The Error is Baptism in Jesus name only for salvation

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NightTwister said:
Using logical fallacies is avoiding the question. Answering them is a fool's errand.
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We are responsible to answer biblical questions, how can we answer them if we don't know ourselves?

The answer is in HIS word, we just have to find it.

I have noticed when people believe a certain way it's hard to come off of it.

We all have choices to make, best of luck.
 
Ouch said:
We are responsible to answer biblical questions, how can we answer them if we don't know ourselves?

The answer is in HIS word, we just have to find it.

I have noticed when people believe a certain way it's hard to come off of it.

We all have choices to make, best of luck.
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I'm not "responsible" to answer anything. But it's certain I'm not going to answer logical fallacies because those are not biblical questions.
 
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BillG said:
Goodbye as well.

You came on here with a question and you are the one who has gone off.

Read the topic of the threat and think.

THE ERROR IN BAPTISM ONLY IN JESUS NAME ONLY FOR SALVATION.

WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO YOU??????
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Kinda had the same experience. ;)
 
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Blue155 said:
Lol.
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Posted on this thread to someone.

My question to you!

"You tell ME what a person has to do to be saved. Please make it VERY CLEAR using scripture."

YOU gave me HIS word, I did not ask you to share HIS WORD I asked you WHAT DO A PERSON HAVE TO DO TO BE SAVED!!

Do you know what happens to people WHO ADD OR TAKE AWAY HIS WORD? YOU DO NOW.

Revelation 22:18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Your OPINOIN of HIS WORD is USLESS and you will be held responsible for the words that come out of your mouth.

IT'S NOT to late, you can repent, get baptized in JESUS name to get rid of your sins, and JESUS promised to fill you with his spirit.

What does the above say?
 
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HeIsHere said:
Agree, also people jump into a the thread, not realizing the thread has been all over the place.
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There is a distinction between discussing and arguing in a combative spirit. It seems the majority of online convos is the latter, and I want no part of that anymore. Good day.
 
NightTwister said:
I'm not "responsible" to answer anything. But it's certain I'm not going to answer logical fallacies because those are not biblical questions.
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You may not be, but I am.

1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

We will be heald accoutable for EVERY word out of our mouth.

Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Since HIS word is clear on how we get rid of our sins, you better make sure your thinking line up with HIS word.

Looks to me like you have two issues, both involving how we get baptized.

One who's name do we call on, the second is imersion or sprinking.

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Your walk is between you and JESUS best of luck.
 
Ouch said:
You may not be, but I am.

1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

We will be heald accoutable for EVERY word out of our mouth.

Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Since HIS word is clear on how we get rid of our sins, you better make sure your thinking line up with HIS word.

Looks to me like you have two issues, both involving how we get baptized.

One who's name do we call on, the second is imersion or sprinking.

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Your walk is between you and JESUS best of luck.
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Grace and Peace
 
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CS1 said:
Think about what you just said "Don't just share scripture of what JESUS did,"

Not only what he did but what HE said. Did Jesus save you or water baptism. Water or the or the Blood?
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Do you know what we have to do to get rid of our sins?

Since you didn't answer I can only guess you don't accept HIS word.

No resaon for me to share it, you know what it says.

I will answer your questions.

Water baptism does not save us, it's being obedient to HIS word and being baptized in JESUS name that does BUT it's just a part of it.

To be saved we have to repent, we have to realize we are living for Satan and Hell bound and need to turn and follow JESUS.

We need to obey what HIS word says and be baptized in JESUS name for remission of sins HIS RULES NOT MINE.

AND we the last part is for JESUS to fill us with the Holy Ghost, HIS spirit like HE did HIS DISCIPLES in Acts 2:4.

Acts 8, 10 and 19 were examples of all 4 things happening, those verse also show us it could be in different orders.

HE was our lamb, after HE died and rose again HE HIMSELF ascended to Heaven and put HIS OWN blood on the mercy seat.

So to you, the question still remains.

JESUS did all that was required of HIM in the three years HE was with us.

WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO?

HE was responsible for what HE did, we are responsible for what WE DO.
 
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NightTwister said:
Perhaps method would be a better term, but you're just being obstinate to avoid it.
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Method? water Baptism is a Method? Water Baptism in Jesus name only is method or Water Baptism in the name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit also a Method?
I have answered this question more than once all can see that AS I said and will again Water Baptism in Jesus name and water Baptism in the Name of The Father , Son and Holy Spirit are both vial ways to water baptize.
 
Ouch said:
I will reply to your questions when you show me how WE get rid of our sins.

Don't tell me how, show me in HIS word WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
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1 John 1:7
The blood of Jesus has cleansing power to reconcile us from sin. Just as sacrifices were made in the Old Testament, Jesus gave His life and shed His blood for this purpose. According to 1 John 1:7, "the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin".

