Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

[JustThinking]

Another attack from you. The Mormon church does not teach about the Davidic King, nor am I Mormon. And why would that even matter, but for an attack by you? And I did answer your demonic question, and I have answered it again. There is not one church teaching the doctrine of the Davidic King. I have told you that. Can you not read and understand scripture for yourself, or do you need some appointed leader to tell you what is being said?

And I am sure of the Savior's doctrine, and I am eagerly promoting that doctrine. Because no one else is doing that. So band to your self-aggrandizing cult of Mormon haters. And round and round you go, one cult hating another. In the meantime, you and your families follow the wide pathway to hell.

Open your eyes to the coming famine at our doors. And just so that you know, I have been teaching this for years. But now it is blatantly obvious. And you think you will be raptured to avoid the trouble. Do you not know Isaiah 28? You priests and prophets who have tables full of vomit, and have the contract with death that it will pass you by. But you will be taught by stammering lips, since you refuse to learn.

And yes, i know scripture. I know what is said about the Savior Jesus Christ and about John, his appointed latter-day Davidic King. And why, as you seem to indicate, should I be ashamed of these great kings? For I am not ashamed. So please do not attach the Mormon church to me in an attempt to throw me under the bus. Stand on your merritt of knowledge and address the topic at hand. But don't attack me as a Mormon in your demonic ploy.

Open your eyes to what is coming.

Well, let me first mention that I was not trying to offend you or attack you in any way, but I can understand you may be receiving certain questions and responses. I mentioned I had never heard your interpretations before and I was attempting to identify the organization that had taught you. The malicious or harmful intent that you have attached to my responses are only found within you- they are not within my words.

I would also like to comment that I do not hate Mormons - they are no different than any other religious organization. I may not know very much about their beliefs, but ALL people are placed on this earth by God.

By the way, it is okay to have different and even very different opinions or interpretations of Scripture. There are certainly many, many verses that are difficult to understand or unpack. But I believe there are too many that are quick to pull their sword out when their interpretation is challenged or not accepted.

No offense intended, but your sword is always out and in your hand and you are more than willing to strike. The anger and hate within you shows in every sentence. This is NOT an attack on you for their are so many others that have internal issues - and this can be found in ANY discussion, religious, in a business setting, politics, etc.

I have no desire to respond in kind. If you want to discuss a specific interpretation I am willing. Put your sword away. Thank you, and best wishes.

 

[Rondonmon]

You have the wedding, you have the judgment, you have the end of the beast and the false prophet, you have the dragon locked up for a thousand years, you have the first resurrection, and you have the end of all living humanity that was not invited to the wedding. The only ones left on the earth are the dead who were not written in the book of life.

What think you?

The "First Resurrection" is a type, it means all the righteous in Christ. That starts with the pre 70th week rapture of the bride, unto heaven, where we marry the lamb. The Saints of old (Israeli patriarchs) will be raised at the very end, they are the wheat that grows unto the end with the tares (world). We the church are the barley, it was cheaper because it di not needed to be crushed in order to be sifted, wheat has to be crushed, the very word tribulation comes from a Greek word for a machine used to crush wheat, called the Tribulum hence the tribulation is God causing Israel to be crushed, so she can be sifted (the 1/3 of Zech. 13:8-9 who repent).

The wedding in Rev. 19 comes before the Rev. 4:4 and Rev. 5:9-10 scenes, where we see the bride already has on her White Robes. The Judgement is Armageddon, but Armageddon is also the Marriage Supper, so the wedding happens in the "Fathers house" but the Wedding Feast always happened seven days later (7 years here). The Beast is killed in Rev. 16:19 that is the 7th Vial, which ends the 3rd Woe which emits from the 7th Trump. Rev. 11 (7th Trump blows/3rd Woe begins) Rev. 16:19 and Rev. 19:17-20 are all one and the same events.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

we the church are the barley, it was cheaper because it di not needed to be crushed in order to be sifted, wheat has to be crushed,

I think you're believing an urban legend. Both barley and wheat have to be threshed. Also, the barley harvest pertains to Christ, whereas wheat pertains to his body. Unleavened Bread and Firstfruits (when Christ was buried and rose again) were during the barley harvest and Pentecost (when his body was born from above) was during the wheat harvest.

