Two category's that must be kept separate JUSTIFICATION - SANCTIFICATION

[FlyingDove]

Justification is God's once‑for‑all verdict grounded in Savior' sin atoning sacrifice & resurrection, received by faith apart from works.

Sanctification is the Holy Spirit's ongoing work within us (Eph 2:10).

Paul makes this distinction explicit: To the one who does not work but believes, his faith is ""counted as righteousness."" (Rom 4:5). David describes the blessedness of the man to whom God ""imputes righteousness apart from works"". (Rom 4:6). Blessed is the man to whom ""the Lord will not impute sin."" (Rom 4:8).

These are courtroom terms: counting, crediting, not imputing & not transformative actions.

The question what if someone murders or commits murder or adultery? Murder and adultery are sins of the flesh: serious, destructive, subject to discipline, but they do not undo the cross, void sin imputation, or un‑crucify Christ.

A believer who falls into serious sin faces consequences: discipline, loss of fellowship, loss of reward. But not loss of justification (1 Cor 3:8-15). If justification depended on moral performance, then righteousness would come through the law, & Paul says plainly, If righteousness comes through the law, Christ died for nothing. The root is faith in Christ's finished work (Justification) & the fruit is Holy Spirit lead ongoing works of obedience (Sanctification). Confusing the two always leads back to a works‑based-salvation.

Justification = positional, legal, unchanging. GOD ""judicially declares"" the ungodly righteous on the basis of faith in Christ' finished work (Rom 4:5). It never increases, decreases, or fluctuates.

Sanctification = practical state, transformational, ongoing. The Spirit conforms you to Christ in your daily life (Rom 8:12–14 & Gal 5:16–25). It grows, matures, struggles, advances & continues until glorification.

When those categories stay where Scripture puts them, everything harmonizes.

 

[homwardbound]

Justification is God's once‑for‑all verdict grounded in Savior' sin atoning sacrifice & resurrection, received by faith apart from works.

Sanctification is the Holy Spirit's ongoing work within us (Eph 2:10).

Paul makes this distinction explicit: To the one who does not work but believes, his faith is ""counted as righteousness."" (Rom 4:5). David describes the blessedness of the man to whom God ""imputes righteousness apart from works"". (Rom 4:6). Blessed is the man to whom ""the Lord will not impute sin."" (Rom 4:8).

These are courtroom terms: counting, crediting, not imputing & not transformative actions.

The question what if someone murders or commits murder or adultery? Murder and adultery are sins of the flesh: serious, destructive, subject to discipline, but they do not undo the cross, void sin imputation, or un‑crucify Christ.

A believer who falls into serious sin faces consequences: discipline, loss of fellowship, loss of reward. But not loss of justification (1 Cor 3:8-15). If justification depended on moral performance, then righteousness would come through the law, & Paul says plainly, If righteousness comes through the law, Christ died for nothing. The root is faith in Christ's finished work (Justification) & the fruit is Holy Spirit lead ongoing works of obedience (Sanctification). Confusing the two always leads back to a works‑based-salvation.

Justification = positional, legal, unchanging. GOD ""judicially declares"" the ungodly righteous on the basis of faith in Christ' finished work (Rom 4:5). It never increases, decreases, or fluctuates.

Sanctification = practical state, transformational, ongoing. The Spirit conforms you to Christ in your daily life (Rom 8:12–14 & Gal 5:16–25). It grows, matures, struggles, advances & continues until glorification.
When those categories stay where Scripture puts them, everything harmonizes.

Thank you, this harmonizes in truth given by God Father and Son as One (Won) for all that are sincere to see, and willingly go through troubles and not give up through any and all troubles
Thanking the Lord, because without this amazing grace given, I stand no chance ever, anyone else?
I am Annihilated in the earth walk of Jesus. If I even look at another with lust in my eye. It would be better for me to gouge out my eye(s) seeing what being under Law does. Under Law I would have to become a Torso, to be able to enter.
Better for part of my body to be able to go to heaven under Law than all of me enter Hell over my body not able to behave perfectly, ever. As seen throughout the first Old Testament before our Messiah, Yashuah in Hebrew came to take our deserved death places. that is now done once for all John 19:30, 1:29. Time to believe, be justified Eph 1:13, sealed by God then start to grow up into maturity getting sanctified, starting with we are forgiven and accepted in God by Son Eph 1:7,6
And I see God calls my Soul to be alive to God in God's Spirit and Truth alone. John 4:23-24, Thank you Father and Son
Wow is me Isaiah 6:1-7 Thank you a million times over and over Father

 

[Nedsk]

Justification is God's once‑for‑all verdict grounded in Savior' sin atoning sacrifice & resurrection, received by faith apart from works.

