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Free will is gift given to man by God. Man has free will because he is made in Gods image, and God has free will.
Man has the ability to make choices. His choices are not free of his nature. This, BTW, is true of God. He cannot sin because of His nature. That's why becoming partakers of the divine nature is so valuable to men.
 
I dunno. But I can think of some pretty goatish nations right now :unsure:

In the United States we have some very goatish states.
But within each state there will be sheep.

God will separate the goats from the sheep where ever they will be found.
 
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I was talking about the natural man in relation to the free will fantasy these FWers have.

It is out of man's nature that he makes choices, and with the heart that one believes... the free will
proponents essentially assert that the incurably wicked heart of the natural/unregenerated man is
free to choose to believe that which he is not only opposed to, but that which he can neither receive/
accept nor comprehend. They have the man with zero wisdom acting wise to do God's will when
Scripture says that man cannot. And their idea of wisdom is that person choosing to believe what they
hear as foolishness. They reject what Jesus said about it being impossible for a bad tree to bring forth
good fruit, and there are none good, no, not one! But they reject a whole slew of Scriptures from beginning
to end of the Bible, such as nothing good lives in man's flesh, and flesh serves the law of sin, and brings
forth fruit unto death, all in favour of a doctrine that has zero support in the Bible, with not one verse
articulating what they prefer over what is actually said. In fact they routinely contradict and deny what
is explicitly stated, and really seem unable to stop ascribing to the unregenerated man qualities,
characteristics, and abilities that only the regenerated person is in possession of. Some of these
people are so liberated in their thinking against Biblical truth that they routinely blaspheme God
and freely and repeatedly slander those they disagree with.

Because you ignore Scripture the FWers cite and never make a panel quoting them.
 
Very funny - not that we are all powerful but that we have free will
Slaves to sin are free? My Bible says the person without Christ does not belong to Him and that those given to Him come,
not those under the power and control of the devil blinded to truth, slaves to sin opposed to the Spiritual things of God
who can neither receive nor comprehend the Spiritual things of God. They hear the gospel message as foolishness.
They refuse to come into the Light because that is their nature as lovers of darkness~ defined as darkness itself.

Paul did not teach free will of the natural man. He knew better.
 
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This is a rather easy question to answer. The answer is yes.

Hebrews 11:6

And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

So who does God seek to save?

Whoever seeks to draw near to God.

No election needed.

And that is the Good News.

No. Anyone who truly seeks to draw near to God has already been saved, not the other way around. Since Christ alone is the Savior—the author (pioneer) and finisher (perfecter) of faith—true faith can exist only where Christ is present. This shows that such a person is saved, because Christ does not give true faith to everyone. Therefore, those who truly seek God do so because of that faith; without Christ, a person does not possess true, lasting faith. As verse Rom 3:11 indicates, the natural, unsaved man does not truly seek after God, because they lack the spiritual understanding and discernment needed to do so.

[Rom 3:11 KJV] 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

[Heb 12:2 KJV] 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of [our] faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

[Heb 12:2 NIV] 2 fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
 
Then you are saying He failed His intention and purpose !
Is God's will always followed? Do all believers give thanks in everything? Of course not, we should, but fail miserably.

18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
 
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The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8 v 6-8 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 2 v 13-14
 
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John 3 verse 6, Romans 8 verse 7, Galatians 5 verse 17, 2 Timothy 3 verse 13, Romans 3 verse 18 ~ Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. The mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. The flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are opposed to each other. Evil men and imposters go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. There is no fear of God before their eyes.
 
If it be fated that this man, e.g., be good and the other evil, neither is the former meritorious nor the latter to be blamed. And again unless the human race have the power of avoiding evil and choosing good by free choice, they are not accountable for their actions, of whatever kind they be. ... For neither would he be worthy of reward or praise did he not of himself choose the good, but were created for this end; nor, if he were evil, would he be worthy of punishment, not being evil of himself, but being able to be nothing else than what he was made for.

The First Apology of Justin Martyr (chap 43)

An example of what the early church believed
 
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There is no one who understands, no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one. For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will. Romans 3 verses 11-12; Romans 8 verses 5-8; 2 Timothy 2 verses 25-26
 
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from Ephesians 4 verses 17-19 ~ Gentiles walk in the futility of their thinking. They are darkened in their understanding and alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardness of their hearts. Having lost all sense of shame, they have given themselves over to sensuality for the practice of every kind of impurity, with a craving for more.
 
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from Romans 5 v 10 / John 8 v 31b-32/ Ephesians 5 v 8/ 1 Thessalonians 5 v 5/ Romans 6 v 18 / John 8 v 36 ~ While we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son. “If you continue in My word, you are truly My disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” You were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light. You are all sons of the light and sons of the day; we do not belong to the night or to the darkness. You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
Thank You, Lord, for setting me free.
 
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Matthew 23:37​

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Looks like they had a choice to me :)
 
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Matthew 23:37​

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Looks like they had a choice to me :)
The natural man is unable to obey God. Scripture says so. Yep. That is the choice they make. Disobedience.

The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor is it able to do so.

What do you think of this?


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Romans 11 v 32 God has consigned everyone to disobedience so that He may have mercy on all.
:)
 

Matthew 23:37​

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Looks like they had a choice to me :)

That Jerusalem represents the Jewish religious structure, not individuals. It is saying that salvation can never/will never be
found within it because it would not accept Christ as Savior. It is now solely by the true spiritual church.
 
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