Some thoughts on the Sabbath...

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"If" what I have read is true, the tiny nation of Israel is very sinful, which would be why the Jews are again destroyed and taken into captivity. IF? but prophecy is true, so I would believe they are, once again, going into captivity.

Their captivity is of its self...believing man (rabbi) rather than God. But that's another topic
 
Today, the Seventh day is a Saturday for the Jewish people. The Seventh day is a Sunday for most of the Gentile world. Back when the Fourth Commandment was given, the Jewish people gave numbers to the calendar days.
The first day is Sunday

Ask Google. Even the non Jewish nations see Sunday as the first day of the week.

God said the 7th day is the sabbath. Not the 1st day.
 
The first day is Sunday

Ask Google. Even the non Jewish nations see Sunday as the first day of the week.

God said the 7th day is the sabbath. Not the 1st day.
Again, the Jewish calendar numbers the days of the week: Day One, Day Two etc. The Jewish people rest on the Seventh day of the week, which is called Sabbath day -- a day of rest. Gentiles are not obligated to rest on any day of the week at all. There is nothing in the Bible that tells us to rest on the Seventh day of the week. Resting on the Seventh day of the week is a Jewish "statute" not a Jewish commandment.

The day of the week is irrelevant for a Gentile follower of Jesus because we are free in Christ. We have no obligation to perform any form of religious ritual at all.
 
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""Biblical morality is rooted in the conviction that God Himself reveals what is good, not through myth or ritual but through commandments, statutes, and ordinances that express His character.""

Yes, now we agree on something;

we are to put on HIS HOLY DIVINE NATURE as expressed and revealed by His commandments, statutes and Judgements.

If our Father does not reveal what we are to be like ---how we are to live -- the rules that produce perfect results --- we are doomed.
not one of us could ever, in 6000 years, ever figure it out.

Only by the POWER of His Spirit working in us, is that possible.
The N C and the sacrifice of Jesus Christ is what made the Holy Spirit available to us, with out that power -- we are dead for eternity.
Why do you feel the need to have rules to follow? In my view, God wants us to learn wisdom and we do what is right because we have learned what is right. We don't obey rules; we obey principles.
 
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Why do you feel the need to have rules to follow? In my view, God wants us to learn wisdom and we do what is right because we have learned what is right. We don't obey rules; we obey principles.

How will you learn what is right??,, we are now at the end of 6000 years and about to blow up the planet -- the human race has learn how to kill and that is about it.

You think you're smart enough to learn what is right --- show me one person that has reached that point? Ever!
there is one --- and one only -- - Jesus Christ but He was following the Father's will, not His own.
Even Moses did not make it. but you can??

good luck
 
It says they were at the temple continually. That's where the spirit was poured out

they were not at the temple and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

so again, why did the women rest on the Sabbath as per the Commandment and why did they gather on Pentecost which is always on the first day of the week?

Why, if Christ was abolishing the Torah? didn't they get the memo?
Feast of Weeks (Shevuot)Sivan 8, 3791June 17, 31AD
 
They were sitting in the house of God under the porch where all of the different sects gathered, prayed and taught. The spirit would not have been poured out on a private dwelling

#3624 oikos: House, household, home, family

I doubt the Temple was called the family, home, household

The Torah, the Commandment, the Sabbath, the 7 Holy Feasts of God were never abolished
I have been observing them since 1969, I will be at Pentecost, Sunday the 24th,

If the 13 Apostles had been taught by Jesus Christ that everything they had observed all their lives was now abolished ---
Where are the new instructions concerning easter, sunday, Xmas etc. and how followers were now to worship this NEW WAY?

Where are we instructed to follow a brand new way of worship no one had ever heard of before?
A change this huge and no mention?? No clear instructions .

like, "we now will keep easter on the first sunday after whatever?"
or "this is the way to observe the Saviors birthday? we give each other presents around a decorated tree with a star on top."

Sorry, I can find nothing, zero, the tens of thousands of christian churches are doing taught or mentioned in the WORD of GOD.

