Changing the subject to try and make things personal. Childish tactic and very worn out in this thread
If I said I don't use AI, then I don't use AI. Period. It's a very big internet. Perhaps get your head out of SDA doctrine and look around.
The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?
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Changing the subject to try and make things personal. Childish tactic and very worn out in this thread
If I said I don't use AI, then I don't use AI. Period. It's a very big internet. Perhaps get your head out of SDA doctrine and look around.
So show once where I misquoted Jesus. Its easy to make accusations, not so easy to prove.
And another misrepresentation, I never said anyone would know the hour of His return, but did He not teach His own return would be soon? Did He not Himself teach to watch for the sign of His return and what would be happening in the world? You twist everything around and this is not fruitful. I am going to leave you with your hate and will pray for your heart.
I will only respond if you can find one quote from me, where I misquoted Jesus. Otherwise its just another false accusations and that does not do well with our LORD.
Take care.
Did Jesus give a date or did He say only the Father knew? In Matthew 24:36, He specifically said no one knows the day or the hour, so anyone building a ministry around a date like 1844 is already contradicting Him and claiming to know more than the Son of God. Jesus didn't give a failed date and then have to un-prophesy it later; He taught us to be ready as a lifestyle. If your blueprint depends on explaining away failed dates and closed doors of mercy, you are following a man-made system instead of the Shepherd.
EGW never gave a date to Christ's second coming. Not once, only that it would be near, just as Jesus taught.
God gave the 2300 days that William Miller a Baptist minister predicted the 1844 return that many were studying. The date came from WM not EGW. The SDA church did not form until 1863 almost twenty years later after more studying of the Bible.
Jesus is LORD of the Sabbath, someone else lords the first day. He said His sheep hears Him and follows Him, He said to worship Him, because He is our Creator Rev14:7 Exo20:11 Col1:16 and serve Him and join ourselves to Him invited to everyone Isa56:6 but many choose someone else to shepherd them. I am confident in who I follow and which voice I listen to. You can't gaslight me and try to make me claim I beleive something that i don't. God will be the judge for us all, nothing we can hide Ecc12:13-14
Oh, so when you asked for clarification it was a game? I did wonder. I mean, there has been one topic
we were discussing and you asked what it was as if you did not know. Still, your claim was that our
(you really should have said YOUR) heart has not changed. Then when I asserted the truth of the matter
according to Scripture, you contradicted what you originally said. I don't blame you for playing dumb.
I asked to show this by my posts, I don't see any contradictions so would have no idea what you're speaking of, Just quote me that's what someone should do if making an accusation against another, show actual evidence, that's all I was asking and still have not seen it.
Yes ! The New Covenant is about a heart "transplant" to the Character of Jesus ( His Righteousness of obedience to the Father.).. We adopt by Faith the Righteousness of Christ, by the New Covenant, an agreement to believe and follow our Lord, by Love this will be evident by our receiving the Holy Spirit, and faithfully the sanctification process will transform our hearts, to Love God & our neighbors, These actions and words of Love will be the fruits of the Spirit, acts of obedience to God and our neighbors.
Loving God by the first 4 Commandments and Loving our neighbors by the last six.
You must be forgetting that I've already given you this Biblical scriptural proof of this.
Here it is again to refresh your memory.
It's hard for you to ignore verses like
- Ecclesiastes 12:13 – “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.” ....
I agree that Jesus plainly does not teach your interpretation.
The law of Moses/Torah included the Decalogue.
God's law was changed to the Gospel by Jesus' fulfillment of the OC.
I agree with letting Scripture interpret Scripture, because Truth must harmonize.
Dan. 9:27 refers to the sacrifices and offerings of the Torah.
The astute reader will note that you interpret the NT/Gospel in light of the OC/Law,
which is wrong per NT Scripture you ignore, such as Heb. 7:11-10:1.
The Decalogue was part of the Levitical law, but the NT describes all except #4 as fruit of the Spirit.
The priesthood had to change because only Messiah was qualified to atone for humanity's sins.
The Levitical laws were intended to separate the Jews from the Gentiles until the advent of Messiah,
which inaugurated the age of the Spirit and Church for all (Gal. 3:28).
I don’t need your Ivor Myers view of scripture. I don’t need your math equation when I have an actual relationship with the King of Kings. When are you gonna stop trying to be Jesus—which we aren’t called to do—and start trying to follow Him—which we are called to do? Jesus followed the Father’s law and fulfilled it, aka brought it to its intended completion. We are to follow the Son’s law, aka the law of love. Not once did Jesus tell us to follow the Father’s commandments as He did. The Father specifically told us to listen to the Son. The Son is the King. The Son has ALL authority. The Son gave us a new commandment. Take your Ivor Myers lenses off and see the truth.