 

[LTL]

Oh? You're one of those who think John is still alive on earth?

Okay. Now we are getting somewhere.

 

[LTL]

Well, let me first mention that I was not trying to offend you or attack you in any way, but I can understand you may be receiving certain questions and responses. I mentioned I had never heard your interpretations before and I was attempting to identify the organization that had taught you. The malicious or harmful intent that you have attached to my responses are only found within you- they are not within my words.

I would also like to comment that I do not hate Mormons - they are no different than any other religious organization. I may not know very much about their beliefs, but ALL people are placed on this earth by God.

By the way, it is okay to have different and even very different opinions or interpretations of Scripture. There are certainly many, many verses that are difficult to understand or unpack. But I believe there are too many that are quick to pull their sword out when their interpretation is challenged or not accepted.

No offense intended, but your sword is always out and in your hand and you are more than willing to strike. The anger and hate within you shows in every sentence. This is NOT an attack on you for their are so many others that have internal issues - and this can be found in ANY discussion, religious, in a business setting, politics, etc.

I have no desire to respond in kind. If you want to discuss a specific interpretation I am willing. Put your sword away. Thank you, and best wishes.

Very Good. We can visit as brothers in Christ. And yes, I am ready and willing to attack those who are against our Savior Jesus Christ. Chief among those are the leaders of the Mormon church, whom I despise. Nevertheless, I do hold my tongue when in public, except for my testimony in Jesus Christ.

The Savior likes me this way. So I declare his doctrine to save souls, of which yours is on the line. Not regarding salvation, because you have that intact, as do all who are on this site, having a testimony in Jesus Christ.

I am a voice warning of the impending doom. There is no pre-tribulation rapture, and anyone believing such a false doctrine as this is a fool. There is, however, a gathering of the 144,000, who are sealed to the Father (Rev. 14:1).

Secondly, there is a mid-trib gathering, but it is not a rapture from the earth.

And last of all, there is a rapture from the earth at the end of the seven years of tribulation and judgment.

Therefore, get your food and water in your home now. The overflowing scourage is right around the corner. Those who survive will be gathered according to the terms set by the Savior. Nevertheless, you will need to survive for approximately three years. Until we arrive at that midpoint harvest (Rev. 13:6-10).

And the food and water in you homes is just to get you by. Until the scourage is over. You will go into your home and close the door like Noah. And once safe, the Savior may have you exit like Lot. listen to the Spirit for guiadence.

 

[JustThinking]

Very Good. We can visit as brothers in Christ. And yes, I am ready and willing to attack those who are against our Savior Jesus Christ. Chief among those are the leaders of the Mormon church, whom I despise. Nevertheless, I do hold my tongue when in public, except for my testimony in Jesus Christ.

The Savior likes me this way. So I declare his doctrine to save souls, of which yours is on the line. Not regarding salvation, because you have that intact, as do all who are on this site, having a testimony in Jesus Christ.

I am a voice warning of the impending doom. There is no pre-tribulation rapture, and anyone believing such a false doctrine as this is a fool. There is, however, a gathering of the 144,000, who are sealed to the Father (Rev. 14:1).

Secondly, there is a mid-trib gathering, but it is not a rapture from the earth.

And last of all, there is a rapture from the earth at the end of the seven years of tribulation and judgment.

Therefore, get your food and water in your home now. The overflowing scourage is right around the corner. Those who survive will be gathered according to the terms set by the Savior. Nevertheless, you will need to survive for approximately three years. Until we arrive at that midpoint harvest (Rev. 13:6-10).

