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Fortunate you could earn income while staying at home! Was this a govt benefit, or some kind of WFH job, or a cottage industry/business? Just curious.
Agree breadwinner AND stay-at-home can be exhausting.

I did appreciate parent-helpers in the school library, but only rich parents could do this, in the poorer schools, they couldn't afford to do this or spare the time.

I was an investor beginning from age 12 and have managed to make enough to live off of. That can be a pretty stressful job given the behavior of the markets, especially modern markets that seem more like a gambling house than an investment house.
 
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I was an investor beginning from age 12 and have managed to make enough to live off of. That can be a pretty stressful job given the behavior of the markets, especially modern markets that seem more like a gambling house than an investment house.
Oh wow
I only knew about simple interest back then in the bank, and wouldn't have been old enough to play the markets/buy shares at 12. Or know about compound interest.

We have kiwisaver now but that can't be accessed until age 65 which is a loooong way off for me. In NZ, people just buy houses and try to rent them out to pay their own mortgage. It's become like a ponzi scheme.
 
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Just wondering out loud...anyone here an angel investor? Or maybe angel investors just don't tell anyone about their investments.

I mean, the whole thing with insider trading is not to tell anyone your trade secrets.

So when a tradwife (not a tradewife) talks about her secret recipes and how to make this or that, I just wonder if she has any motive for sharing all her secrets....because it can be like wives compete with each other who can be the 'best wife' who can do everything so that others may boast.

I mean it's just like the husbands in the workforce compete against each other to see who can earn the most money, have the biggest house, and the biggest family right?
 
Oh wow
I only knew about simple interest back then in the bank, and wouldn't have been old enough to play the markets/buy shares at 12. Or know about compound interest.

We have kiwisaver now but that can't be accessed until age 65 which is a loooong way off for me. In NZ, people just buy houses and try to rent them out to pay their own mortgage. It's become like a ponzi scheme.

I knew about compound interest long before age 12. I had a good teacher in my mom. I bought $500 worth of shares in a mutual fund at age 12 and the benefit I got from that wasn't profits but it got me watching the financial markets and learning.
 
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I knew about compound interest long before age 12. I had a good teacher in my mom. I bought $500 worth of shares in a mutual fund at age 12 and the benefit I got from that wasn't profits but it got me watching the financial markets and learning.
I didn't have $500 at age 12.

I probably only had at most $100. Mum just told me to save it. Piggy bank. Even when we were given lucky money for Chinese New Year. I remember thinking if I pooled all my $2 coins together maybe I could buy something to eat or my own books or things like that.

I learned all about bankrupcy and mortgages from Monopoly. I hated playing Monopoly. You can only play it so many times, maybe for hours, until you lose all your money or take everyone elses.
 
Dad taught me that when you buy lotto tickets, you hardly ever win lol.
 
When I was 7, the sharemarket crashed and suddenly everyone was poor who tried to play it/invest in it. Those who invested in 'blue chip' also got taken for a ride, often by brokers investing on their behalf.

Yea 1987 was memorable for that. Thats why in NZ everyone invests in houses. Thinking they are safe, but they don't reckon with earthquakes, floods, and the rain. Leaky homes anyone?
 
I did have savings account that we had in school plus piggybank (or rather, elephant called Kashin) but wouldn't have had $500 at age 12. I think I had about $1000 by the time I was 17 from my pocket money savings and work and I thought that was a lot, plus it was earning some interest at the time if I didn't spend it (had cheques back then, no bank cards)

I knew how to balance a cheque book and got first credit card when the bank decided it could make money off my money. lol
 
I think most kids would have been living hand to mouth where I was...nobody I knew was rich or well off.

We all had to go out and get jobs, though parents if they had the money would send us to university hoping we'd get better ones. lol
 
One of our Prime Ministers never worked in NZ he made his money on Wall Street investment banking, and just because he was wealthy and knew how to make money by not working people thought he would make a good PM lol.

He grew up in a state house - his mother was a widow, but when he got to be PM he did away with State houses for those who had low income to actually have a place to live.
 
Life always has it's ironies and hypocrisies like this, I think Jesus empathised with the poor though. There are so many passages in the NT gospel about how wide that gap is between how the rich live and think and how the poor struggle to be able to afford living.
 
Um Ok didn't know it was REALLY a competition. I was only kind of joking about that....
 
So were my mother and grandmother. Mother raised three boys and one girl to adulthood. The youngest girl was killed by car accident at 16. We also had a grandmother and an uncle living with us while we were growing up. No old folks home. Mother took care of them all, fed them etc. Mother lived to see great-grandchildren.

How many of your female ancestors were stay-at-homes, and you do not provide alternatives. I know a lot of females go to college and get jobs and may marry in their 30s if they marry at all and have at most two children. A woman with a husband and 7 kids by 30 will have far more impact on culture than her college-educated counterpart in the long run. Daughters with plenty of brothers and a father are better protected.
My mom, both grandmothers, and out of over 40 aunts and uncles, many were SAHW. I also have doctors, lawyers, writers, electricians, plumbers, bus driver and nurses in my female lineage.The alternatives, since you claim i didn't mention any (I didn't know it was my responsibility to point young mothers on their journeys), are: SIngle Motherhood, Being a working mother, being in a lesbian relationship and either working or staying home, choosing a responsible man with whom to lie down and have children and coparenting....the alternatives are endless, although not all are Godly, so I am not certain why the comment about not offering any alternatives came in. Maybe that's a language barrier thing.
 
