Christ in You is the Hope of Glory.
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Begotten is not the same as BORN AGAIN. Jesus is Begotten of God not made.
show me where in scripture it says anyone besides JESUS was BEGOTTEN OF GOD?
i found some scriptures where it says begotten in hope, begotten in Christ, begotten of Paul.
but do you have any verses that say we are Begotten of GOD? or that anyone except JESUS Christ is the ONLY Begotten Son?
why did God not say the FIRST Begotten Son if He meant for there to be others? why does the Bible say ONLY Begotten Son?
there is scripture that says Born Again, having the indwelling Holy Spirit, but where does it say anyone is Begotten of God except in reference to JESUS?
here there are these verses we could out of kindness take into consideration:
1 Corinthians 4:15
For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1 John 4:8-10
New King James Version (NKJV)
8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
born Again:
John 3
5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
I do not know Greek. If you can show me that Begotten of God is the same as being Born again I will apologize but as is I take God's words when He says JESUS is the ONLY Begotten Son and we are Adopted born again in His Spirit.
show me where in scripture it says anyone besides JESUS was BEGOTTEN OF GOD?
i found some scriptures where it says begotten in hope, begotten in Christ, begotten of Paul.
but do you have any verses that say we are Begotten of GOD? or that anyone except JESUS Christ is the ONLY Begotten Son?
why did God not say the FIRST Begotten Son if He meant for there to be others? why does the Bible say ONLY Begotten Son?
there is scripture that says Born Again, having the indwelling Holy Spirit, but where does it say anyone is Begotten of God except in reference to JESUS?
here there are these verses we could out of kindness take into consideration:
1 Corinthians 4:15
For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1 John 4:8-10
New King James Version (NKJV)
8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
born Again:
John 3
5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
I do not know Greek. If you can show me that Begotten of God is the same as being Born again I will apologize but as is I take God's words when He says JESUS is the ONLY Begotten Son and we are Adopted born again in His Spirit.
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did you see my last post? i was trying to edit but a lot happens in five minutes around here...
to really go into what Begotten means is to go into the whole Godhead concept and I'm not sure if you want to do that right now or not.
I think it is enough to say that Begotten and Born Again mean two totally different things.
If what I wrote doesn't make sense to you I can try to clarify
or pray someone else can explain it better and more clearly in words you can understand and pray to God about so HE might reveal His truth.
to really go into what Begotten means is to go into the whole Godhead concept and I'm not sure if you want to do that right now or not.
I think it is enough to say that Begotten and Born Again mean two totally different things.
If what I wrote doesn't make sense to you I can try to clarify
or pray someone else can explain it better and more clearly in words you can understand and pray to God about so HE might reveal His truth.
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Yes a CORRECT reading of 1 Peter 1 would be lovely.
1 Peter 1
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To the pilgrims of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 2 elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ:
Grace to you and peace be multiplied.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, 7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, 8 whom having not seen[a] you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, 9 receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.
10 Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, 11 searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 12 To them it was revealed that, not to themselves, but to us they were ministering the things which now have been reported to you through those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things which angels desire to look into.
13 Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 14 as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance; 15 but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, 16 because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.”[c]
17 And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your stay here in fear; 18 knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot. 20 He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you 21 who through Him believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.
22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit[d] in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, 23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever,[e] 24 because
“ All flesh is as grass,
And all the glory of man[f] as the flower of the grass.
The grass withers,
And its flower falls away,
25 But the word of the LORD endures forever.”[g]
Now this is the word which by the gospel was preached to you.
Holy, Set apart, sanctified by the Blood of the Lamb.
Born again but NOT begotten of God but through the Word of God who IS Christ Jesus. Jesus who is the Way, the Truth and the LIGHT.
Whose HOLY Spirit lives inside all His Adopted Children
1 Peter 1
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To the pilgrims of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 2 elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ:
Grace to you and peace be multiplied.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, 7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, 8 whom having not seen[a] you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, 9 receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.
10 Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, 11 searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 12 To them it was revealed that, not to themselves, but to us they were ministering the things which now have been reported to you through those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things which angels desire to look into.
13 Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 14 as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance; 15 but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, 16 because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.”[c]
17 And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your stay here in fear; 18 knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot. 20 He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you 21 who through Him believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.
22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit[d] in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, 23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever,[e] 24 because
“ All flesh is as grass,
And all the glory of man[f] as the flower of the grass.
The grass withers,
And its flower falls away,
25 But the word of the LORD endures forever.”[g]
Now this is the word which by the gospel was preached to you.
Holy, Set apart, sanctified by the Blood of the Lamb.
Born again but NOT begotten of God but through the Word of God who IS Christ Jesus. Jesus who is the Way, the Truth and the LIGHT.
Whose HOLY Spirit lives inside all His Adopted Children
I agree He is in conflict with pharisees doctrines and Actually Jesus is talking to you and I. He always talkes to you and I. And He is in our Midst, Mid, in the middle of you, in you. If He isnt talking to you then I understand your confusion about Christ in you. Like it or not it is Christ in you who is you hope of glory. You only make excuses not to be is all. It is that Pharisee mentality that He always witness to.
To mishandle His word is to look at it like the Pharisees and say, the kingdom of God is not in you when in fact that is the way of God that he be. The only way you will know what Jesus knew is if you have the same in you what He had. Christ in you.
To mishandle His word is to look at it like the Pharisees and say, the kingdom of God is not in you when in fact that is the way of God that he be. The only way you will know what Jesus knew is if you have the same in you what He had. Christ in you.