And the food and water in you homes is just to get you by. Until the scourage is over. You will go into your home and close the door like Noah. And once safe, the Savior may have you exit like Lot. listen to the Spirit for guiadence.

Thanks for your response. I guess the first question to ask you is to please tell me how you came to the conclusion there is a 7 year tribulation period at the end of time. I am very aware that almost all folks believe there is either a 7 year trib. or a 3.5 year trib., and they seem to all point back to the final week of the 70 weeks of years prophecy in Daniel 9...although they really do not offer the substance behind the comment. How do you come to this?

 

[memberofthebride]

Scripture plainly says that any believers on earth who are alive at his return will meet him in the air, not on the Mt of Olives.

3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee [to] the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, [and] all the saints with thee.

The dead first then those still alive rise to meet Christ in the clouds, from there they all land on the mount of olives and then the Battle of that Great Day of God Almighty begins.

 

[Rondonmon]

I think you're believing an urban legend. Both barley and wheat have to be threshed. Also, the barley harvest pertains to Christ, whereas wheat pertains to his body. Unleavened Bread and Firstfruits (when Christ was buried and rose again) were during the barley harvest and Pentecost (when his body was born from above) was during the wheat harvest.

Study it, I have been called to prophesy 43 plus years, i don't just guess brother. The Barley can be sifted without crushing it, or you can crush it tom get a better grain. But the barley was far cheaper because of this factoid. The wheat has a harder and can not be sifted the same way.

The barley harvest came first where they use a process called winnowing to toss the barley kernels into the wind to separate the kernel from the chaff. The head of the barley is very soft and easily. crushed.

The wheat harvest was next. Since the head of the wheat is hard, it must be threshed or crushed to separate the wheat from the chaff.

The 7 Feasts in full have a totally different meaning, Jesus must fulfill all 7, he has fulfilled the three spring feasts, (Passover, Unleavened and First-fruits of the grave) He is fulfilling the Feast of Weeks now, as our high priest in heaven, we are the body, and we are currently harvesting souls for the kingdom, the Harvest is the Church Age, one was separate from the other two, all alone in the Summer, the Gentile Church Age likewise is different from the other 6 Feasts which all pertain unto Israel. The reason Jesus said no man knows the DAY nor HOUR was he was pointing tom his return being on the Feast of Trumps, Paul thus cited the LAST TRUMP, he understood, that in the future, on a Feast of trumps day, when a New Moon comes in (Moen or appointed time by God according to the moon phases) God the Father will send Jesus back for his church/bride, on the 100th trump, the last trump. This ENDS THE HARVEST (Church Age) and now only 2 Feasts remain, the Feast of Atonement and the Feast of tabernacles.

Well, who has to repent before the 70th week can end? Israel, as Dan. 9:24-27 tells us. Thus Israel atones by Jesus' blood, he fulfills both the Trumps and Atonement, he calls the Church home and ends the Harvest season, his blood washes away the 1/3 (5 million Jews who repent). Finally, to TABERNACLE means to Dwell with God, and since Jesus is God the Redeemer/Son, Israel will rule with Jesus in Jerusalem for 1000 years.

 

[Psalm1]

The "First Resurrection" is a type, it means all the righteous in Christ. That starts with the pre 70th week rapture of the bride, unto heaven, where we marry the lamb. The Saints of old (Israeli patriarchs) will be raised at the very end, they are the wheat that grows unto the end with the tares (world). We the church are the barley, it was cheaper because it di not needed to be crushed in order to be sifted, wheat has to be crushed, the very word tribulation comes from a Greek word for a machine used to crush wheat, called the Tribulum hence the tribulation is God causing Israel to be crushed, so she can be sifted (the 1/3 of Zech. 13:8-9 who repent).