Sanctification is the Holy Spirit's ongoing work within us (Eph 2:10).

Paul makes this distinction explicit: To the one who does not work but believes, his faith is ""counted as righteousness."" (Rom 4:5). David describes the blessedness of the man to whom God ""imputes righteousness apart from works"". (Rom 4:6). Blessed is the man to whom ""the Lord will not impute sin."" (Rom 4:8).

These are courtroom terms: counting, crediting, not imputing & not transformative actions.

The question what if someone murders or commits murder or adultery? Murder and adultery are sins of the flesh: serious, destructive, subject to discipline, but they do not undo the cross, void sin imputation, or un‑crucify Christ.

A believer who falls into serious sin faces consequences: discipline, loss of fellowship, loss of reward. But not loss of justification (1 Cor 3:8-15). If justification depended on moral performance, then righteousness would come through the law, & Paul says plainly, If righteousness comes through the law, Christ died for nothing. The root is faith in Christ's finished work (Justification) & the fruit is Holy Spirit lead ongoing works of obedience (Sanctification). Confusing the two always leads back to a works‑based-salvation.

Justification = positional, legal, unchanging. GOD ""judicially declares"" the ungodly righteous on the basis of faith in Christ' finished work (Rom 4:5). It never increases, decreases, or fluctuates.

Sanctification = practical state, transformational, ongoing. The Spirit conforms you to Christ in your daily life (Rom 8:12–14 & Gal 5:16–25). It grows, matures, struggles, advances & continues until glorification.

When those categories stay where Scripture puts them, everything harmonizes.

So once you're justified you are sanctified and once you're sanctified there is no choice but to do good works that don't save you and you never sin again because you're been sanctified.

 

[GWH]

So once you're justified you are sanctified and once you're sanctified there is no choice but to do good works that don't save you and you never sin again because you're been sanctified.

God gives souls MFW, which may be exercised to repent/have saving FAITH in the LJC or not.
Souls who choose FAITH in the LJC are thereby justified/saved/begin lifelong FAITH/being sanctified/doing godly/loving works,
but moral perfection is not achieved/attained until heaven.

 

[Dino246]

So once you're justified you are sanctified and once you're sanctified there is no choice but to do good works that don't save you and you never sin again because you're been sanctified.

Did you read anything beyond the thread title? Your question doesn’t suggest that you did.

 

[Nedsk]

God gives souls MFW, which may be exercised to repent/have saving FAITH in the LJC or not.
Souls who choose FAITH in the LJC are thereby justified/saved/begin lifelong FAITH/being sanctified/doing godly/loving works,
but moral perfection is not achieved/attained until heaven.

MFW LJC?

 

[FlyingDove]

So once you're justified you are sanctified and once you're sanctified there is no choice but to do good works that don't save you and you never sin again because you're been sanctified.

Oy vey, Justification is God’s once‑for‑all verdict grounded in calling on the Lord for forgiveness & placing faith in His Death & resurrection. When the Lord accepts that call & He alone knows the true heart (Rev 2:23, Jn 2:24-25, Matt 15:18) He baptizes the believer with the Holy Spirit.

At that moment: Jesus takes all you sin onto Himself > full pardon > JUSTIFIED. Jesus imputes His righteousness to you > declaring you righteous. Jesus sets you apart > sanctified (identity). The Holy Spirit indwells you > begins His ongoing work until glorification.

Justification, righteousness, sanctification & glorification together describe the full scope of salvation.

Vine's Expository Dictionary [G1347, dikaiosis] - Justification: denotes the act of pronouncing righteous, justification, acquittal;" "to justify" the establishment of a person as just by acquittal from guilt.

Romans 4:25, Vine notes that ""for our justification"" literally means because our justification had already been accomplished in Christ's death. His resurrection is the confirmation that the work was finished.

KJV Dictionary Definition: SANCTIFIED 1. Made holy; consecrated; set apart for sacred services. 2. Affectedly holy.

