What is the different between original sin and daily sin.
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This is opposite of scripture. One is not saved until the end when the accounting is done. If sin never stopped there is no salvation.
This response is entirely couched in Calvin's doctrine of predestination whereby God is the only agent, and He saved any person from before the world was made. Another one of the false teachings of Calvinism and wholly unscriptural.
So, all predestinarians say. However, there is nothing in the text that states that individuals are predestined to salvation.
The preface of those who are the elect, are those that love God. What was predestined is that those who love God, thes elect, will be transformed into His Likeness, made Holy and blameless.
As to the sequence it is simply pointing out the means by which God works with humans beings. All human beings and it is the free response of any human being in the affirmative that God and the Holy Spirit work together.
Once again you are being led by a false teacher, Calvin.
God is faithful and will do what He promises. However, man can be unfaithful and can quench the Holy Spirit and leave the fold.
Stay on topic. . .
The topic is not predestination, it's salvation completed.
In Ro 8:28-30, it's all past tense, completed, no waiting until the end comes.
You really could use a new playbook.
It is all waiting until the end.
The context of the chapter from vs28-39 is about God's faithfulness to those that believe. Paul is writing to the Roman Christians (late 50's) at the time of great persecution in Rome by Nero. Because of the severe persecution they were questioning God's faithfulness to them.
Paul then writes this chain to show that God has not forgotten them. God had a plan for them. Those that love Him would be changed, transformed into His Likeness. God calls all men but only a few respond. Those that do respond are justified, and those justified are glorified, If one is faithful one experiences each of these events. Paul is not making a theological statement here. He does not include that any believer who leaves the fold will never experience all of these events.
It is simply God's promise not to leave them. God will not abandon His plan for creating man, nor His plan for those that see and believe, that love Him.
One's personal salvation is never a (past tense), it is always future, and then only if one endures to the end.
Your proof text playbook falters again.
I guess Paul didn't get the memo, because he uses only past tense in Ro 8:28-30.
And I'll be taking him as the authority on the matter.
Of course it is past tense. As soon as one becomes a believer all of these events are past. But they are not consummated until one has died. Your salvation is never past tense. The means by which God uses is always past tense. How could you get to the end unless these events occurred in a believers life. That one is called does not occur at the end but the beginning, thus when one responds it is past tense, justified, but that does not guarantee the end result. One's faithfulness and endurance confirms the positive end result.
Only hope that you would take him as he states, here and elsewhere.
I guess Paul didn't get the memo, because he uses only past tense in Ro 8:28-30.
It's all a done deal.
And I'll be taking him as the authority on the matter.
Romans 4: 15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. Have you ever wondered why God didn't just punish Adam and Eve for disobeying. The reason is because of what they disobeyed. They ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. If they had not eaten from that tree but disobeyed another way, we would not have that knowledge and would not be under the law. That knowledge of good and evil is our conscience which is a law to do good and avoid evil. We all fail because from birth, our motivation for living is love of self. Even Jesus was born under the Law. Galatians 4: 4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth His Son, made of a woman, made under the Law. Learning right from wrong was Adam and Eve's original sin and we are all born with that sin. If you want more info, let me know.
There is no original sin but Adam and Eve.
There is no original sin with anybody else.
The Bible says the son will not bear the iniquities of the father.
And the father will not bear the iniquities of the son.
But everyone will bear their own sin.
No one is blamed and not guilty for the sin of Adam and Eve.
Adam and Eve were made in the image of God an innocent nature in flesh.
They were born knowing God.
When they sinned then they had a choice between good and evil.
So all their offspring are born with a choice so they are born not knowing God.
So they will sin before they repent and accept God so all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
The Bible says that their angels always behold the face of the Father for the little ones.
Which we are born innocent with no sin on our record until we understand right from wrong and sin.
The curse of Adam and Eve does come upon us but we are not blamed for their sin but they gave us a choice so we are born not knowing God so we will sin before we come to Him.