Well God will be the one deciding if we can forget the only commandment He said Remember, that came with His power of Blessings Exo20:11 Isa56:2 and Sanctification Gen2:3 Eze20:13, because we can't do this ourselves Isa66:17 I believe He made Himself abundantly clear but in the end it will be up to God. Disobeying this commandment never worked out well for one person in the OT Eze20:13 Eze20:15-16 it kept an entire generation out of their promised rest and we are told plainly in the NT not to harden our heart as they did Heb3:7-19 not to follow in their same example of disobedience to enter ours Heb4:11 Guess we shall see at His soon return- He will be the one to sort all of this out. Mat7:21-23
The fruit of the Holy Spirit is shown below.
Galatians 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control;
against such things there is no law.
You said the fruit of the Holy Spirit is our obedience to the will of the Father.
We have a serious standoff regarding the definition, the usage of the phrase 'fruit of the Spirit'.
I would request that you avoid using a traditional interpretation of the text.
Stick with the natural reading of the text.
Baloney. As I showed in my thread, with clear source material, White was obssessed with trying to pinpoint when Jesus would return.
You denying it makes no difference. People around here during her lifetime often pointed out the craziness of her visions and prophecies and she responded at one point by saying those people would worship at the feet of SDA members. She did call herself God's messenger after all.
All of that is documented, written down and the date provided. Your own handling of the doctrines of SDA and the way you avoid questions and deny saying what you plainly did say, the way you try to gaslight people...ALL of that is typical of the way the truth is avoided by SDA adherents, who, espouse the false teachings of White.
That is not the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Inquisitor already listed what it really is Rob, and since that came directly from scripture, you must be wrong. Yes, you are wrong.
The problem is though, that you stay strong in the teachings of Ellen White who founded a cult and told people her visions and prophecies were what they needed to follow. The Bible took 2nd place to her and not even a close 2nd place.
You will not find that in any of her teachings she consistently said that everything must be reconcilled with God’s word- He always came first. You don’t know her or what was in her heart, or the millions of people you condemned that you haven’t a clue what they do or think or how they spend their time, these types of accusations are usually more revealing about the person making them than anything and where they are in their spiritual walk, God know it all and nothing you or I or EGW will be able to get away with anything. Anyone who reads her books will see plainly how much she loved and served the LORD. You are free to judge her all you want if that makes you feel better, but its not going to change God’s commandments and His standard of righteousness which God said includes His Sabbath Isa56:1-2 we will all have to stand before Him soon based on His standard of righteousness and every false accusation we make against another and everything we teach we will all be accountable to God. Mat5:19 Ecc12:13-14. I will keep you in my prayers.
The devil is really angry with the people of God who keep the commandments of God and the faith and testimony of Jesus. I guess we will all need to decide which side of the battle we are on. We can see the anger in these posts so we know it’s making someone really angry. I would rather have the wrath of the devil now, than God later Heb10:26-30
Rev12:17And the dragon was enraged with the woman (God’s church), and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
There is a spirit out there who doesn’t want us to serve the LORD Isa56:6 and keep His commandments. If it is making the devil angry praise be to the LORD!
Rev12:17And the dragon was enraged with the woman (God’s church), and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
There is a spirit out there who doesn’t want us to serve the LORD Isa56:6 and keep His commandments. If it is making the devil angry praise be to the LORD!
Glad you agreed that Exodus 24 and Exodus34 is the same covenant.
I don't see any change to the ten commandments?
They are the same commandments given to Israel and to no other nation.
The ten commandments were given to Israel at Mt Sinai and only to Israel.
The ten commandments were not given to Egypt or Rome.
Israel was in a blood covenant to obey the spoken ten commandments (Exodus 24).
Do not say that any nation outside of Israel was in a blood covenant to obey those laws.
Ellen White committed plagiarism and that is well known; she was called a literary thief by the media.
Ellen White and her husband, James White, did accuse each other of trying to control one another
during a tumultuous period in their marriage in the 1870s. Their correspondence during this time
revealed significant marital tension, with both accusing the other of attempting to dominate.
(Google)
No matter what you say or any traditional theologian might attempt to say.
The ten commandments were only given to Israel in a blood covenant.
Moses wrote the entire law (commandments, decrees) in one book of the covenant, in Exodus 24.
You must be in that old blood covenant to obey the law.
Same blood covenant repeated many times.
No distinction in Exodus 24 and Exodus 34.