The wedding in Rev. 19 comes before the Rev. 4:4 and Rev. 5:9-10 scenes, where we see the bride already has on her White Robes. The Judgement is Armageddon, but Armageddon is also the Marriage Supper, so the wedding happens in the "Fathers house" but the Wedding Feast always happened seven days later (7 years here). The Beast is killed in Rev. 16:19 that is the 7th Vial, which ends the 3rd Woe which emits from the 7th Trump. Rev. 11 (7th Trump blows/3rd Woe begins) Rev. 16:19 and Rev. 19:17-20 are all one and the same events.

I agree in part with your post.
My ears perk up with the wedding dynamic.
Almost nobody here gets it.
The bride and groom are actually the center of end times.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

He is fulfilling the Feast of Weeks now, as our high priest in heaven

Pentecost had nothing to do with the high priest making atonement for his people. That is the day of atonement which began to be fulfilled when Jesus ascended to the throne of God with his blood, has continued for nearly 2000 years and will culminate when he exists the temple to send the scapegoat away and execute judgment against the wicked.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee [to] the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, [and] all the saints with thee.

The dead first then those still alive rise to meet Christ in the clouds, from there they all land on the mount of olives and then the Battle of that Great Day of God Almighty begins.

That translation comes from a corrupted text that was altered to conform with Jewish tradition

Explained here:

Deciphering Zechariah 14:5

An indepth analysis of Zechariah 14:5

zechariahfourteenfive.wordpress.com

 

[memberofthebride]

That translation comes from a corrupted text that was altered to conform with Jewish tradition

Explained here:

Deciphering Zechariah 14:5

An indepth analysis of Zechariah 14:5

zechariahfourteenfive.wordpress.com

I have a new translation, The Complete Jewish Study Bible, it follows the KJV closely, I will stick with it.
Do you remember the angels that spoke to Peter and the others, they said Christ would return from where He left, in clouds from the mount of olives and would return the same way.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I have a new translation, The Complete Jewish Study Bible, it follows the KJV closely, I will stick with it.
Do you remember the angels that spoke to Peter and the others, they said Christ would return from where He left, in clouds from the mount of olives and would return the same way.

It says he will return in the same manner he left, ie. in clouds, not where he will return to.

Try the 1992 version of Tanakh The Holy Scriptures published by the Jewish Publication Society. It doesn't follow the King James

 

[memberofthebride]

It says he will return in the same manner he left, ie. in clouds, not where he will return to.

Try the 1992 version of Tanakh The Holy Scriptures published by the Jewish Publication Society. It doesn't follow the King James

the mount of olives was a major location everything Christ did,

 

[LTL]

Thanks for your response. I guess the first question to ask you is to please tell me how you came to the conclusion there is a 7 year tribulation period at the end of time. I am very aware that almost all folks believe there is either a 7 year trib. or a 3.5 year trib., and they seem to all point back to the final week of the 70 weeks of years prophecy in Daniel 9...although they really do not offer the substance behind the comment. How do you come to this?

Although the 70 weeks are important, this period is not critical to our survival. Rather, it is the 3.5 years dominated by the beast and his false prophet, as shown in Rev. 13:5
5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Verse 13:5 is speaking about the beast of Rev. 13:1, and his false prophet of Rev. 13:11.

The 3.5-years (42 months) of Rev. 13:5 is the tribulation era. It is here that the beast arises, and his false prophet does his work against the saints of God. However, toward the end of that 3.5-year tribulation of saints comes the Savior's army of 144,000. This rescuing army is the answer to the prayers of the saints, linking Rev. 13:10 to Rev. 14:12.
13:10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
14:12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

This is the harvest of saints that begins the end of the tribulation.
Rev. 14:14-16, the harvest of saints
Rev. 14:17-20, the winepress ending the beast and his false prophet.
And the tribulation is over, and the 144,000 with the saints of God await (Rev. 15), the coming judgment (Rev. 16).

The above story is played out in a total of four storylines in the Book of Revelation. The above chapters (13, 14, 15, and 16) are in the mark of the beast storyline that begins at Chapter 12.