SANCTIFIER, n. He that sanctifies or makes holy. In theology, the Holy Spirit is, by way of eminence, denominated the Sanctifier.

SANCTIFY, v.t. Low L. sanctifico; from sanctus, holy, and facio, to make.

1. In a general sense, to cleanse, purify or make holy. 2. To separate, set apart or appoint to a holy, sacred or religious use.

 

[Nedsk]

Did you read anything beyond the thread title? Your question doesn’t suggest that you did.

I'm not interested in your opinion of my question

Oy vey, Justification is God’s once‑for‑all verdict grounded in calling on the Lord for forgiveness & placing faith in His Death & resurrection. When the Lord accepts that call & He alone knows the true heart (Rev 2:23, Jn 2:24-25, Matt 15:18) He baptizes the believer with the Holy Spirit.

At that moment: Jesus takes all you sin onto Himself > full pardon > JUSTIFIED. Jesus imputes His righteousness to you > declaring you righteous. Jesus sets you apart > sanctified (identity). The Holy Spirit indwells you > begins His ongoing work until glorification.

Justification, righteousness, sanctification & glorification together describe the full scope of salvation.

Vine's Expository Dictionary [G1347, dikaiosis] - Justification: denotes the act of pronouncing righteous, justification, acquittal;" "to justify" the establishment of a person as just by acquittal from guilt.

Romans 4:25, Vine notes that ""for our justification"" literally means because our justification had already been accomplished in Christ's death. His resurrection is the confirmation that the work was finished.

KJV Dictionary Definition: SANCTIFIED 1. Made holy; consecrated; set apart for sacred services. 2. Affectedly holy.

SANCTIFIER, n. He that sanctifies or makes holy. In theology, the Holy Spirit is, by way of eminence, denominated the Sanctifier.

SANCTIFY, v.t. Low L. sanctifico; from sanctus, holy, and facio, to make.

1. In a general sense, to cleanse, purify or make holy. 2. To separate, set apart or appoint to a holy, sacred or religious use.

Oy yey the same old volume = right routine. Who enters the kingdoms of God? What does Jesus say versus what a rando on the internet named flying dove says? Only the one who does(verb) the will of my heavenly father. I bet God is really impressed with all your distinctions between justification and sanctification.

A contrite and humble heart of God you will not spurn. Psalm 51:19

 

[Dino246]

I'm not interested in your opinion of my question

A contrite and humble heart of God you will not spurn. Psalm 51:19

Interesting that you post these together.

 

[FlyingDove]

I'm not interested in your opinion of my question

Oy yey the same old volume = right routine. Who enters the kingdoms of God? What does Jesus say versus what a rando on the internet named flying dove says? Only the one who does(verb) the will of my heavenly father. I bet God is really impressed with all your distinctions between justification and sanctification.

A contrite and humble heart of God you will not spurn. Psalm 51:19

I'll bet God's equally as impressed with your abject inability to read scripture.


WILL OF THE FATHER:

Matt 7:21 Jesus said; Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; """"but he that doeth the will of my Father"""" which is in heaven.
(NOTE: Question: Anyone who is obedient? NO! Christ say's """he that doeth the will of my Father''')

HOW WE DO THE WILL OF THE FATHER:

John 6:40 Jesus said; This is the will of him that sent me, that every one which "seeth the Son, and believeth on him" may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
(NOTE: The will of the Father is: Place your Faith in the redemptive sin atoning sacrifice. Found in the death (sins required wage paid), burial (proof Christ died) & resurrection (God's receipt, payment received & accepted)

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Justification is God's once‑for‑all verdict grounded in Savior' sin atoning sacrifice & resurrection, received by faith apart from works.

Sanctification is the Holy Spirit's ongoing work within us (Eph 2:10).

Paul makes this distinction explicit: To the one who does not work but believes, his faith is ""counted as righteousness."" (Rom 4:5). David describes the blessedness of the man to whom God ""imputes righteousness apart from works"". (Rom 4:6). Blessed is the man to whom ""the Lord will not impute sin."" (Rom 4:8).

These are courtroom terms: counting, crediting, not imputing & not transformative actions.

The question what if someone murders or commits murder or adultery? Murder and adultery are sins of the flesh: serious, destructive, subject to discipline, but they do not undo the cross, void sin imputation, or un‑crucify Christ.