Ephesians 1:7: "In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace."
Hebrews 9:14: "How much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!"

1 Peter 1:19: "But with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect."
 
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CS1 said:
Method? water Baptism is a Method? Water Baptism in Jesus name only is method or Water Baptism in the name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit also a Method?
I have answered this question more than once all can see that AS I said and will again Water Baptism in Jesus name and water Baptism in the Name of The Father , Son and Holy Spirit are both vial ways to water baptize.
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Dude, try reading. Sprinkle, pour, immerse. That's all I'm talking about. All three are valid.
 
Ouch said:
Do you know what we have to do to get rid of our sins?

Since you didn't answer I can only guess you don't accept HIS word.

No resaon for me to share it, you know what it says.

I will answer your questions.

Water baptism does not save us, it's being obedient to HIS word and being baptized in JESUS name that does BUT it's just a part of it.

To be saved we have to repent, we have to realize we are living for Satan and Hell bound and need to turn and follow JESUS.

We need to obey what HIS word says and be baptized in JESUS name for remission of sins HIS RULES NOT MINE.

AND we the last part is for JESUS to fill us with the Holy Ghost, HIS spirit like HE did HIS DISCIPLES in Acts 2:4.

Acts 8, 10 and 19 were examples of all 4 things happening, those verse also show us it could be in different orders.

HE was our lamb, after HE died and rose again HE HIMSELF ascended to Heaven and put HIS OWN blood on the mercy seat.

So to you, the question still remains.

JESUS did all that was required of HIM in the three years HE was with us.

WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO?

HE was responsible for what HE did, we are responsible for what WE DO.
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It is not my fault you do not understand the meaning of " In the name of" from the KJV which is by the authority of why an act is done or one is sent in representation of one in or has Authority.


There is no example of the method of water Baptism you do not see in scripture any one saying " I baptize you in the name of Jesus and they went down in the water. The method of water Baptism and saying Jesus name only is not even in the word of God.


Forgiveness of sins is by Grace through faith in the Death burial and Resurrection of The Lord Jesus Christ. NOT of works les any man should boast. Repentance, surrendering , obedience and faith. THe word is Preach of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit convicts, one surrending and see their need to be forgiven they repent call on the name of Lord and confess by faith thier trust in the work of the Cross of Christ, they are saved. Water Baptism in the of Jesus or in the name of the F, S, HS which is the authority by which one is baptizing as Most UPC and other pastor say:


"By the authority given to me BY GOD (the name of their denomination is not always said) and by the profession of your faith in Jesus Christ as Lord "I baptize you in"(by the authority) the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit or in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ .

That is water baptism.
 
Ouch said:
Do you know what we have to do to get rid of our sins?

Since you didn't answer I can only guess you don't accept HIS word.

No resaon for me to share it, you know what it says.

I will answer your questions.

Water baptism does not save us, it's being obedient to HIS word and being baptized in JESUS name that does BUT it's just a part of it.

To be saved we have to repent, we have to realize we are living for Satan and Hell bound and need to turn and follow JESUS.

We need to obey what HIS word says and be baptized in JESUS name for remission of sins HIS RULES NOT MINE.

AND we the last part is for JESUS to fill us with the Holy Ghost, HIS spirit like HE did HIS DISCIPLES in Acts 2:4.

Acts 8, 10 and 19 were examples of all 4 things happening, those verse also show us it could be in different orders.

HE was our lamb, after HE died and rose again HE HIMSELF ascended to Heaven and put HIS OWN blood on the mercy seat.

So to you, the question still remains.

JESUS did all that was required of HIM in the three years HE was with us.

WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO?

HE was responsible for what HE did, we are responsible for what WE DO.
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it is not a rule that is a legalistic approach to one of what is known as the ordinances of the church. Oneness did not even come on the sense until the 1913. and was seen as error. there is not one example of the term I baptize you in Jesus' name for something so essential for salvation.
 
Blue155 said:
Naaman’s faith in God healed him when he dipped in the waters of the river Jordan. Apply that to water baptism as someone submits to being immersed into Christ.
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No it does not that is allegorizing Scripture. improper biblical interpretation.
 
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NightTwister said:
Dude, try reading. Sprinkle, pour, immerse. That's all I'm talking about. All three are valid.
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context is need did the priest submerge the lamb they offered up ? Did the priest dip the blood or sprinkler it on the Ark?

they are not saying in the UPC you can be dipped, sprinklered, or immersed in water. They say if you're not in Jesus' name only you are not saved. That is error. Cut it, slice it any way you want. Two verses in the Bibe did not speak on this topic there is more. The UPC refuse to see it. oh well. that is on them.
 
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