Revolution in Iran

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Donald may have bit off more that he can chew. Iran is not a Big Mac
Israel has tried to convince US presidents for a long time to join them in a war with Iran; Donald is the only one dumb enough to actually take the bait. I imagine Netanyahu got in his ear and started telling him what a great hero he'd be, and that's all it took.
 
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Iran doesn't need to mine the Strait of Hormuz when it has submersible suicide drones. Russia learned the hard way what surface drones can do when Ukraine sunk their flagship of the Black Sea fleet, the battle cruiser Moskva, with only 2 drones. Those were not submersibles, but small speed-boat looking craft. Iran's are fully submersible and look like torpedoes.

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The problem with the operation against Iran is the lack of understanding of the cultural differences between the west and the east. To us in the west one day is like a thousand years, but in the east, a thousand years is like one day.
 
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Israel has tried to convince US presidents for a long time to join them in a war with Iran; Donald is the only one dumb enough to actually take the bait. I imagine Netanyahu got in his ear and started telling him what a great hero he'd be, and that's all it took.
So then you don't believe it was to get the Epstein crime off the front page and you don't think Netanyahu was blackmailing him about releasing Epstein info if he didn't and you don't think it was to keep the military industrial complex happy or to let the Pentagon test out their new AI weapons. Got it.
 
Our daily assessment and analysis from the minds of a Generals and Admirals. Keep in mind due to the fast pace of this topic that yesterday and some pages back it was noted that Hegseth announced a massive airstrike occured yesterday, so much of the analysis is on the after effects of this.


 
Plenty of internal and external evidence that it was written prior to 70AD.

I am not going to put to much stock in the testimony of Irenaeus.
ASIA is not Israel, nor Jerusalem.
And there never was any 70AD judgment event, or 132AD diaspora event in that region.

Rev 1:4
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Rev 1:11
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia;
unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto
Laodicea.

Rev 1:19
Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

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The earliest Christian writers who commented on the date of the Book of Revelation mostly placed it near the end of the reign of the Roman emperor Domitian (AD 81–96). Their testimony is important because some of them were close in time to the apostolic age.

Here are the main early witnesses:

1. Irenaeus (c. AD 130–202)

He is the earliest explicit source about the date of Revelation.

In Against Heresies (Book 5, ch. 30) he wrote that the Apocalypse:

“was seen not very long ago, but almost in our own generation, at the end of the reign of Domitian.”

This places the writing around AD 95–96.

Important point:
Irenaeus was a disciple of Polycarp, who himself had been taught by John the Apostle. Because of that chain, many historians consider Irenaeus a strong early witness.


2. Clement of Alexandria (c. AD 150–215)

In Who Is the Rich Man That Shall Be Saved?, Clement says that John returned from exile on Patmos after the death of a tyrant.

Most scholars think the “tyrant” he refers to is Domitian.

3. Origen (c. AD 185–253)

Origen mentions that John was banished to Patmos by the Roman emperor.

While he does not name the emperor explicitly, later tradition connects this exile with Domitian.

4. Victorinus of Pettau (d. c. AD 303)

The earliest surviving commentary on Revelation. He states that:

John was exiled to Patmos by Domitian

Revelation was written during that time.

5. Eusebius of Caesarea (c. AD 260–339)

In Ecclesiastical History, he repeats the tradition from Irenaeus that John was exiled during Domitian’s persecution and returned after Domitian died.

Minority early views (possible earlier date)

A few later writers suggest Nero’s reign (AD 54–68) instead.

Example:

Epiphanius of Salamis (4th century) oddly places John's exile under Claudius, which most historians think is a mistake.

Some modern scholars argue for a Neronic date (around AD 65–68), but this view is not strongly supported by the earliest church fathers.
 
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ASIA is not Israel, nor Jerusalem.
And there never was any 70AD judgment event, or 132AD diaspora event in that region.

Rev 1:4
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Rev 1:11
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia;
unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Rev 1:19
Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

***************************************************

The earliest Christian writers who commented on the date of the Book of Revelation mostly placed it near the end of the reign of the Roman emperor Domitian (AD 81–96). Their testimony is important because some of them were close in time to the apostolic age.

Here are the main early witnesses:

1. Irenaeus (c. AD 130–202)

He is the earliest explicit source about the date of Revelation.

In Against Heresies (Book 5, ch. 30) he wrote that the Apocalypse:

“was seen not very long ago, but almost in our own generation, at the end of the reign of Domitian.”

This places the writing around AD 95–96.

Important point:
Irenaeus was a disciple of Polycarp, who himself had been taught by John the Apostle. Because of that chain, many historians consider Irenaeus a strong early witness.


2. Clement of Alexandria (c. AD 150–215)

In Who Is the Rich Man That Shall Be Saved?, Clement says that John returned from exile on Patmos after the death of a tyrant.

Most scholars think the “tyrant” he refers to is Domitian.

3. Origen (c. AD 185–253)

Origen mentions that John was banished to Patmos by the Roman emperor.

While he does not name the emperor explicitly, later tradition connects this exile with Domitian.

