I just don't see much future for potential replacements in the IRGC terrorism network business. It's all just temporary employment....like days or weeks.
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Agree 100%
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 12:3&version=KJV
There are many here that would argue with you about Luther. I agree with you. I didn't know he was a drunkard on top of everything else though.
I believe that the Church and Israel and the Jews have always been one and the same.
Abraham was a Gentile, so was Job and many others. We are all Gods people, regardless of ethnicity. The only thing that divides mankind is that some are the children of the Devil and others are the children of God.
As far as ethnicity goes, there are no Jews or Gentiles in Christ. We are all members of the same body.
We have a saying in our Church, "we are saved by grace, not by race".
Correct me if I'm wrong but to the best of my knowledge, neither Israel or the old covenant exist in the same way they did before Christ came.
The Church age began, after Christ finished His work of redemption and atonement. I'm sure you're aware of the fact that His own people "the Jews" rejected Him, so He went to the Gentiles.
In any case I'm sure you don't believe that God is going to give Israelis any special treatment, when He returns. He will judge both Jews and Gentiles by the same measure. All unbelieves will be cast into hell regardless of their ethnicity.
As I understand it God made many covenants, the first was the covenant of grace made for all mankind after Adam fell. Then there were many other covenants made with specific individuals and nations.
The original covenant of grace has always been relevant for binding for mankind as a whole, that's the covenant I believe to be the most important, as it transcends the ages and all the other covenants.
There have only been two covenants given to mankind, the first was the "covenant of the law" given to Adam and the "covenant of grace" given to everyone after Adam.
AWACS that got whacked. Looks like a pinpoint strike on the radar. I'd say it's headed to the scrap heap
Only a liberal mind would ask such a foolish question.
I'll post the scripture again and this time read it very very slowly and understand that the Lord is saying this:
Those that curse Israel will be cursed - Genesis 12:3
Only liberals would claim Jesus is a cross dresser
Here's another one they failed to believe:
Those that curse Israel will be cursed - Genesis 12:3
Yep it doesn't take much digging in to his life before you here what others during his time said about him saying he certainly enjoyed drinking a lot and was known to drink a lot and frequently.
Only the ones that embrace his heresy
No, not so much.
You did understand that most Jews reject Jesus as Lord and Savior right?
Romans 11:18-23
Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
And liberals rejoice that the US Air Force lost a plane.
But saddened that it was not full of US soldiers
God indeed will judge Jews by a different measure. Be glad of that. God's judgement on Israel is severe. That's why 6 million perished under Nazi rule.
When it comes to salvation, it is true that everyone is saved the same way. And all will be judged as sinners or saints without exception. Lord Jesus is returning to Jerusalem, to the Mount of Olives, not Washington or Los Angeles. He will rule and reign from Mount Zion, not London or Paris.
God's covenant with literal Israel has not changed. 1948 proved that. Israel exists now only by the power of God. Israel is a nation of 8 million Jews surrounded by 400 million hostile Muslims. They could raise armies that would flood Israel if they chose to. Why do they not? God protects Israel.
God will remove His protection during the Great Tribulation. Nations from the North will invade Israel, but God will step in to to destroy those armies. The millennial reign of Christ will begin and Satan cast into the bottomless pit.
Sure, most Jews rejected Jesus and Israel paid a terrible price. However, it was to Israel and the Jews that Jesus came. It was to Jews that He gave the responsibility to preach the gospel. God's plan and purpose for Israel has never changed and God's will shall be done. Jeremiah 33 includes this declaration
Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD,when I will fulfill the gracious promise that I have spoken to the house of Israel
and the house of Judah. In those days and at that time I will cause to sprout for David a righteous Branch, and He will administer justice and righteousness in the land. In those days Judah will be saved, and Jerusalem will dwell securely, and this is the name by which it will be called:The LORD Our Righteousness.
Read all of Jeremiah 33. God's plan for Israel will be fulfilled.
I don't believe that ones interpretation of eschatology is a salvific issue at all, I don't believe that salvation is a future event.
I believe a saved person cannot lose their salvation, so all of those verses above are merely exhortations to encourage believers to maintain their spiritual health.
We should be ready to die at all times, because tomorrow is promised to nobody. I don't believe in a "pre tribulation rapture", because 1 Thessalonians 4:17 says, Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 4:7 seems to indicate that the believers who are alive will be caught up to be with Christ and the dead who were resurrected first. This only makes sense if it occurs after the tribulation.
Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 26, disobedience to the covenant brings severe consequences from God. These curses include disease, famine, defeat by enemies, infertility, and ultimately being uprooted from their land and scattered among other nations, bringing "seven times" greater punishment if they still refuse to repent.
It was not God's will for 6 million to die like that and He had no hand in that happening to them.
They all died because as a nation they have rejected the Lord Jesus and as such they have sown to the flesh causing them to reap corruption.
So, just like all people that reject the Lord they are living in the devil's territory to they are subject to demonic wrath. This can also happen to Christians that backslide and stop abiding in Christ and start walking after the flesh (sin) which is why so many Christians die early because they are not walking with the Lord.
Hebrews 10:26-31
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
You're right it wasn't, I should have said there are three overreaching Covenants, all based on the Covenant of Grace.
1. The Covenant of Redemption (eternal), 2. the Covenant of Works (with Adam), and 3. the Covenant of Grace (post-fall).
These provide a framework for understanding salvation and history, often incorporating specific historical covenants (Noahic, Abrahamic, Mosaic, Davidic) as administrations of the Covenant of Grace.
The Covenant of Redemption: An eternal agreement made within the Trinity before creation, where the Father appoints the Son to redeem the elect.
Covenant of Works: Established with Adam in the Garden of Eden. Adam was promised eternal life for obedience but brought death to humanity upon disobedience.
Covenant of Grace: Introduced after the fall, this covenant offers salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, who fulfilled the Covenant of Works on behalf of sinners.
The subsequent biblical covenants are not distinct, or separate agreements, but they are progressive administrations (developments) of the one Covenant of Grace leading up to the New Covenant:
Actually there is the New Covenant and the old covenant.
Jesus came and did away with the old so He could establish the New Covenant.
Hebrews 3:5,6
And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
But Christ as a Son over His own house; whose house are we, IF we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
Now, there is a new house, the Body of Jesus Christ! Under the New Covenant that the Lord said would come forth, we see Jesus Christ as the High Priest. The old covenant with it’s laws and regulations have been taken away because thru Jesus Christ a new and better covenant has come in to place.
Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)
Hebrews 8:6
But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.
Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Thanks for taking the time to share your insight on this controversial matter. I wasn't able to find anything unbiblical, in anything you stated.
I have read through many of the posts on this topic and found a there are many opposing views and very few are in agreement.
I found many are holding on to both the old and new covenants, and combining them into one. And others believe that "ethnic Hebrews or Israelis or Jews" are still under a separate covenant to us Gentiles.
Exactly. It doesn't result in God cancelling the covenant. The things that are happening to the Jews and which have happened to the Jews over the last 2,000 years are the things that are in their covenant with God. The covenant is still active, and in the covenant it also says that after this punishment God will bring them back to the land, which happened in 1948. Now you are right about the 7x, if you look at the time frames given in Ezekiel for Judah and Israel to be punished for rejecting the Messiah, and if you use this formula of 7x worse if they don't you will see that this lands exactly on 1948 as the only possible year in which both Israel and Judah would return together to the land.
The Years of Punishment Prophecy (part 1)
This prophecy clearly points to the Lord’s second return in 2030.
House of Israel -- 10 tribes to the North
House of Judah -- Judah and Benjamin
Jeremiah 3:6 Moreover, the Lord said to me in the days of Josiah the king [of Judah], “Have you seen what that faithless Israel has done—how she went up on every high hill and under every green tree, and there she was a prostitute? 7 I thought, ‘After she has done all these things she will return to Me’; but she did not return, and her treacherous (faithless) sister Judah saw it. 8 And I saw [that even though Judah knew] that for all the acts of adultery (idolatry) of faithless Israel, I [the Lord] had sent her away and given her a certificate of divorce, yet her treacherous sister Judah was not afraid; but she went and was a prostitute also [following after idols]. 9 Because of the thoughtlessness of Israel’s prostitution [her immorality mattered little to her], she desecrated the land and committed adultery with [idols of] stones and trees. 10 Yet in spite of all this her treacherous sister Judah did not return to Me with her whole heart, but rather in [blatant] deception [she merely pretended obedience to King Josiah’s reforms],” declares the Lord.