I know this will not change even one mind including yours.
 
Again, the Jewish calendar numbers the days of the week: Day One, Day Two etc. The Jewish people rest on the Seventh day of the week, which is called Sabbath day -- a day of rest. Gentiles are not obligated to rest on any day of the week at all. There is nothing in the Bible that tells us to rest on the Seventh day of the week. Resting on the Seventh day of the week is a Jewish "statute" not a Jewish commandment.

The day of the week is irrelevant for a Gentile follower of Jesus because we are free in Christ. We have no obligation to perform any form of religious ritual at all.
Mark 2:27 And He said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. 28Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.”

The Sabbath was made for man not for the Jews...at creation.
 
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#3624 oikos: House, household, home, family

I doubt the Temple was called the family, home, household

And many nations shall go, and say, Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house (οἶκος) of the God of Jacob; and they shall shew us his way, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Sion shall go forth a law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. Micah 4:2
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house (οἶκος) of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15
 
If I understand you correctly, a follower of Jesus Christ does not actually follow, they are led by the Holy Spirit along an unknown path, no rules, no instructions?

That Christ did not give us clear instructions as to HOW to follow Him correctly,
Rules to guide us as we walk on that narrow difficult path? No instruction as how to avoid sin, how to live in righteousness, godliness?

Sir, If I did not have that ONE Spirit of my Father in me – there is no way I would be here saying things that are the direct opposite of what the majority on this site accepts as truth.

After preaching and warning to tens of thousands, there were only 120 at Pentecost, that despised “Jew” day, the 120 assembled to observe as Commanded. Christ’s few! I will remain as one of THE FEW, gladly.

Why, if Christ removed/abolished the Torah, changed everything, were they there on that day?

Why, after Christ had taught for 3 ½ years, was it reported in the N T that they rested on the Sabbath after Christ’s death 56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment. Are we to believe Christ forgot to mention the Sabbath was no more, He fulfilled it, done, gone?

I will obey my Master and obey the same exact law He obeyed to perfection.

Sorry, I will never be “born again”, I will wait for the First Resurrection when I will be “born from above” in to Spirit, born into the Family of God. Actually, I am not at all sorry.
You are deluded. You are lost and you will face God as judge, not as justifier. You are kidding yourself if you think you are obeying Christ. You do not have the ability to keep even the law of Moses. God's standard of righteousness is much higher than the written law.

People like you get salvation back to front. You think that you must live the righteous life in order to be saved. In reality, it is the reverse. You need to be born again before you have the enabling to live righteously. The Holy Spirit is in effect the Lord Jesus.

God's word, especially the New Testament, is written to those who are born again. Do you not know that the last word that Lord Jesus gave to the 12 was to bring in the New Covenant in His blood? Do you not know that Lord Jesus cried out, "It is finished!" from the cross, just before He died? I am not trying to condemn you. You do that yourself. I am trying to save you. It grieves me to know that you are so near to the truth and yet so far from God.

Remember the words of Christ: "You must be born again". And Hebrews tells us that the time of salvation is Now.
 
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But the laws are given to clearly define what sin is. The 10 commandments are clearly a higher set of principles to point out sin. By faith in Jesus and love for Him we can recieve strength to obey the Law.
Once again TMS, are there 10 sins according to the ten commandments that we only need to heed?
 
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When you say "sin is lawlessness" does that mean that the only definition of sin, is if it is listed in the
ten words?
Yes, the ten commandments are an exceeding broad and perfect standard of righteousness that prohibits every evil thing and defines every duty required of humanity.
The law is Broad, and the Complete Definition of Sin. Sin is defined exclusively as the transgression of the law, and without this law, there can be no knowledge of what constitutes sin, 1 John 3:4
Although the words are few, the matter contained within the ten commandments is infinite, and there is no duty required nor sin forbidden by God that does not fall under at least one of these ten precepts.