4. Victorinus of Pettau (d. c. AD 303)

The earliest surviving commentary on Revelation. He states that:

John was exiled to Patmos by Domitian

Revelation was written during that time.

5. Eusebius of Caesarea (c. AD 260–339)

In Ecclesiastical History, he repeats the tradition from Irenaeus that John was exiled during Domitian’s persecution and returned after Domitian died.

Minority early views (possible earlier date)

A few later writers suggest Nero’s reign (AD 54–68) instead.

Example:

Epiphanius of Salamis (4th century) oddly places John's exile under Claudius, which most historians think is a mistake.

Some modern scholars argue for a Neronic date (around AD 65–68), but this view is not strongly supported by the earliest church fathers.
The preterists can't fathom the simple logic that Revelation can't be fulfilled before it was even written.
 
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The problem with the operation against Iran is the lack of understanding of the cultural differences between the west and the east. To us in the west one day is like a thousand years, but in the east, a thousand years is like one day.
Its obvious: Israel is under existential threat......and God is preserving them.
But, in these latter years, an even greater threat will emerge. And soon. All foreseen and codified.

As we can see, Israel "dwelleth safely" in Ezekiel 38.
Which, never happened from 70AD (or 132AD) onward.
But could only become realized in this present day and age......after the Ezekiel 37 dry bones prophetical reconstitution of the Nation Israel.

Eze 37:3
And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.

Eze 37:4
Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.

Eze 37:5
Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:

Eze 37:11
Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

Eze 37:12
Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

Eze 37:13
And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

Eze 37:14
And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

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Its obvious: Israel is under existential threat......and God is preserving them.
But, in these latter years, an even greater threat will emerge. And soon. All foreseen and codified.

As we can see, Israel "dwelleth safely" in Ezekiel 38.
Which, never happened from 70AD (or 132AD) onward.
But could only become realized in this present day and age......after the Ezekiel 37 dry bones prophetical reconstitution of the Nation Israel.

Eze 37:3
And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.

Eze 37:4
Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.

Eze 37:5
Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:

Eze 37:11
Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

Eze 37:12
Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

Eze 37:13
And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

Eze 37:14
And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

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Let’s not drown ourselves in Biblical verses. I agree with you regarding Israel. My point is that the American electorate doesn’t have the patience to wait this battle out. Soon as the prices of gas skyrocket, Iran will get their way.

To get rid of the Iranian terrorists we will need boots on the ground. Question is if Trump is willing to finish what has to be done.
 
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Its obvious: Israel is under existential threat......and God is preserving them.
But, in these latter years, an even greater threat will emerge. And soon. All foreseen and codified.

As we can see, Israel "dwelleth safely" in Ezekiel 38.
Which, never happened from 70AD (or 132AD) onward.
But could only become realized in this present day and age......after the Ezekiel 37 dry bones prophetical reconstitution of the Nation Israel.

Eze 37:3
And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.

Eze 37:4
Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.

Eze 37:5
Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:

Eze 37:11
Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

Eze 37:12
Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

Eze 37:13
And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

Eze 37:14
And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

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Eze 38:14
Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?

Eze 38:8
After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

Eze 38:17
Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?

Eze 39:1
Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:


Eze 39:4
Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.

Eze 39:7
So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.

Eze 39:22
So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Let’s not drown ourselves in Biblical verses. I agree with you regarding Israel. My point is that the American electorate doesn’t have the patience to wait this battle out. Soon as the prices of gas skyrocket, Iran will get their way.

To get rid of the Iranian terrorists we will need boots on the ground. Question is if Trump is willing to finish what has to be done.
Drowning in verses? I am barely getting my toes wet.

"In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?"
 
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Let’s not drown ourselves in Biblical verses. I agree with you regarding Israel. My point is that the American electorate doesn’t have the patience to wait this battle out. Soon as the prices of gas skyrocket, Iran will get their way.

To get rid of the Iranian terrorists we will need boots on the ground. Question is if Trump is willing to finish what has to be done.

That's why there is no problem with the operation. The clash of cultures is interesting, but really the generational divide is the bigger driver. It will be short though, functionally it's already over successfully from the minute Moosh Ali bit the dust, what's left is just clean up crew, basically go ahead have fun for a month taking out the laundry list of IRGC capabilities as the command pleases. We don't technically have to rebuild Iran, but if you want to do that without needing to declare a war and without putting mass US boots on the ground this is where return of Pahlavi and organizing the regional allies (ie: Turkey, GCC countries, Jordan, etc.) that the IRGC attacked and betrayed into a honorguard coalition for Pahlavi to return and try to lead an on-the-ground transition is not only an option, it's really the ideal course of action. For this the US could be more of a coordinator. Stop playing with Pezeshkian and kil him, that's the only mistake made so far, killing Pezeshkian opens up the opportune moment for Pahlavi to return since thn they must have new elections and the government mechanism in the selection of the next Ayatollah is shut off for if Moosh-Taba succumbs to his wounds like the son of Ahab. Is it because there is no God for the IRGC cult that they enquire at mahdi to save them? The regime will not come off the bed God has laid them upon, praise Jesus.
 
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