In the trumpets storyline, Chapters 8-11, the judgment is identified as the 3.5 years at Rev. 11:3
11:3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Thus, the 3.5-year tribulation leads to the construction of the temple in the 3.5-year judgment. It is during this time that the 70 weeks apply.

Nevertheless, the destruction of the saints of God is in the tribulation, not the judgment.

 

[LTL]

To recap:
1) The world economy (Babylon) falls (Rev. 18:2)
2) The U. S. descends into a state of civil war (Isa. 19:1-4)
3) The beast (Rev. 13:1) enters North America.
4) Europe and the world enter into a communist style economic system called the mark of the beast economic system (Rev. 13:11-18)
5) The tribulation has begun, and the saints of God are hunted for their defiance (Rev. 13:6-8)
6) The 144,000 have been taken on an exodus (Rev. 12:6), to organize them into the representatives of Jesus Christ.
7) The saints of God are gathered (Rev. 14:14-16)
8) The beast and false prophet are destroyed (Rev. 14:17-20)
9) The midpoint (Rev. 15)
10) The defining judgment upon the world.
11) The rapture from the earth
12) The wrath of God wherein the earth is burned.

 

[JustThinking]

Although the 70 weeks are important, this period is not critical to our survival. Rather, it is the 3.5 years dominated by the beast and his false prophet, as shown in Rev. 13:5
5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Verse 13:5 is speaking about the beast of Rev. 13:1, and his false prophet of Rev. 13:11.

The 3.5-years (42 months) of Rev. 13:5 is the tribulation era. It is here that the beast arises, and his false prophet does his work against the saints of God. However, toward the end of that 3.5-year tribulation of saints comes the Savior's army of 144,000. This rescuing army is the answer to the prayers of the saints, linking Rev. 13:10 to Rev. 14:12.
13:10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
14:12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

This is the harvest of saints that begins the end of the tribulation.
Rev. 14:14-16, the harvest of saints
Rev. 14:17-20, the winepress ending the beast and his false prophet.
And the tribulation is over, and the 144,000 with the saints of God await (Rev. 15), the coming judgment (Rev. 16).

The above story is played out in a total of four storylines in the Book of Revelation. The above chapters (13, 14, 15, and 16) are in the mark of the beast storyline that begins at Chapter 12.

In the trumpets storyline, Chapters 8-11, the judgment is identified as the 3.5 years at Rev. 11:3
11:3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Thus, the 3.5-year tribulation leads to the construction of the temple in the 3.5-year judgment. It is during this time that the 70 weeks apply.

Nevertheless, the destruction of the saints of God is in the tribulation, not the judgment.

Ok and thanks for your response. My first questions was to try and learn how you came up with a 7 year tribulation period. And I think you added to separate 3.5 year periods from the chapters / verses in Revelation. I have also never seen that before since, as I had mentioned, most attribute the 7 years to the final week of the prophecy in chapter 9 of Daniel. You have found the 7 years in Revelation!

So, yes, you certainly answered the question but I was not expected an answer that did not speak to chapter 9. And this now has me asking you to return back to Daniel 9 and the most important Messianic prophecy in the entire Scripture, to me, of the 70 weeks of years prophecy. Before I could begin to discuss with you the interpretations of Revelation, I would like / need to try and understand more of your thoughts on Daniel 9.

Would you mind going back to chapter 9 in Daniel and, before we discuss the "details" of this chapter, we might discuss the "big picture" of this chapter? Specifically, the purpose of the 70 weeks of years prophecy, it's beginning and ending dates, what is to be accomplished within this 490 year timeframe, and what was, if anything, fulfilled or left unfulfilled by the end of the 490 years.

Look forward to your response and thanks.

 

[LTL]

Ok and thanks for your response. My first questions was to try and learn how you came up with a 7 year tribulation period. And I think you added to separate 3.5 year periods from the chapters / verses in Revelation. I have also never seen that before since, as I had mentioned, most attribute the 7 years to the final week of the prophecy in chapter 9 of Daniel. You have found the 7 years in Revelation!