A believer who falls into serious sin faces consequences: discipline, loss of fellowship, loss of reward. But not loss of justification (1 Cor 3:8-15). If justification depended on moral performance, then righteousness would come through the law, & Paul says plainly, If righteousness comes through the law, Christ died for nothing. The root is faith in Christ's finished work (Justification) & the fruit is Holy Spirit lead ongoing works of obedience (Sanctification). Confusing the two always leads back to a works‑based-salvation.

Justification = positional, legal, unchanging. GOD ""judicially declares"" the ungodly righteous on the basis of faith in Christ' finished work (Rom 4:5). It never increases, decreases, or fluctuates.

Sanctification = practical state, transformational, ongoing. The Spirit conforms you to Christ in your daily life (Rom 8:12–14 & Gal 5:16–25). It grows, matures, struggles, advances & continues until glorification.

When those categories stay where Scripture puts them, everything harmonizes.

justification and sanctification are two parts of salvation like subcategories . Man needs to be justified and sanctified …..it’s like man needs faith in order to access grace … neither is more important they are parts of the same plan to redeem us

“by whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We shouldn’t try to make faith and grace seperate categories they are parts of a single plan and work together by faith we have access to grace . We are justified by faith and sanctified by the blood of Jesus Christ. It doesn’t seem important to seperate them they are two different parts of a salvstion plan

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I'll bet God's equally as impressed with your abject inability to read scripture.


WILL OF THE FATHER:

Matt 7:21 Jesus said; Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; """"but he that doeth the will of my Father"""" which is in heaven.
(NOTE: Question: Anyone who is obedient? NO! Christ say's """he that doeth the will of my Father''')

HOW WE DO THE WILL OF THE FATHER:

John 6:40 Jesus said; This is the will of him that sent me, that every one which "seeth the Son, and believeth on him" may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
(NOTE: The will of the Father is: Place your Faith in the redemptive sin atoning sacrifice. Found in the death (sins required wage paid), burial (proof Christ died) & resurrection (God's receipt, payment received & accepted)

“But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: but in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:34-35‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.

God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.

But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭2:5-11‬ ‭NIV‬‬

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:10-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;

and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:28-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭17:30-31‬ ‭

“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭9:13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“and said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:46-47‬ ‭

“As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:40-43‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[GWH]

MFW LJC?

Moral free will; Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[homwardbound]

So once you're justified you are sanctified and once you're sanctified there is no choice but to do good works that don't save you and you never sin again because you're been sanctified.

It is a growing up in grace given from Father project
Eph 1:13, to see Eph 1:6-7. To be thankful and stand in trust to God Phil 1:6, to believe Col 1:21-22 is sincerely done for you, to remain there Col 1:23
To not take it for granted and use it for any self gain here on earth in the first born flesh, that is not redeemed yet.
The Corinthians Letter was written to the Corinthians to straighten out there taking this being 100% forgiven for granted
Who got the thought. I can do what I want (Evil planted that thought), I am and remain forgiven by God

100% forgiven is true, yet the response they did as shown they did in the frist letter was ignorance. As they drank up all the wine, ate all the food and had sex with whoever they chose to. Thinking I can get away with this, I am forgiven by God. That was not the reason to be reconciled, forgiven.

Then we get to see they did get the first letter and repented (Changed mind) and did right and wanted to and became willing to
2 Cor 7, paul reports this

Once anyone sincerely believes God and God knows who do and who do not yet. They are as good as saved by God, who sees these fulfill there love of God. Whether they stay here on earth or go from here. As the thief said to Jesus he believes and Jesus said today you will be with me in paradise
God seeing that person as had completed the justification and God says you I see as. sanctified. That Thief went straight to Heaven, Father seeing all as good as Father did on the seventh day before the fall of mankind Hebrews 4:9-13

God is good all the time as good is God all the time
It is not a work in progress it is a belief into Father's lead in Daddy's Holy Spirit. The same Holy Spirit that led Jesus here on earth frist. Our turn in the risen Son given us from Father once anyone sincerely believes this between Father and them personally

 

[Nedsk]

It is a growing up in grace given from Father project
Eph 1:13, to see Eph 1:6-7. To be thankful and stand in trust to God Phil 1:6, to believe Col 1:21-22 is sincerely done for you, to remain there Col 1:23
To not take it for granted and use it for any self gain here on earth in the first born flesh, that is not redeemed yet.
The Corinthians Letter was written to the Corinthians to straighten out there taking this being 100% forgiven for granted
Who got the thought. I can do what I want (Evil planted that thought), I am and remain forgiven by God

100% forgiven is true, yet the response they did as shown they did in the frist letter was ignorance. As they drank up all the wine, ate all the food and had sex with whoever they chose to. Thinking I can get away with this, I am forgiven by God. That was not the reason to be reconciled, forgiven.

