Your comments are irrelevant to reality.
You are not required to accept ANYTHING I post.
Be happy.
No living faith without works
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You are not required to accept ANYTHING I post.
Be happy.
Ok, you've coaxed another response...
Quote: "Difficult for you to explain away all those verses"
-Why would I do that? It's scripture. You don't explain it away, you accept what's true and it's the word of God.
Quote: "Funny, because I've done it with yours"
-There's your problem. You've just said what you do to scripture.
Quote: "As far as I'm concered,,,there has been no back and forth.
There has been YOU posting scripture that you do not quite understand....
and me explaining it to you"
- Sounds like a back and forth.
You're a contrarian. You hear something and just oppose it.
Really, be blessed and not so condemning of others, God will call whom He pleases and we thank Him for it.
To some extent, yes.
Exactly.
Only the saved have obeyed by choosing to believe in/on the Son and only the saved obey Him after they have been saved by believing.
Those who refuse to believe in the Son have not obeyed the Son and will see the wrath of God. (John 3:36)
The act of obedience that saves is choosing to believe in the Son. (John 3:36) In Romans 10:16, we further see - But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?”
We obey the gospel by choosing to believe the gospel. Not to be confused with multiple acts of obedience (works) which "follow."
You just have the smugness of the PhariseesI certainly did not come to God trusting in myself that I am righteous, boasting in my works, but in humility, beating my chest saying, "God be merciful to me a sinner!" and I received Jesus Christ through faith. (Romans 4:5-6; Philippians 3:9)
But supposed "bible believing"Christians have solved that problem by thinking they don't sin or if they do they're already forgiven. It's a great work around
Pot calling the kettle black.
Galatians 6:14 - But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
Maybe but I don't walk around smugly believing im saved simply because I said a magic incantation
This is what many refer to as an effectual call...a summons from the king. Often such a summons was accomplished with an armed escort.
God WILL call who he pleases and that may not include those who think they are called. Would you agree?
Weren't you a letter carrier...I thought you just mailed it in.
My experience is that only faith-alone Christians seek to silence all disagreement with their anti-works justification. I believe it's because their immortal souls can only trust in their personal faith-alone doctrine. Therefore, ff their doctrine is proven unscriptural, then their souls are left alone without God, just like any other sinner and trespasser of the world.
However, Christians that trust entirely in Jesus Christ to walk as He walked, can also trust we will not be left alone in His judgment of works.
Jhn 8:29
And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
We see here as with justification by good works, that trusting in God not to leave us alone, is also by doing works that please Him always.
Therefore, no one trusting in their faith-alone apart from their own works, can possibly have the same confidence toward the Father, as Jesus Christ. Especially if they declare that it's impossible for them to walk as He walked.
I've never heard any faith-alone Christian confessing, that they do only good as Jesus, and not any evil with the world. But they only have their faith-alone to justify them, while committing the same sinful deed of the world.
LOL! Public forum. You made public comments with no proof of what you say. I understand. People who make the claims you are making never ever have the proof to back it up.
Many other similar posts like the one I grabbed.
He said “I sure have posted enough verses in these past years”
Well. If you’ve only been here 6 months, how can you have posted verses for years?
Also, he is very evasive in just answering the question.
Saying something like, “I don’t remember “ instead of a yes or no
As I've pointed out, we are saved by grace, through faith. Since you have so little idea what grace is, I suggest you look into that.
Gideon....
Can't remember if I've replied to the above.
Sorry if I'm repeating.
You could take issue with my remark.
You're taking it personally, maybe, not sure.
I invited @mailmandan to a party just a few days ago.
The party was a member, on this very forum, who stated that obedience to God is not necessary.
Also, I've had to occassion to read MANY posts and I can assure you that this is a belief that many have.
They believe in FAITH ALONE.....as defined by the idea that a person needs ONLY faith, and nothing else,
and he will be saved.
§Baptism is a work.
Obedience is a work.
They believe anything they do is a work.
A member on another forum, just this week, stated that CONFESSING Jesus, as in Romans, is a work because we're engaging in AN ACTION and so it's a work.
I want to end with this and I've said it many times...
maybe you missed it:
THE LAW IS DEAD.
It was abolished 2 thousand years ago.
If someone wants to follow The Law,,,that is their prerogative and they're allowed to.
I don't follow the Law and most Christians do not.
I'm addressing those Christiians on these threads.