Universal Laws of Heavenly Bodies
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Genesis 1
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. 11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 13And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 22And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. 23And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Genesis 2
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. 11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 13And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 22And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. 23And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Genesis 2
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
I don't judge a man by his looks that's very superficial.
I think he is trying to emulate the Napoleonic posture if you noticed, He was probably an admirer of him who knows? Judging by the date of the photograph I would guess what 1880 maybe I don't even know who he is perhaps you can tell me.
of the Royal Institute ('scientists').
nevermind.
I've never met even one professing Christian who believes in geocentricity. Not one. Few denounce ANY scientific fact, though they struggle with cosmology. I don't think this is about Christians and denouncing and little minds and grasping concepts and jiving with scripture.
Either the trigonometry is literal and valid and empirical, or the trigonometry is hypothetical. If it's absolute, answer the question of the baseline absolutely. If, indeed, it's hypothetical, just realize and admit it as such. Simple.
Either the trigonometry is literal and valid and empirical, or the trigonometry is hypothetical. If it's absolute, answer the question of the baseline absolutely. If, indeed, it's hypothetical, just realize and admit it as such. Simple.
Just like any metaphor written in the bible it's all subject to interpretation perhaps a day to God is a billion years and the planet is 4.5 billion according to carbon 14 dating.
Perhaps just maybe when moses was being told all this by God, God had to propound it in a very simplified way so that the common people would be able to Grasp the concept of Creation.
From what I can tell modern science is doing more to prove the biblical scriptures accurate to an unbelievable degree than than any church has for the last 1900 years especially when it comes to the creation of the Universe
Do you Know why it says in the Bible God is in all things and all things are in him?
Here's a hint;
GOD IS THE UNIVERSE
The Alpha and the Omega
every piece of matter every ounce of energy came from him it is his to do with whatever he will. The form or image of God is what he lets us see it is not his entirety.
God in Creation made the Ultimate sacrifice of forever by pouring out his spirit upon the void he made everything from himself it was the ultimate expression of love.
This ideology is mirrored in the cruxifiction when Jesus sacrifices all to save us wretched unworthy sinners with his own blood so that we may not perish from our sins but have everlasting life.
Perhaps this is what God meant when he told us of being luke warm and wanting to spew us out of his mouth?
Perhaps just maybe when moses was being told all this by God, God had to propound it in a very simplified way so that the common people would be able to Grasp the concept of Creation.
From what I can tell modern science is doing more to prove the biblical scriptures accurate to an unbelievable degree than than any church has for the last 1900 years especially when it comes to the creation of the Universe
Do you Know why it says in the Bible God is in all things and all things are in him?
Here's a hint;
GOD IS THE UNIVERSE
The Alpha and the Omega
every piece of matter every ounce of energy came from him it is his to do with whatever he will. The form or image of God is what he lets us see it is not his entirety.
God in Creation made the Ultimate sacrifice of forever by pouring out his spirit upon the void he made everything from himself it was the ultimate expression of love.
This ideology is mirrored in the cruxifiction when Jesus sacrifices all to save us wretched unworthy sinners with his own blood so that we may not perish from our sins but have everlasting life.
Perhaps this is what God meant when he told us of being luke warm and wanting to spew us out of his mouth?
I already did they measuerd it with light waves man and they don't have to bounce off a mirror on a distant world or moon to be calculated.
Since we can verify the speed of light and we can and have with more calculations and methodology than I care to C/P
then we can correctly measure the distance from our planet by using the doppler effect
I said this earlier go to home depot and buy an infrared tape measure it uses the exact same principles as calculating distance to a nearby star or supernova by measuring the difference in the red shift.
Thereby we can accurately calculate the distance to any cellestial body by using this method.
Since we can verify the speed of light and we can and have with more calculations and methodology than I care to C/P
then we can correctly measure the distance from our planet by using the doppler effect
I said this earlier go to home depot and buy an infrared tape measure it uses the exact same principles as calculating distance to a nearby star or supernova by measuring the difference in the red shift.
Thereby we can accurately calculate the distance to any cellestial body by using this method.
Just like any metaphor written in the bible it's all subject to interpretation perhaps a day to God is a billion years and the planet is 4.5 billion according to carbon 14 dating.
Perhaps just maybe when moses was being told all this by God, God had to propound it in a very simplified way so that the common people would be able to Grasp the concept of Creation.
From what I can tell modern science is doing more to prove the biblical scriptures accurate to an unbelievable degree than than any church has for the last 1900 years especially when it comes to the creation of the Universe
Do you Know why it says in the Bible God is in all things and all things are in him?
Here's a hint;
GOD IS THE UNIVERSE
The Alpha and the Omega
every piece of matter every ounce of energy came from him it is his to do with whatever he will. The form or image of God is what he lets us see it is not his entirety.
God in Creation made the Ultimate sacrifice of forever by pouring out his spirit upon the void he made everything from himself it was the ultimate expression of love.
This ideology is mirrored in the cruxifiction when Jesus sacrifices all to save us wretched unworthy sinners with his own blood so that we may not perish from our sins but have everlasting life.
Perhaps this is what God meant when he told us of being luke warm and wanting to spew us out of his mouth?
Perhaps just maybe when moses was being told all this by God, God had to propound it in a very simplified way so that the common people would be able to Grasp the concept of Creation.
