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cronjecj

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That is the problem in your doctrines. You always apply it for some future time and never apply it to yourself for today. It is always someone else and never you.

But we in Christ He is come and has made His abode in us and we do not wait, we have accepted His coming.
Hmm AnandaHya was refering to you when she said that because we are not sure if you have the Comforter in you yet or not.

i am testing you with scripture to see what you say is true or not
, my duty to do so. You have a problem with that?

Jesus sent the Spirit (Comforter) to dwell in our hearts and to help and guide us the moment Jesus ascended into heaven as He promised.

The problem is He has not come yet at His second coming according to scripture.
 
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There you go again over talking the same thing you did from day one.

False doctrine is anything that does not line up with scripture.

Is Jesus Christ God? yes or no.
No, Of course not, He was Son of God. God is a SPirit not a man, He resides in the man.
And yes False doctrine is anything that does not line up with Christ and His doctrine for you. But then without the Christ be in you then scripture can be misinterpreted into saying what you want it to say. But in Christ we are His abode, the dwelling place of God, Behold the kingdom of God is withn you. Just as Jesus said it is.
 
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Hmm AnandaHya was refering to you when she said that because we are not sure if you have the Comforter in you yet or not.

i am testing you with scripture to see what you say is true or not, my duty to do so. You have a problem with that?

Jesus sent the Spirit (Comforter) to dwell in our hearts and to help and guide us the moment Jesus ascended into heaven as He promised.

The problem is He has not come yet at His second coming according to scripture.

Depends on what you are calling the comforter. Christ is come and has made His abode in me already. It is a matter of perspective how we view things. Thrugh the eyes of God that resides in us or as one from the perspective of flesh, carnality.

And No not a problem at all. You are testing me with your laws for tradition. I undersand that.

And I agree, He is not come to you yet, but to we who He has come He resides in us as one. Christ in me is my hope of glory. Yes He is come. What would have Him wait? Only you!
 

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And THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call stubborn.
 
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And THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call stubborn.
Stubborn is deny that what Jesus came to give us, His life, His life in you, same mind, same SPriit, walk as He walks. all those things God sent Him for.
 

cronjecj

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Depends on what you are calling the comforter. Christ is come and has made His abode in me already. It is a matter of perspective how we view things. Thrugh the eyes of God that resides in us or as one from the perspective of flesh, carnality.

And No not a problem at all. You are testing me with your laws for tradition. I undersand that.

And I agree, He is not come to you yet, but to we who He has come He resides in us as one. Christ in me is my hope of glory. Yes He is come. What would have Him wait? Only you!
No, im testing you with scripture and the last time i checked scripture is the inspired Word of God. I do not have laws for tradition so stop assuming that.

False.

Matthew 24:27
For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

Matthew 24:30
At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.

Matthew 24:42
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come
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No, im testing you with scripture and the last time i checked scripture is the inspired Word of God. I do not have laws for tradition so stop assuming that.

False.

Matthew 24:27
For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

Matthew 24:30
At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.

Matthew 24:42
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.

Let me say that if you have in you that what Jesus had in Him, the comforter, then you wouldnt be trying to analize me. You would be one in agreement with Him that you have the same SPirit, same mind as He as well.
 

cronjecj

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Let me say that if you have in you that what Jesus had in Him, the comforter, then you wouldnt be trying to analize me. You would be one in agreement with Him that you have the same SPirit, same mind as He as well.
1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Revelation 2:2
I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.

Acts 17:11
Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.

Do you deny scripture?
 
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1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Revelation 2:2
I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.

Acts 17:11
Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.

Do you deny scripture?

Indeed test them. Do you have the same Spirit in you as was in Christ Jesus; Do you have the same mind; do you have the same authority; same walk; same everything. Do these signs follow you; Test and see if you do. Have you really tested them to see if you are all these things Christ came to give us and make us one with Him? If you will you just might see that what you thought as false just might be His truths.

And to deny scripture as you ask would be to deny any of these things He said He would be and do in you if you believe Him.
 
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You guys sure do kick against the idea of Christ be in you!
 

cronjecj

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Indeed test them. Do you have the same Spirit in you as was in Christ Jesus; Do you have the same mind; do you have the same authority; same walk; same everything. Do these signs follow you; Test and see if you do. Have you really tested them to see if you are all these things Christ came to give us and make us one with Him? If you will you just might see that what you thought as false just might be His truths.

And to deny scripture as you ask would be to deny any of these things He said He would be and do in you if you believe Him.
The Holy Ghost yes.

No because Jesus is God and man does not have the mind of God
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No because once again Jesus is God and man cannot forgive sins as Jesus did
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cronjecj

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You guys sure do kick against the idea of Christ be in you!
No we don't for we know that Jesus dwells in our hearts however we kick against the idea of Jesus been a mere man as you claim He to be that only.
 
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You know...Gary, I'm not angry, I'm not fighting when I say this...

You yourself have been mislead, so I can't really fault you for misleading others. I honestly didn't realize the extent of your...confusion, for lack of a better word. I am truly sorry for you.

Cronjecj, I'm glad you asked him those questions. It cleared some things up for me.
 

cronjecj

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You know...Gary, I'm not angry, I'm not fighting when I say this...

You yourself have been mislead, so I can't really fault you for misleading others. I honestly didn't realize the extent of your...confusion, for lack of a better word. I am truly sorry for you.

Cronjecj, I'm glad you asked him those questions. It cleared some things up for me.
Yes it sure did.

You are welcome.
 
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The Holy Ghost yes.

No because Jesus is God and man does not have the mind of God.

No because once again Jesus is God and man cannot forgive sins as Jesus did.

And that is the problem in understanding… you are supposed to have His same mind, His same Spirit … let this same mind be in you who was in Christ Jesus was written for a purpose.

And once again God is a Spirit and has made His abode in the man. He came to Jesus in Spirit in Matt 3:16 and opened all heaven to the man. Why cant you believe that He did? Who told you that God didn’t come to Jesus and open His kingdom to him?