What if repentance is not about feeling guilty, regretful or ashamed? How do you define repentance?
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My Teacher is way better than yous. Mine is infallible and yours is not:
1 John 2:27 - the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you
John 16:13 - Howbeit when He, the Spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth: for He shall not speak of Himself; but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak: and He will shew you things to come.
There is the trap!
1 John 2:27 -
the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you
That anointing will teach us what to think about what God's gifted teachers have taught us.
And also!
If we are to take that verse the way you assume it to mean?
Why did you need to be told that is the way?
The anointing should have told you that without being told.
Some people are naturally psychic.
They fall for that one as their Christian walk gets hijacked by spirits who will play the game with them.
I have had dreams come true. It's mind-boggling to have it happen.
I have had intuitive moments where I sketched a face, and that person walked through the door moments later.
But that never could that anointing teach me what the intended meaning of Scripture is until I found teachers skilled in understanding the Greek and Hebrew texts . . . And, only because they have an anointing to do so from God.
That anointing you think you have has people opening shops for fortune-telling.
John 16:13, was for Jesus' disciples - the future apostles - to hear as preparation for what was to come uniquely for them.
But in our case?
Now that the apostles have long ago completed their job?
And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastor-teachers,
for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ
Ephesians 4:11-12
Throw them out if you have the anointing as you think it?
Yeah, the devil and his demons always try to discourage people from having their own direct personal relationship with the Lord and being led by the Holy Spirit in to all Truth as Jesus promised in John 16:13
I see so the Lord is incapable of teaching the regular people directly?
In these end times when many have come in Jesus' Name and are deceiving many along with all the other warnings in scripture concerning false teaching, I'll continue putting the Lord first place in my life.
Matthew 23:7-12
And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
I'm certainly not going to put men before the Lord as some are apparently doing.
You are reading something in to 1 John 2:27 that it does not say.
Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God proves true; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words, lest He rebuke you and you be found a liar.
Falsely claiming the Holy Spirit is actually a demon will get you in to trouble.
Following men instead of the Lord is idolatry which will also get you in to trouble.
I do have my own direct personal relationship with the Father through Christ.
And, I see your mistake.
I was given a dream ten years before I found out what it was about.
I searched for ten years trying to find what it showed me.
Could not find it.
Then my sister opened her house for a bible study, and she invited me.
Running the study was a group of Bible college students.
One of the students invited me to go see the school.
You just think you do. Your claim that we all must be taught by other people is leading in to your gaslighting me to make the false claim I'm somehow required to bow down to you as my teacher and follow you or to follow some man as my teacher.
No dice, I'll follow the Lord Jesus and not engage in idolatry
Yeah I had a few dreams over the years and the Lord showed me what they meant because He wouldn't be giving me a dream and then refuse to give me the meaning. I believed and acted in His promises!
Mark 11:24 - What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them
James 1:5 - If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him
Obviously the Lord Jesus teaching me through the Holy Spirit based on His Word is far better than whatever man you are following.
Why are you telling me that?
If I have no need for a man to teach me?
Precisely why we are told/warned....
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether
they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1
Demons do a great job on Christians who are easily flattered by themselves.
Hypocrite! Why are you, being a man, here teaching anybody then?
We should listen to you - some man?
But you not needing the same?
You should be being led by the Holy Spirit to know what God's Word says.
You are not being led by the Spirit and instead seek a man to teach you as you stated previously
And some of the men you follow are influenced by these demons being false prophets and all.
You're just upset because I'm not bowing down to you so you can be my teacher.
Get over yourself.
You are not my teacher.
You gaslight with blatant hypocrisy.
Yet, I am testing your spirit.
No one is to bow down to good teaching.
Good teaching builds one up.
But we are to demolish wrong teaching.
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God,
and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. 2 Corinthians 10:5
See you later on the psychic hotline commercials.
You are the one claiming we should all be following some man as being our teacher.
Now you are upset because your attempt at gaslighting me has failed to get me to bow down to you.
Like a roaring lion seeking gullible ones you can devour no doubt.
I'm a Christian so I don't partake in the curious arts, but you do you.
You are the one claiming we should all be following some man as being our teacher.
Someone taught you to follow men instead of following the Lord so it's those guys that have taught you false doctrine.
That false doctrine is to follow them over and above the Lord which is the sin of idolatry
Well... Scooter?
At least you have gone on record for what you believe.
For that.
I thank you.
Have a wonderful day.
ScooterJackson, Genez
IMHO, chasing "truth" is easy. The only truth is Jesus our Christ.
The scriptures provide insights into elements of truth and more importantly clarity on how to use the Truth of Jesus the Christ to experience life change, priority change, heart change and mission change. Relying on proof texts "truths" is, I think, a misunderstanding of what we are called from and for.
It is not to use our personal insights from reading and hearing scripture to argue the priority of our personal insights as a means of subjugating and disparaging the insights of others. IMHO, the New Testament was not intended to make Christian "soldiers" but Christian servants.