From what I can tell modern science is doing more to prove the biblical scriptures accurate to an unbelievable degree than than any church has for the last 1900 years especially when it comes to the creation of the Universe
Do you Know why it says in the Bible God is in all things and all things are in him?
Here's a hint;
GOD IS THE UNIVERSE
The Alpha and the Omega
every piece of matter every ounce of energy came from him it is his to do with whatever he will. The form or image of God is what he lets us see it is not his entirety.
God in Creation made the Ultimate sacrifice of forever by pouring out his spirit upon the void he made everything from himself it was the ultimate expression of love.
This ideology is mirrored in the cruxifiction when Jesus sacrifices all to save us wretched unworthy sinners with his own blood so that we may not perish from our sins but have everlasting life.
Perhaps this is what God meant when he told us of being luke warm and wanting to spew us out of his mouth?
So... Now you're a Pantheist and/or Panentheist?
Well PPS Arius was the one as well as Eusebius that didn't like the Idea of the Metaphorical books being brought into the canon in the first place if you recall because of the inherrent problem of interpretation which could lead to many places that weren't where we were supposed to be going!
MAYBE HE WAS ONTO SOMETHING!
MAYBE HE WAS ONTO SOMETHING!
I personally don't much care what Arius or Eusebius thought, among others.
MAYBE HE WAS ON SOMETHING!
MAYBE HE WAS ON SOMETHING!
Ya see PPS that is the whole problem with the majority of Christians if they can't understand something they dismiss it as heresy.
We thought the world was flat too in 1492 but someone finally came along and corrected the stupidity of those that came before them though they had quite an uphill battle with the church though whose ******* ignorance was the reason for the whole debate anyway
Then we get to Galileo and if he hadn't retracted his ideas he woulda had his head lopped off.
We never knew what an antibiotic was before 1918 or viruses for that matter it was all demons and stuff that caused illness not viral infections and the like.
To be so pigheaded about astrophysics and say that geocentricism is the way it is is the very same as saying the world was flat in the 15th century.
Furthermore to say that the bible is absolutely authoritative on every subject is to put your faith in a book and mens interpretations of scripture not in God and the holyspirit, no amount of psycobabble can prove otherwise.
The scripture is there as a guideline and yes we can look to it for answers on many topics and yes I find it authoritative on many many topics.
But it is not the scripture perse that I argue about at all it's the interpretations of men put on the scripture because of set learning methodology that I find profoundly foolish in some instances.
Anyone today who believes in geocentricity is an utter fool.
I have observed other planets, the moon and other cellestial bodies in the heavens with MY OWN EYES THROUGH A TELESCOPE and nutjobs are trying to tell me that the Sun revolves around the Earth when the Earth is a 1000 times smaller than the sun and it's iron core is at least 20 times the size of the earth, lets do the math then of gravitational force that is exerted on any body by another body due directly to the mass of the larger object exerting its own gravitational field.
It's kind of a cause and effect thing happening and I must have skipped some steps. Pick up a textbook on evolution some day and read it. Then read the bible. Compare the two and see what You come up with. In that same textbook there may even be a philosophy on the big bang, the beginning of the Universe. Read that one too. Then read the bible. You should come up with the same conclusion you get when you compare evolution with the bible. But maybe not.
I assume you are a Christian. Sometimes assuming can be wrong.
I assume you are a Christian. Sometimes assuming can be wrong.
Yep. I only post original humor and sarcasm. No rip-offs.
I understand the subject. I didn't accuse heresy.
I'm not making an issue of any of that.
I haven't said anything. I asked for someone to answer Strange's trig question. You perceive that you did. I've not really said much else.
I didn't make that assertion. I just indicated I'm not a scientific concordist.
I don't see scripture as just being a book of men's interpretations, though. That's why I'm not Sola Scriptura. Scripture simply doesn't address everything. But I am Prima Scriptura. If scripture does address something, it is truth.
Okay. And that's a multi-edged sword of subjectivity. At some point that becomes a Dialectic, which is part and parcel of Communitarianism and the subversion of the Didactic truth it replaces.
I've not taken a position. The evidence is weighing heavily for geocentricity, though. I find the defenses of heliocentricity increasingly contrived.
Respectfully, after experiencing your aversion to original-language scripture texts, I'm left underwhelmed by your processes of reasoning and substantiation.
Your debate isn't really with me, though.
I understand the subject. I didn't accuse heresy.
I'm not making an issue of any of that.
I haven't said anything. I asked for someone to answer Strange's trig question. You perceive that you did. I've not really said much else.
I didn't make that assertion. I just indicated I'm not a scientific concordist.
I don't see scripture as just being a book of men's interpretations, though. That's why I'm not Sola Scriptura. Scripture simply doesn't address everything. But I am Prima Scriptura. If scripture does address something, it is truth.
Okay. And that's a multi-edged sword of subjectivity. At some point that becomes a Dialectic, which is part and parcel of Communitarianism and the subversion of the Didactic truth it replaces.
I've not taken a position. The evidence is weighing heavily for geocentricity, though. I find the defenses of heliocentricity increasingly contrived.
Respectfully, after experiencing your aversion to original-language scripture texts, I'm left underwhelmed by your processes of reasoning and substantiation.
Your debate isn't really with me, though.