Israel was divorced and scattered among the Gentiles where they remain to this day. This is why Jesus said:
Matthew 15:24 He answered, “I was commissioned by God and sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
The House of Judah did return to Israel after having been in Babylon, Israel didn’t. However, Judah did not repent with her whole heart.
Ezekiel 37 tells us that both Judah and Israel will be restored and return to the Lord together as one nation.
15 The word of the Lord came again to me, saying, 16 “And you, son of man, take a stick and write on it, ‘For Judah and for the children of Israel, his companions’; then take another stick and write on it, ‘For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and all the house of Israel, his companions.’ 17 Then join them together into one stick, so that they may become one in your hand. 18 When your people say to you, ‘Will you not tell us what you mean by these?’ 19 say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God, “Behold, I am going to take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel, his companions; and I will join the stick of Judah with it and make them one stick, and they will be one in My hand.”’ 20 The sticks on which you write shall be in your hand before their eyes. 21 Say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God, “Behold, I am going to take the children of Israel from among the nations where they have gone, and I will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; 22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king will be king over all of them; and they will no longer be two nations, and will no longer be divided into two kingdoms.
This takes place right after God raises them from their graves and brings them to Israel.
Ezekiel 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God, “Behold, I will open your graves and make you come up out of your graves, My people; and I will bring you [back home] to the land of Israel. 13 Then you will know [with confidence] that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves and made you come up out of your graves, My people. 14 I will put My Spirit in you and you will come to life, and I will place you in your own land. Then you will know that I the Lord have spoken, and fulfilled it,” says the Lord.’”
This ushers in the millennial kingdom of Jesus Christ.
24 “My servant David will be king over them, and they all will have one shepherd. They will also walk in My ordinances and keep My statutes and observe them. 25 They will live in the land where your fathers lived, [the land] that I gave to My servant Jacob, and they will live there, they and their children and their children’s children, forever; and My servant David will be their leader forever.
Most of the Jews are not walking in the ordinances and statutes and Jesus is not their leader. Before this can take place the punishment period needs to expire. They enter in on Jubilee year 120. So the question is if the year 2030 is the year the Bible says the punishment period will end and the same year as the 120th jubilee year.
The Years of Punishment Prophecy (part 2)
Ezekiel 4 tells us when the punishment years begin and when they will end.
Ezekiel 4:4 “Then lie down on your left side (toward the north) to bear [symbolically] the wickedness and punishment of the house of Israel. You shall bear their wickedness and punishment for the number of days that you lie on your side. 5 For I have assigned you the years of their wickedness and punishment, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days [representing three hundred and ninety years]; in this way you shall bear [symbolically] the wickedness and punishment of the house of Israel. 6 When you have completed these [days for Israel], lie down again, but on your right side (toward the south), and you shall bear the wickedness and punishment of the house of Judah forty days. I have assigned you one day for each year. 7 Then you shall set your face toward the siege of Jerusalem with your arm bared and prophesy against it. 8 Now behold, I will put ropes on you so that you cannot turn from one side to the other until you have completed the days of your siege.
9 “But as for you, take wheat, barley, beans, lentils, millet, and spelt, and put them into one vessel and make them into bread for yourself. You shall eat it according to the number of the days that you lie on your side, three hundred and ninety days. 10 The food you eat each day shall be [measured] by weight, twenty shekels, to be eaten daily at a set time. 11 You shall drink water by measure also, the sixth part of a hin; you shall drink daily at a set time.
390 days for the house of Israel representing 390 years.
40 days for the house of Judah representing 40 years.
Both punishments are related to a siege of Jerusalem. The 390 years of punishment began at the first siege of Jerusalem and the 40 years of punishment leads to the last siege of Jerusalem.
Leviticus 26:18 And I will kill her children (followers) with pestilence [thoroughly annihilating them], and all the churches will know [without any doubt] that I am He who searches the minds and hearts [the innermost thoughts, purposes]; and I will give to each one of you [a reward or punishment] according to your deeds.
The punishment was for 390 years but Israel still did not listen so it was increased sevenfold. The same is with Judah, they also did not listen and so their punishment was also increased sevenfold.
Ezekiel is told to turn his face towards the siege of Jerusalem, so the siege of Jerusalem is the starting point for each time of punishment. The punishment period begins when we see the punishment begin.