Then we get to see they did get the first letter and repented (Changed mind) and did right and wanted to and became willing to
2 Cor 7, paul reports this

Once anyone sincerely believes God and God knows who do and who do not yet. They are as good as saved by God, who sees these fulfill there love of God. Whether they stay here on earth or go from here. As the thief said to Jesus he believes and Jesus said today you will be with me in paradise
God seeing that person as had completed the justification and God says you I see as. sanctified. That Thief went straight to Heaven, Father seeing all as good as Father did on the seventh day before the fall of mankind Hebrews 4:9-13

God is good all the time as good is God all the time
It is not a work in progress it is a belief into Father's lead in Daddy's Holy Spirit. The same Holy Spirit that led Jesus here on earth frist. Our turn in the risen Son given us from Father once anyone sincerely believes this between Father and them personally

So you never sin anymore or you do but it's automatically forgiven because you believe?! Is that what all that means?

 

[Nedsk]

I'll bet God's equally as impressed with your abject inability to read scripture.


WILL OF THE FATHER:

Matt 7:21 Jesus said; Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; """"but he that doeth the will of my Father"""" which is in heaven.
(NOTE: Question: Anyone who is obedient? NO! Christ say's """he that doeth the will of my Father''')

HOW WE DO THE WILL OF THE FATHER:

John 6:40 Jesus said; This is the will of him that sent me, that every one which "seeth the Son, and believeth on him" may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
(NOTE: The will of the Father is: Place your Faith in the redemptive sin atoning sacrifice. Found in the death (sins required wage paid), burial (proof Christ died) & resurrection (God's receipt, payment received & accepted)

He gave me the ability to read and do so with comprehension. What I love is how you claim authoritative understanding of Scripture without evidence other than all your little friends agree with you.

 

[mailmandan]

I'll bet God's equally as impressed with your abject inability to read scripture.

WILL OF THE FATHER:

Matt 7:21 Jesus said; Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; """"but he that doeth the will of my Father"""" which is in heaven.
(NOTE: Question: Anyone who is obedient? NO! Christ say's """he that doeth the will of my Father''')

HOW WE DO THE WILL OF THE FATHER:

John 6:40 Jesus said; This is the will of him that sent me, that every one which "seeth the Son, and believeth on him" may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
(NOTE: The will of the Father is: Place your Faith in the redemptive sin atoning sacrifice. Found in the death (sins required wage paid), burial (proof Christ died) & resurrection (God's receipt, payment received & accepted)

Amen! Now there is a difference between doing the will of the Father IN ORDER TO BECOME SAVED:

John 6:40 - For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.

AND

Doing the will of the Father AFTER WE HAVE BEEN SAVED:

1 Thessalonians 5:14 - And we urge you, brothers and sisters, warn those who are idle and disruptive, encourage the disheartened, help the weak, be patient with everyone. 15 Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong but always strive to do what is good for each other and for everyone else. 16 Rejoice always, 17 pray continually, 18 give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.

 

[mailmandan]

Justification is God's once‑for‑all verdict grounded in Savior' sin atoning sacrifice & resurrection, received by faith apart from works.

Sanctification is the Holy Spirit's ongoing work within us (Eph 2:10).

Paul makes this distinction explicit: To the one who does not work but believes, his faith is ""counted as righteousness."" (Rom 4:5). David describes the blessedness of the man to whom God ""imputes righteousness apart from works"". (Rom 4:6). Blessed is the man to whom ""the Lord will not impute sin."" (Rom 4:8).

These are courtroom terms: counting, crediting, not imputing & not transformative actions.

The question what if someone murders or commits murder or adultery? Murder and adultery are sins of the flesh: serious, destructive, subject to discipline, but they do not undo the cross, void sin imputation, or un‑crucify Christ.