My mom, both grandmothers, and out of over 40 aunts and uncles, many were SAHW. I also have doctors, lawyers, writers, electricians, plumbers, bus driver and nurses in my female lineage.The alternatives, since you claim i didn't mention any (I didn't know it was my responsibility to point young mothers on their journeys), are: SIngle Motherhood, Being a working mother, being in a lesbian relationship and either working or staying home, choosing a responsible man with whom to lie down and have children and coparenting....the alternatives are endless, although not all are Godly, so I am not certain why the comment about not offering any alternatives came in. Maybe that's a language barrier thing.
I can only go back to my grandmothers for lineage I think whoever came before them I have no idea. Family trees only show sons in my cultural tradition, daughters don't count.

In China in the olden days rich men had several wives/ concubines. Poor ones could only afford one. Poor people have lots of children who in turn work and give money to the family. Rich people it's the other way round.

Poor people also do not own their own homes, have to pay rent, and thus, have to work to earn money just to have a place to live. So when people say 'stay at home wife' they kind of assume the wife has her own house. Well for poor people they do not own their own homes. Even if they marry, in most cases they couldn't afford one.

I thought that was obvious!
 
My mom, both grandmothers, and out of over 40 aunts and uncles, many were SAHW. I also have doctors, lawyers, writers, electricians, plumbers, bus driver and nurses in my female lineage.The alternatives, since you claim i didn't mention any (I didn't know it was my responsibility to point young mothers on their journeys), are: SIngle Motherhood, Being a working mother, being in a lesbian relationship and either working or staying home, choosing a responsible man with whom to lie down and have children and coparenting....the alternatives are endless, although not all are Godly, so I am not certain why the comment about not offering any alternatives came in. Maybe that's a language barrier thing.
You wrote that you do not recommend staying at home after 30 years of doing that. Which is what triggered my response. If it is not your responsibility then why are you not recommending? Which might sway a young female to attend college and forgo marriage and children. The usual trajectory on that model being tied up in education and career until thirty something and then getting serious about marriage and children. At that point they are competing with 20-something females for the alphas. So there are negatives not mentioned here that come with college and career. When picking mates men generally do not care about education and careers as much as women may. They have different agendas and that includes females who will stay married for the long run and raising children as a family unit, Not older educated females who are more likely to view it all thru the lens of "Woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle' model. They do not trust them because they know they are taught all the prejudices of 20th-century Gloria Steinem feminism in college. The recent divide between men and women generally is displayed in the Lindsay Clancy case, where she murders her three children, and females argue for leniency while males lean towards imprisonment. These are general trends.
 
You wrote that you do not recommend staying at home after 30 years of doing that. Which is what triggered my response. If it is not your responsibility then why are you not recommending? Which might sway a young female to attend college and forgo marriage and children. The usual trajectory on that model being tied up in education and career until thirty something and then getting serious about marriage and children. At that point they are competing with 20-something females for the alphas. So there are negatives not mentioned here that come with college and career. When picking mates men generally do not care about education and careers as much as women may. They have different agendas and that includes females who will stay married for the long run and raising children as a family unit, Not older educated females who are more likely to view it all thru the lens of "Woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle' model. They do not trust them because they know they are taught all the prejudices of 20th-century Gloria Steinem feminism in college. The recent divide between men and women generally is displayed in the Lindsay Clancy case, where she murders her three children, and females argue for leniency while males lean towards imprisonment. These are general trends.
ooooh well the reason I wouldn't recommend it, is because God is the only being we can completely count on to never hurt us, and to always protect us. Knowing people will disappoint us is the whole basis of realizing we need God in the first place, in fact...but knowing that people will disappoint us and let us down, tells us that we need to learn to take care of ourselves and not rely on other flawed humans. For many it works great for the fist so many years, then things/life happens, divorce or god forbid worse (I am a widow) happens, and you're alone. Now what? You're 45,, and you're suddenly alone...what will you do? You go on interviews, they see your college degree, and ask, " So what have you been doing for the past 20 years?"You'll survive, of course, by working minimum wage, or living off child support and alimony payments, and still relying on the person who put you into this position in the first place. IF you truly want to stay home, raise babies, keep house, cook, can, garden, raise animals and live like Laura Ingalls, great. do it, just have a back up plan to your back up plan. DOn't go into it thinking ooooh I love him so much, and not protect yourself along the way.

Are there great men out there looking for great women who want to be a SAHM/Tradwife/DomestGoddess/whatever today's word is? Yes. A good man will WANT and INSIST that his wife is FULLY protected. That means she is SPiritually, FINANCIALLY/Physically and emotionally protected whether he is around or not. If he is against this, whether you decide to stay home or not, then keep looking.
 
Poor people also do not own their own homes,
I get that. But you don't need to own a home to be a Tradwife. We rented while saving for a home. I'm not certain how it is in China, but here, there are also many options to own a home or land. My brother saved and bought land, then built a small home, then got married. He then lived mortgage/rent free, using his money to grow the land. We purchased our first home on a land contract, directly with the seller, and we paid it off asap, by sacrificing other things like vacations, cell phones, cable tv, internet, streaming services and other extras, then throwing all our extra cash towards the loan (like a gazelle as it says in the Bible) The Bible will teach people how to do anything, even repaying a loan.
Home ownership isn't a requirement to being a tradwife. It helps but isn't required. Home ownership helps a lot of things, but the later it complicates things. I am selling my house, and I do not intend to buy another home for a long while, if ever again.
 
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Insurance, security, protect I think is what wives want or need in case their husband dies, and their name on the title of the house/land so that they can't be turfed out.

I agree that the idyllic 'SAHW' or rather the 'SAHM' only works for a limited time before the children are old enough to go to school or leave home, and then its a matter of what you do with the big ole empty nest if you are fortunate enough to own your own home.
 
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