
Brilliant!