Original sin only apply to Adam and Eve as far as the act of that sin but the curse comes upon us for we will all sin before coming to God.
Adam and Eve were made in the image of God an innocent nature in flesh.
The only reality they could know is what God told them with no other alternative.
They could not disobey any other way and would not eat of that tree on their own.
It would of never entered their mind to eat of that tree unless an outside source tempted them with an alternate reality.
God gave them a choice so He allowed Satan to tempt Eve which she said they could not eat of the tree for that is all she could know and think.
So Satan tempted her with an alternate reality that if they ate of the tree they would have an elevated position so Eve ate and sinned.
Then Eve was the outside source that tempted Adam and he sinned.
Colossians 1: 15-16 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers---all things were created by him, and for him;
If God the Father is invisible, how is the God the Son His image? You have to have a better understanding of the Father.
Matthew 11: 27 All things are delivered unto me of (by) my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.
What are the qualities of the Father and what can He do? He has always existed, He is everywhere at once, He can create out of nothing, He transcends time, knows our past, present, and future, He has a mind, heart, and will, He knows what everyone is thinking and feeling, He is all knowing and all powerful. How can a being have all those qualities and power? The only way is if our reality is in the mind of the Father. A God that has always existed must have created an unfathomable number of realities, and ours is just one of them. He interacts in our reality through His Holy Spirit, which in Isaiah 63: 9-10 is referred to as the "angel of his presence". In other words, where the Holy Spirit is, the Father (invisible God) is.
In a vacuum with nothing in it and nothing happening, time does not exist. Time in our reality began when the Father, in His mind, created a being in it and called him His Son. That is how the Son is the firstborn of every creature. The Son has his own mind, heart, and will. The Father fills His Son's being with His Holy Spirit, and the Father's presence resides in the Son. The Son loves the Father and shows His love through obedience. The Father loves the Son and shows His love by creating the rest of creation through His Son (whose being He inhabits) and for His Son. The Father puts all things under His Son's feet except Himself. 1 Corinthians 15:27 For He hath put all things under his feet. But when He saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that He is excepted, which put all things under him. The Son is father, lord and god of all creation, but the Father is Lord and God of all realities, including ours.
The reason the Son is the image of the invisible God is because the Son is indwelled with the Holy Spirit (the Father's presence).
Adam and Eve were not the first two humans. They were the first two humans that were in the image of God because they were filled with the Holy Spirit, just like the Son, and were able to communicate with God. Cain did not marry his sister.
I agree that this is a very confusing term used by people who want to simplify something that should not be simplified.
When you were saved and washed of your sins it was like being washed. You were dirty, it could have been filthy, it could have been poop from a pig sty or blood or any thing that is filthy. You were given clean clothes as well. But just because my Mom washed me when I was a baby doesn't mean I don't need to be washed daily. We wash our hands, we wash our face, we take a shower, we wash our clothes. Simply living and working will cause us to get dirty. When we spend time each day in the word of God we are being washed with the water in the word. It could be a thought, it could be something you saw, something you heard. Maybe at work someone told a joke that you heard and it bothered your spirit.
Before being saved you lived in sin and participated in it. After being saved you still live in the world and are "contaminated" daily by the world. If you don't wash that off it can make you sick.
To be saved means you genuinely repent of sins. Jesus blood is not a "get out of jail free card" that allows Christians to sin with impunity because "they are forgiven". That attitude is proof that the repentance was not genuine. So don't think that if prior to getting saved you were a fornicator and the Lord's blood cleansed you from that sin that "daily sin" refers to continuing to live in fornication. Genuine repentance means you have rejected the old life of sin and have chosen to follow Jesus and for your flesh to be crucified with Christ.
For example, a Mafia boss doesn't get to "repent of his sins" be cleansed but continue being a mafia boss ordering different people to be killed, etc. Repenting of his sins means he stops being a mafia boss regardless of the cost.
An adulterer who repents stops being an adulterer. Likewise with a thief, and a murderer, and an idolater.