So, yes, you certainly answered the question but I was not expected an answer that did not speak to chapter 9. And this now has me asking you to return back to Daniel 9 and the most important Messianic prophecy in the entire Scripture, to me, of the 70 weeks of years prophecy. Before I could begin to discuss with you the interpretations of Revelation, I would like / need to try and understand more of your thoughts on Daniel 9.

Would you mind going back to chapter 9 in Daniel and, before we discuss the "details" of this chapter, we might discuss the "big picture" of this chapter? Specifically, the purpose of the 70 weeks of years prophecy, it's beginning and ending dates, what is to be accomplished within this 490 year timeframe, and what was, if anything, fulfilled or left unfulfilled by the end of the 490 years.

Look forward to your response and thanks.

As you know, Jerusalem has a period of time to repent (Dan. 9:24). After Jerusalem repents, then the "most holy" can be anointed. This is the "most holy" in the temple. Therefore, the temple is to be constructed.

The period of time for the temple construction, as well as the surrounding city, and the anointing of the most holy, is 7 weeks, and 62 weeks, making the total 69 weeks.

However, the 7 weeks and 62 weeks are reversed. Therefore, the 62 weeks is first, followed by the 7 weeks.

Between the 62 weeks and the 7 weeks is the Passion Week. This is similar to the Passion Week at the time when Jesus was killed and put in the tomb.

Thus, 62 weeks to do the work, and 1 week to confirm the covenant, and last of all is seven weeks ending in Pentecost.

As types and shadows go, the Savior's 70 weeks is a type of these latter-day 70 weeks as the shadow.

Go Figure. The Savior has a real sense of humor. The whole thing makes me laugh. It is simply beautiful!

 

[JustThinking]

As you know, Jerusalem has a period of time to repent (Dan. 9:24). After Jerusalem repents, then the "most holy" can be anointed. This is the "most holy" in the temple. Therefore, the temple is to be constructed.

Thanks for you response. If you do not mind, because we have very different interpretation, I believe it might be necessary to take each one of your comments and discuss them... the first comment above is 9:24 and it appears you interpret this as a requirement of the Jews not the 6 requirements the Messiah came to fulfill during the 3.5 years. So, let's focus on this issue and I would ask that you might read the narrative below to understand my position on this. I would like your comments and thought on this as well as your understanding of why you believe 9:24 is not Messianic. Thanks.


In Daniel 9:24–27, Gabriel delivers a prophecy of profound importance—one that sits at the very center of God’s redemptive plan. While the angel begins by addressing the restoration of Jerusalem and the physical elements needed by the end of the 69th week, the heart of the prophecy lies not in the rebuilding of a city, but in what will unfold during the final week—the last seven years. It is within this week that the mareh vision, the focused revelation of the Messiah’s mission, reaches its fulfillment.

This final week carries the weight of six specific requirements—each one so significant that only the Messiah Himself can accomplish them. These are not arbitrary tasks; they are the final, divinely ordained steps in restoring fallen humanity to righteousness—a righteousness that mirrors the harmony once known in Eden. The prophecy makes clear that this work of restoration would unfold through the Jewish people and within God’s holy city, Jerusalem. Yet this plan would come at a staggering cost. The sacrifice of the Jewish people, through their unbelief, opened the way for the Messiah—the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob—to be given to the world as the ultimate atonement for sin. This was not a tragic accident, nor was it a matter of human will overpowering divine authority. It was preordained from the beginning, part of a sovereign plan in which God would use Israel’s rejection to bring salvation to the nations (Romans 11:11–12). The Jews were not given a choice in this moment—just as none of us could ever choose to deserve Christ’s sacrifice. And while we cannot earn His grace, we also cannot repay the cost borne by the Jewish people, whose role in God’s plan remains both sobering and sacred.