A believer who falls into serious sin faces consequences: discipline, loss of fellowship, loss of reward. But not loss of justification (1 Cor 3:8-15). If justification depended on moral performance, then righteousness would come through the law, & Paul says plainly, If righteousness comes through the law, Christ died for nothing. The root is faith in Christ's finished work (Justification) & the fruit is Holy Spirit lead ongoing works of obedience (Sanctification). Confusing the two always leads back to a works‑based-salvation.

Justification = positional, legal, unchanging. GOD ""judicially declares"" the ungodly righteous on the basis of faith in Christ' finished work (Rom 4:5). It never increases, decreases, or fluctuates.

Sanctification = practical state, transformational, ongoing. The Spirit conforms you to Christ in your daily life (Rom 8:12–14 & Gal 5:16–25). It grows, matures, struggles, advances & continues until glorification.

When those categories stay where Scripture puts them, everything harmonizes.

Amen! There are three tenses to salvation that often get conflated by works-salvationists.

1. We have been saved from the PENALTY of sin (justification)
2. We are being saved from the POWER of sin (ongoing sanctification)
3. We will be saved from the PRESENCE of sin (glorification)

 

[FlyingDove]

He gave me the ability to read and do so with comprehension. What I love is how you claim authoritative understanding of Scripture without evidence other than all your little friends agree with you.

Not so much:
SANCTIFICATION - https://biblehub.com/greek/38.htm
Lexical Summary hagiasmos: Sanctification, holiness, consecration

HELPS Word-studies Cognate: 38 hagiasmós (a masculine noun derived from 40 /hágios, "holy") – sanctification (the process of advancing in holiness); use of the believer being progressively transformed by the Lord into His likeness (similarity of nature). See 40 /hagios ("holy").

Topical Lexicon Meaning and Concept
Strong’s Greek 38 (ἁγιασμός) speaks of sanctification—a state of consecration brought about by God that issues in practical holiness of life. It embraces both the decisive setting-apart that occurs at conversion and the ongoing transformation that conforms believers to the image of Christ.

Sanctification and Salvation’s Order Romans 6:19 and Romans 6:22 link sanctification to freedom from sin’s dominion.
Justification declares the believer righteous; sanctification makes that righteousness visible in conduct, anticipating glorification. 1 Corinthians 1:30 sets sanctification alongside righteousness and redemption, showing that Christ Himself embodies and secures every stage of salvation.

Summary: Strong’s 38 anchors the New Testament vision of a people set apart by God, progressively transformed by the Spirit, and destined for flawless holiness at Christ’s appearing. Sanctification is God’s will, Christ’s achievement, the Spirit’s work, the believer’s pursuit, the church’s mission, and the believer’s destiny.

JUSTIFY - https://biblehub.com/greek/1344.htm
Lexical Summary dikaioó: To justify, to declare righteous, to acquit

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance free, justify, be righteous. From dikaios; to render (i.e. Show or regard as) just or innocent -- free, justify(-ier), be righteous

HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 1344 dikaióō (from dikē, "right, judicial-approval") – properly, approved, especially in a legal, authoritative sense; to show what is right, i.e. conformed to a proper standard (i.e. "upright").

The believer is "made righteous/justified" (1344 /dikaióō) by the Lord, cleared of all charges (punishment) related to their sins. Moreover, they are justified (1344 /dikaióō, "made right, righteous") by God's grace each time they receive (obey) faith (4102 /pístis), i.e. "God's inwrought persuasion" (cf. the -oō ending which conveys "to bring to/out"). See 1343 (dikaiosynē).

Summary Strong’s Greek 1344 portrays God’s decisive, legal declaration that sinners are righteous through faith in Jesus Christ. This verdict, grounded in the cross, confirmed by the resurrection, and received by faith apart from works, provides peace with God, energizes sanctification, and guarantees future glory. Genuine faith, while never the meritorious ground, necessarily bears the fruit that vindicates its reality before others and ultimately before God.

Paul’s Doctrine of Justification

1. Ground: the atoning death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
• Romans 4:25 – He “was delivered over to death for our trespasses and was raised to life for our justification.”
• Romans 5:9 – “Having now been justified by His blood, we will be saved from wrath through Him.”

2. Means: faith apart from works of law.
• Romans 3:28 – “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law.”
• Galatians 2:16 – “We know that a man is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ… so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.”

