Israel has tried to convince US presidents for a long time to join them in a war with Iran; Donald is the only one dumb enough to actually take the bait. I imagine Netanyahu got in his ear and started telling him what a great hero he'd be, and that's all it took.Donald may have bit off more that he can chew. Iran is not a Big Mac


They're literally pulling this sketch on us.No what I heard. An amputated leg and other grievous injuries is more accurate.
So then you don't believe it was to get the Epstein crime off the front page and you don't think Netanyahu was blackmailing him about releasing Epstein info if he didn't and you don't think it was to keep the military industrial complex happy or to let the Pentagon test out their new AI weapons. Got it.Israel has tried to convince US presidents for a long time to join them in a war with Iran; Donald is the only one dumb enough to actually take the bait. I imagine Netanyahu got in his ear and started telling him what a great hero he'd be, and that's all it took.
ASIA is not Israel, nor Jerusalem.Plenty of internal and external evidence that it was written prior to 70AD.
I am not going to put to much stock in the testimony of Irenaeus.
Kim Dotcom, Scott Ritter and Russia Today... oh remember all the moral outrage several years ago.
Yes please tell us who are the too bat crap crazy @cv5
The preterists can't fathom the simple logic that Revelation can't be fulfilled before it was even written.ASIA is not Israel, nor Jerusalem.
And there never was any 70AD judgment event, or 132AD diaspora event in that region.
Rev 1:4
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
Rev 1:11
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia;
unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
Rev 1:19
Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
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The earliest Christian writers who commented on the date of the Book of Revelation mostly placed it near the end of the reign of the Roman emperor Domitian (AD 81–96). Their testimony is important because some of them were close in time to the apostolic age.
Here are the main early witnesses:
1. Irenaeus (c. AD 130–202)
He is the earliest explicit source about the date of Revelation.
In Against Heresies (Book 5, ch. 30) he wrote that the Apocalypse:
“was seen not very long ago, but almost in our own generation, at the end of the reign of Domitian.”
This places the writing around AD 95–96.
Important point:
Irenaeus was a disciple of Polycarp, who himself had been taught by John the Apostle. Because of that chain, many historians consider Irenaeus a strong early witness.
2. Clement of Alexandria (c. AD 150–215)
In Who Is the Rich Man That Shall Be Saved?, Clement says that John returned from exile on Patmos after the death of a tyrant.
Most scholars think the “tyrant” he refers to is Domitian.
3. Origen (c. AD 185–253)
Origen mentions that John was banished to Patmos by the Roman emperor.
While he does not name the emperor explicitly, later tradition connects this exile with Domitian.
4. Victorinus of Pettau (d. c. AD 303)
The earliest surviving commentary on Revelation. He states that:
John was exiled to Patmos by Domitian
Revelation was written during that time.
5. Eusebius of Caesarea (c. AD 260–339)
In Ecclesiastical History, he repeats the tradition from Irenaeus that John was exiled during Domitian’s persecution and returned after Domitian died.
Minority early views (possible earlier date)
A few later writers suggest Nero’s reign (AD 54–68) instead.
Example:
Epiphanius of Salamis (4th century) oddly places John's exile under Claudius, which most historians think is a mistake.
Some modern scholars argue for a Neronic date (around AD 65–68), but this view is not strongly supported by the earliest church fathers.
Its obvious: Israel is under existential threat......and God is preserving them.The problem with the operation against Iran is the lack of understanding of the cultural differences between the west and the east. To us in the west one day is like a thousand years, but in the east, a thousand years is like one day.
Its obvious: Israel is under existential threat......and God is preserving them.
But, in these latter years, an even greater threat will emerge. And soon. All foreseen and codified.
As we can see, Israel "dwelleth safely" in Ezekiel 38.
Which, never happened from 70AD (or 132AD) onward.
But could only become realized in this present day and age......after the Ezekiel 37 dry bones prophetical reconstitution of the Nation Israel.
Eze 37:3
And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.
Eze 37:4
Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
Eze 37:5
Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
Eze 37:11
Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
Eze 37:12
Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
Eze 37:13
And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
Eze 37:14
And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.
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Eze 38:14Its obvious: Israel is under existential threat......and God is preserving them.
But, in these latter years, an even greater threat will emerge. And soon. All foreseen and codified.
As we can see, Israel "dwelleth safely" in Ezekiel 38.
Which, never happened from 70AD (or 132AD) onward.
But could only become realized in this present day and age......after the Ezekiel 37 dry bones prophetical reconstitution of the Nation Israel.
Eze 37:3
And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.
Eze 37:4
Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
Eze 37:5
Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
Eze 37:11
Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
Eze 37:12
Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
Eze 37:13
And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
Eze 37:14
And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.
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Drowning in verses? I am barely getting my toes wet.Let’s not drown ourselves in Biblical verses. I agree with you regarding Israel. My point is that the American electorate doesn’t have the patience to wait this battle out. Soon as the prices of gas skyrocket, Iran will get their way.
To get rid of the Iranian terrorists we will need boots on the ground. Question is if Trump is willing to finish what has to be done.
Let’s not drown ourselves in Biblical verses. I agree with you regarding Israel. My point is that the American electorate doesn’t have the patience to wait this battle out. Soon as the prices of gas skyrocket, Iran will get their way.
To get rid of the Iranian terrorists we will need boots on the ground. Question is if Trump is willing to finish what has to be done.