Verse 24 opens this passage with a foundational declaration—one that reveals three vital elements:

The duration of the prophecy is seventy weeks of years, or 490 literal years.​

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The prophecy is directed specifically toward Daniel’s people (the Jews) and their holy city (Jerusalem).​

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Within the final week, six divine objectives will be fulfilled by the Messiah, culminating in spiritual restoration.​

These four verses—Daniel 9:24–27—act as a divine blueprint, laying out the time boundaries and structural framework for the Messiah’s mission. Just as the metal-man image in Daniel 2 offered a defined physical structure for understanding the rise and fall of earthly kingdoms, so Daniel 9 provides a precise time structure—unchangeable, deliberate, and divinely measured. Within each of these time segments, God reveals the actors, events, and outcomes that will unfold. Nothing is vague or abstract. Every moment is purposeful. Every fulfillment is exact.

This prophecy is not merely about predicting the future—it is about unveiling the very heart of God’s plan for salvation. It confirms that the coming of the Messiah was never random. It was revealed to the very year. It affirms that His mission would not be military or political, but spiritual—focused on atonement, righteousness, and reconciliation. And most importantly, it makes clear that God’s ultimate goal was always restoration—not just of Jerusalem, but of the entire human race.


Again, the remaining comments (below) can be discussed after the 9:24 verse.....

The period of time for the temple construction, as well as the surrounding city, and the anointing of the most holy, is 7 weeks, and 62 weeks, making the total 69 weeks.

However, the 7 weeks and 62 weeks are reversed. Therefore, the 62 weeks is first, followed by the 7 weeks.

Between the 62 weeks and the 7 weeks is the Passion Week. This is similar to the Passion Week at the time when Jesus was killed and put in the tomb.

Thus, 62 weeks to do the work, and 1 week to confirm the covenant, and last of all is seven weeks ending in Pentecost.

As types and shadows go, the Savior's 70 weeks is a type of these latter-day 70 weeks as the shadow.

Go Figure. The Savior has a real sense of humor. The whole thing makes me laugh. It is simply beautiful!

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Could the Millennial Kingdom already have happened, and we are in Rev 20:7?

Revaltion isn’t a timeline it consists of many visions John sees that aren’t linear but rather they are meant to be layered and considered together


Ever notice for instance there is a vision of the lamb receiving a book that has seven seals and then he opens the seals and all these different events happen yet when you reach the 6th seal the event resembles the end of the world ? Showing the heavens disappearing and the mountains moving and the people fleeing in terror ? Then there’s a vision of a chosen number of Israel’s tribes being sealed then the 7 th seal begins a period of silence in heaven ?

then there’s a vision of seven angels having seven trumpets and as each sounds a bunch more apacalyptic events happen ? The earth and trees and animals are being burned up by these four deadly angels bent on destruction . Notice what’s happening in this vision all the things Hod created in the beginning are now being destroyed but all the sudden those heavenly bodies that were gone in revelation 6 the heavens and stars now ots back to showing them being partially destroyed ?

As this vision reaches its end you again see what seems like the end of the world and it’s talking again about the day of wrath has come it’s saying the kingdoms of the world are now the kingdoms of the lord and he’s reigning with his power and it’s saying now it’s judgement time ect but note Thisnos again occurring just as it had happened in the prior vision of the seven seals near its end

Now the vials

You see those who had been on the struggle with the beast standing on a sea of glass singing (the song of Moses ) which was given to the tribes of Israel based upon the law . And also the song of the lamb given to all nations and peoples.

But as the vials are poured out again you see the order happening the same way but at the end of this vision comes again a great earthquake unlike others voices and thundering and hail ect and then again the mountains and hills and rocks are moved

Then in 19 you see the son of man retirn from heaven in yet another vision . Leading to agaon an apacalyptic event culminating in wrath and judgement which was at the end of each vision beforehand the seals and trumpets and vials

It’s not a linear and singular vision each vision is a layer not meant to be looked at as a single vision but several and not linear in order but as you would stack transparencies one over another to see more of an image because each holds different details of the same story


Near the end it’s said