Ezekiel 4:1 “Now you, son of man, take a brick, place it before you and inscribe on it [a diagram of] the city of Jerusalem. 2 Then lay siege against it, build a siege wall, raise a ramp against it; set up [enemy] camps and place battering rams all around it. 3 Further, take an iron plate and place it as an iron wall between you and the city, and set your face toward it so that it is under siege, and besiege it. This is a sign to the house of Israel.
Ezekiel represents the siege, the brick is Jerusalem, and between the two there is an iron wall. This means this first siege does not break through the wall. They limit food and water, but the first siege is not successful. The punishment of Israel began at the first siege of Jerusalem by the Assyrians in 701 BCE. This was the first siege of Jerusalem and it was unsuccessful. This was the beginning of the punishment period for Israel. 311 BCE is 390 years after 701 BCE. Did Israel repent? No.
390 x 7 = 2730 years. 2730 + 701 BCE = 2030 AD (there is no 0 year).
2030 is the next available opportunity for Israel to repent, return to the Lord and be joined to Judah to enter into the reign of Jesus the Messiah according to Ezekiel 37.
Now let’s look at the punishment for the house of Judah.
Matthew 23:37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who murders the prophets and stones [to death] those [messengers] who are sent to her [by God]! How often I wanted to gather your children together [around Me], as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. 38 Listen carefully: your house is being left to you desolate [completely abandoned by God and destitute of His protection]! 39 For I say to you, you will not see Me again [ministering to you publicly] until you say, ‘Blessed [to be celebrated with praise] is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’”
Their punishment began in 30 AD when Jesus was crucified. According to the record they were punished for 40 years prior to the destruction of Jerusalem. The curtain separating the holy of holies was torn asunder. Every year for forty years the temple doors would not stay shut, the Menorah would not stay lit for forty years, the lot for the Lord always came up in the left hand for forty years and the Yom Kippur scarlet thread would not turn white for forty years.
They failed to repent and so the siege of Jerusalem in 70 AD and the destruction of Jerusalem began their 7 fold punishment period.
40x7=280, 280+70 = 350 AD.
Did they repent in 350 AD?
So then 280 x 7 = 1960 years. They have already served the first 280 year period.
1960 + 70 = 2030
2030 is the first and last time that Judah and Israel can repent, and be joined together as one stick. After this their punishment periods will not end at the same time. Both punishment periods would be multiplied by 7 and they will never mathematically sync up again.
While Ezekiel is laying on his side he is to only eat 20 shekels weight of food and ⅙ hin of water.
20 x 6 = 120. Pointing us to 120 jubilees.
120 x 50 = 6,000. Pointing us to the 6,000 years that to God is 6 days in which He creates a man.
Finally, the punishment period of the House of Israel is represented by his laying on his left side and the punishment period for the house of Judah is depicted by laying on his right side.
If we have a timeline the right side would begin after the siege of Israel, and the left side would begin before the siege of Israel, but that is because in the west we read from left to right. In Hebrew it is the opposite, they read from right to left. So then for the Jews this is the opposite, the punishment for Israel begins with the siege of Jerusalem, whereas the punishment for Judah begins 40 years before the siege of Jerusalem when they crucified Jesus.
So according to this timeline Israel will look on Jesus whom they have pierced and repent in 2030 AD, that is the midpoint of the seven year tribulation. As a result the Tribulation will begin in 2026.
Ezekiel 4 tells us when the punishment years begin and when they will end.
Ezekiel 4:4 “Then lie down on your left side (toward the north) to bear [symbolically] the wickedness and punishment of the house of Israel. You shall bear their wickedness and punishment for the number of days that you lie on your side. 5 For I have assigned you the years of their wickedness and punishment, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days [representing three hundred and ninety years]; in this way you shall bear [symbolically] the wickedness and punishment of the house of Israel. 6 When you have completed these [days for Israel], lie down again, but on your right side (toward the south), and you shall bear the wickedness and punishment of the house of Judah forty days. I have assigned you one day for each year. 7 Then you shall set your face toward the siege of Jerusalem with your arm bared and prophesy against it. 8 Now behold, I will put ropes on you so that you cannot turn from one side to the other until you have completed the days of your siege.
9 “But as for you, take wheat, barley, beans, lentils, millet, and spelt, and put them into one vessel and make them into bread for yourself. You shall eat it according to the number of the days that you lie on your side, three hundred and ninety days. 10 The food you eat each day shall be [measured] by weight, twenty shekels, to be eaten daily at a set time. 11 You shall drink water by measure also, the sixth part of a hin; you shall drink daily at a set time.