Unfortunately, over the centuries we have branded our insights into thousands of brands. Everybody is all excited to promote and defend their brand of truth. Jesus has no "brand." Jesus has a calling to all humans, immititate My life, love like Me, heal like Me, sacrifice like Me by taking up your own personal cross daily. Jesus did not say crossbow, He said cross.
Unfortunately, we live in a world were we would rather battle someone's insights than to experience conversion where the true war is against our own failures, sins and resistance to total surrender to Jesus. We find it far more inspirational to spend our lives digging out the mote in our Christian neighbor's eye than to find the beams in our own eyes that block our complete surrender and conversion. If you want to determine the validity of someone's conversion, Jesus gave us the analytical tool. "By this will all men know you are my (true) disciple, if you love one another.
If we remain unconverted, living lives indistinguishable from the "heathens" but are compelled to endlessly argue points of theology, of what value is even our most eloquent theologies? The wise old Baptist preacher once observed ironically, "some people are so heavenly minded, they are no earthly good. Jesus did come to recruit theologians, He came to find loving servants who are focused on bringing the love of God to the world. IMHO, for generations we have come to believe that our "job" is to bring God's Word to the world without the corresponding love that validates anything we say.
"As a man thinketh in his heart so is he" Proverbs 23:7. I thought one way before salvation but another way after being saved and learning scriptures and that new way of thinking changed my behaviors.
When someone's "insights" are not what the Lord teaches in His Word it's not unfortunate to depart from said "insights"
In the end it's only the Lord's point of view that matters.
If a person truly repents and changes their mind which is changing their understanding from being carnally which is death (separation from God) minded to being spiritually minded (which is life and peace, Romans 8:6) then their behavior will change as a result.
But, the tares among us advocate for being able to be carnal minded, living in sinful behavior and they falsely claim they are still in right standing with the Lord when they do so.
1 John 3:8 - He that committeth sin is of the devil
1 John 3:7 - Little children, let no man deceive you: he that DOES righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
James 1:22 - Be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves
John 12:46 - I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
It's always sad to see people claiming that they are Christians as they actively advocate for sinful behavior, claiming that does not disqualify them from being accepted by the Lord.
2 Timothy 2:12
if we endure, we will also reign with Him. if we deny Him, He also will deny us
That happened because you actually followed the leading of the Holy Spirit.
There are many claiming to be believers who refuse to simply do what you did - be led by the Holy Spirit
ScooterJackson:
Well, it seems you are not to happy with "insights" so let's switch it to "dogmas" which I define as encapsulated and ossified filters that only allow dogma compliant data to get in. So, lets take a trip down dogma lane as see where you fall on the spectrum.
Did God choose all who would be saved before He created the world? An if that is key to your dogma, does that mean nobody can be saved who was not predestined and does that mean a person preordained to be save has no possible chance of being saved? Will the predestined to be saved live different lives from the unsaved?
Jesus said "He that believes and is baptised will be saved......if they endure to the end" So, is baptism essential? Jesus never says you are saved by faith alone, but to Paul it is central to his theology.
What does your dogma say about a 6,000-10,000 yr old earth?
If a man divorces his wife who has not committed adultery, and remarries, does that mean is a perpetual adulterer?
If you say you love God but have a hate list are you a liar?
If you fail the judgement test of Matthew 25 are you going to hell no matter what you claim to believe?
If you criticize someone who claims that the Holy Spirit works in and through them are you blaspheming the Holy Spirit?
Are your dogmas more Calvinist or Armenian?
Are you a John Nelson Darby dispensational premillennialist?
Is today's speaking in tongues a legitimate expression of Christianity?
Is abortion murder?
Can God save the billions of humans who have never heard of the Christian God?
Is hell eternal torture, temporary torture or annihilation?
Is how you live unimportant to God just so long as you claim to "believe?"
Is instant salvation a guarantee?
If you hear a 60 second pulpit prayer and it sounds believable so you claim you do? The moment you come to faith are you instantly and permanently saved?
Is having the "right" politics a requirement for Christians?
Are "Christians" from all denominations going to be saved?
What role does obedience to Jesus commands play in salvation, as your comments suggest that Christians advocating sinful behavior are not "saved."
It is possible to claim Jesus with our mouths and best intentions of the moment, but retain total control over day to day lives?
Is it virtually impossible for a rich man to go to heaven?
Who put evil into the Garden of Eden?
Are (were) angels sexually active? (are all angels males?)
Did God stop the earth from rotating to help Joshua win a battle?
What exactly did God say at the baptism of Jesus?
I'm very happy with "insights" as long as the are the "insights" of the Lord Jesus
I don't have my own dogma, instead I have access to the Mind of Christ - 1 Corinthians 2:16
Some people need to learn to die to self and abide in Christ and see things from His perspective