3. Scope: Jew and Gentile alike.
• Romans 3:30 – “There is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith.”

4. Results: peace and hope.
• Romans 5:1 – “Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.”
• Romans 8:30, 33 – Those whom God justified He also glorified; no charge can stand against God’s elect because “it is God who justifies.”

Strong's Greek: 1344. δικαιόω (dikaioó) -- To justify, to declare righteous, to acquit

 

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justification and sanctification are two parts of salvation like subcategories . Man needs to be justified and sanctified …..it’s like man needs faith in order to access grace … neither is more important they are parts of the same plan to redeem us

“by whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We shouldn’t try to make faith and grace seperate categories they are parts of a single plan and work together by faith we have access to grace . We are justified by faith and sanctified by the blood of Jesus Christ. It doesn’t seem important to seperate them they are two different parts of a salvstion plan

SANCTIFICATION - https://biblehub.com/greek/38.htm
Lexical Summary hagiasmos: Sanctification, holiness, consecration

HELPS Word-studies Cognate: 38 hagiasmós (a masculine noun derived from 40 /hágios, "holy") – sanctification (the process of advancing in holiness); use of the believer being progressively transformed by the Lord into His likeness (similarity of nature). See 40 /hagios ("holy").

Topical Lexicon Meaning and Concept
Strong’s Greek 38 (ἁγιασμός) speaks of sanctification—a state of consecration brought about by God that issues in practical holiness of life. It embraces both the decisive setting-apart that occurs at conversion and the ongoing transformation that conforms believers to the image of Christ.

Sanctification and Salvation’s Order Romans 6:19 and Romans 6:22 link sanctification to freedom from sin’s dominion.
Justification declares the believer righteous; sanctification makes that righteousness visible in conduct, anticipating glorification. 1 Corinthians 1:30 sets sanctification alongside righteousness and redemption, showing that Christ Himself embodies and secures every stage of salvation.

Summary: Strong’s 38 anchors the New Testament vision of a people set apart by God, progressively transformed by the Spirit, and destined for flawless holiness at Christ’s appearing. Sanctification is God’s will, Christ’s achievement, the Spirit’s work, the believer’s pursuit, the church’s mission, and the believer’s destiny.

JUSTIFY - https://biblehub.com/greek/1344.htm
Lexical Summary dikaioó: To justify, to declare righteous, to acquit

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance free, justify, be righteous. From dikaios; to render (i.e. Show or regard as) just or innocent -- free, justify(-ier), be righteous

HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 1344 dikaióō (from dikē, "right, judicial-approval") – properly, approved, especially in a legal, authoritative sense; to show what is right, i.e. conformed to a proper standard (i.e. "upright").

The believer is "made righteous/justified" (1344 /dikaióō) by the Lord, cleared of all charges (punishment) related to their sins. Moreover, they are justified (1344 /dikaióō, "made right, righteous") by God's grace each time they receive (obey) faith (4102 /pístis), i.e. "God's inwrought persuasion" (cf. the -oō ending which conveys "to bring to/out"). See 1343 (dikaiosynē).

Summary Strong’s Greek 1344 portrays God’s decisive, legal declaration that sinners are righteous through faith in Jesus Christ. This verdict, grounded in the cross, confirmed by the resurrection, and received by faith apart from works, provides peace with God, energizes sanctification, and guarantees future glory. Genuine faith, while never the meritorious ground, necessarily bears the fruit that vindicates its reality before others and ultimately before God.

Paul’s Doctrine of Justification

1. Ground: the atoning death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
• Romans 4:25 – He “was delivered over to death for our trespasses and was raised to life for our justification.”
• Romans 5:9 – “Having now been justified by His blood, we will be saved from wrath through Him.”

2. Means: faith apart from works of law.
• Romans 3:28 – “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law.”
• Galatians 2:16 – “We know that a man is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ… so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.”

3. Scope: Jew and Gentile alike.
• Romans 3:30 – “There is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith.”

4. Results: peace and hope.
• Romans 5:1 – “Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.”
• Romans 8:30, 33 – Those whom God justified He also glorified; no charge can stand against God’s elect because “it is God who justifies.”

Strong's Greek: 1344. δικαιόω (dikaioó) -- To justify, to declare righteous, to acquit