Says Thomas Scott, “This law which is so comprehensive, that we cannot measure it.” See Commentary. Bishop Hopkins on the ten commandments, published by the American Tract Society, says, “There is no duty required, nor sin forbidden by God, but it falls under one, at least, of these ten words.” Again, he says, “The words are few; but the sense and matter contained in them is infinite, the rest of Scripture is but a commentary upon them, either exhorting us to obedience by arguments, or alluring us to it by promises, warning us against transgression by threatenings, or exciting us to the one, and restraining us from the other, by examples recorded in the historical part of it. All those precepts which are dispersed in the Scriptures, and which concern the regulating of our lives and actions, although not found expressly mentioned in the decalogue, may yet very aptly be reduced under one of these ten commandments.”
The 10 commandments are the Standard of Judgment. Because the law is so comprehensive, it will be the criterion of judgment by which the doom of the world is irrevocably fixed. James 2:12.

While the ten commandments reveal sin and show that we are transgressors, they do not point out a way of escape or provide a Savior. That's were Jesus comes to our rescue.
 
The definition of a righteous life is...
Jesus .... or " an existence anchored in moral integrity, ethical behavior, and alignment with a higher set of principles. It is defined by justice, compassion, honesty, and actively contributing to the well-being of others, ".

The law you say is useless when it comes to a righteous life. Except it points out a limited set of sins.

It can not change our heart and cause us to live a righteous life.. only God can do that.

But the laws are given to clearly define what sin is. The 10 commandments are clearly a higher set of principles to point out sin. By faith in Jesus and love for Him we can recieve strength to obey the Law.

A righteous life is a beautiful journey of walking with God, empowered by the very life and obedience of Jesus Christ dwelling within us.
To live righteously is to choose the path of life and blessing, acknowledging that we have no power of our own to be holy, but rather receiving His strength moment by moment.

By beholding Jesus—His humility, patience, and love—we become changed into His likeness and enabled to live the life He lived, John 15:10.

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Eph 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

1Pe 1:15-16
15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

How can we know what is righteous and Holy and Good without a standard.
Christ was our example, and the law is what defines sin.

It does not save us and we can not save ourselves by keeping it .... Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

This verse is not saying the law is made void. It is not saying the law is obsolete and useless. It is saying that we can not save ourselves by keeping the Law.

If obeying the law was the means of salvation then Jesus would not have needed to give His blood. If i could obey the law to gain righteousness and pay for my salvation then i would not need a saviour. By dieing for us Jesus paid the price of transgressing the law. The law reveals sin and Jesus saves us from the sin. But if the law is obsolete and removed then Jesus would not have needed to die for us, (no law =no sin). It is by grace that the penalty of transgressing the law is paid.

The law is not useless
But the law can not save us.
*Yawn* Why do not quote all the scripture regarding the Law? Obviously you have a selective gospel that suits you. It does not suit God. Beholding Jesus? Sounds good. But you behold the Law instead. The law has done its job when we get born again. Then it is no longer applicable. It's in your Bible too.

"For through the law I died to the law so that I might live to God." Galatians 2:19. Tell me what laws apply to dead people?

"But now, having died to what bound us, we have been released from the law, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code." Romans 7:6. Just in case you did not understand the previous verse

"All who rely on works of the law are under a curse. For it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” Now it is clear that no one is justified before God by the law, because, “The righteous will live by faith.” The law, however, is not based on faith; on the contrary, “The man who does these things will live by them.” Galatians 3: 1-12
When you follow the law, you are not living by faith. That means that you are not pleasing God.

"Before this faith came, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian." Galatians 3:23-25

The law does not save us and neither does it make us righteous. "Whoever keeps the whole law but stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it." James 2:10 Don't tell me that you keep God's law perfectly

"But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law." Galatians 5:18 If you are not led by the Spirit then you can ignore everything I've said.

"For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God." Romans 8:14 If you are not led by the Spirit then you are not saved.

See? It's not that hard. God's word is clear, if you study it correctly.​
 
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