390 days for the house of Israel representing 390 years.
40 days for the house of Judah representing 40 years.
Both punishments are related to a siege of Jerusalem. The 390 years of punishment began at the first siege of Jerusalem and the 40 years of punishment leads to the last siege of Jerusalem.
Leviticus 26:18 And I will kill her children (followers) with pestilence [thoroughly annihilating them], and all the churches will know [without any doubt] that I am He who searches the minds and hearts [the innermost thoughts, purposes]; and I will give to each one of you [a reward or punishment] according to your deeds.
The punishment was for 390 years but Israel still did not listen so it was increased sevenfold. The same is with Judah, they also did not listen and so their punishment was also increased sevenfold.
Ezekiel is told to turn his face towards the siege of Jerusalem, so the siege of Jerusalem is the starting point for each time of punishment. The punishment period begins when we see the punishment begin.
Ezekiel 4:1 “Now you, son of man, take a brick, place it before you and inscribe on it [a diagram of] the city of Jerusalem. 2 Then lay siege against it, build a siege wall, raise a ramp against it; set up [enemy] camps and place battering rams all around it. 3 Further, take an iron plate and place it as an iron wall between you and the city, and set your face toward it so that it is under siege, and besiege it. This is a sign to the house of Israel.
Ezekiel represents the siege, the brick is Jerusalem, and between the two there is an iron wall. This means this first siege does not break through the wall. They limit food and water, but the first siege is not successful. The punishment of Israel began at the first siege of Jerusalem by the Assyrians in 701 BCE. This was the first siege of Jerusalem and it was unsuccessful. This was the beginning of the punishment period for Israel. 311 BCE is 390 years after 701 BCE. Did Israel repent? No.
390 x 7 = 2730 years. 2730 + 701 BCE = 2030 AD (there is no 0 year).
2030 is the next available opportunity for Israel to repent, return to the Lord and be joined to Judah to enter into the reign of Jesus the Messiah according to Ezekiel 37.
Now let’s look at the punishment for the house of Judah.
Matthew 23:37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who murders the prophets and stones [to death] those [messengers] who are sent to her [by God]! How often I wanted to gather your children together [around Me], as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. 38 Listen carefully: your house is being left to you desolate [completely abandoned by God and destitute of His protection]! 39 For I say to you, you will not see Me again [ministering to you publicly] until you say, ‘Blessed [to be celebrated with praise] is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’”
Their punishment began in 30 AD when Jesus was crucified. According to the record they were punished for 40 years prior to the destruction of Jerusalem. The curtain separating the holy of holies was torn asunder. Every year for forty years the temple doors would not stay shut, the Menorah would not stay lit for forty years, the lot for the Lord always came up in the left hand for forty years and the Yom Kippur scarlet thread would not turn white for forty years.
They failed to repent and so the siege of Jerusalem in 70 AD and the destruction of Jerusalem began their 7 fold punishment period.
40x7=280, 280+70 = 350 AD.
Did they repent in 350 AD?
So then 280 x 7 = 1960 years. They have already served the first 280 year period.
1960 + 70 = 2030
2030 is the first and last time that Judah and Israel can repent, and be joined together as one stick. After this their punishment periods will not end at the same time. Both punishment periods would be multiplied by 7 and they will never mathematically sync up again.
While Ezekiel is laying on his side he is to only eat 20 shekels weight of food and ⅙ hin of water.
20 x 6 = 120. Pointing us to 120 jubilees.
120 x 50 = 6,000. Pointing us to the 6,000 years that to God is 6 days in which He creates a man.
Finally, the punishment period of the House of Israel is represented by his laying on his left side and the punishment period for the house of Judah is depicted by laying on his right side.
If we have a timeline the right side would begin after the siege of Israel, and the left side would begin before the siege of Israel, but that is because in the west we read from left to right. In Hebrew it is the opposite, they read from right to left. So then for the Jews this is the opposite, the punishment for Israel begins with the siege of Jerusalem, whereas the punishment for Judah begins 40 years before the siege of Jerusalem when they crucified Jesus.
So according to this timeline Israel will look on Jesus whom they have pierced and repent in 2030 AD, that is the midpoint of the seven year tribulation. As a result the Tribulation will begin in 2026.