Replacement theology? Yes or No.

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Genez said:
Actually...

The Holy Spirit is not a bridge between us and God.
For the Holy Spirit is God.

That bridge you speak of?
That is our human spirit, which the Holy Spirit begat in us when we believed and became regenerate.

Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. John 3:6​

Our human spirit is not the Holy Spirit.

For the Holy Spirit teaches and guides our human spirit.

When all goes well?

The Holy Spirit brings to remembrance everything Jesus (God's Word) has taught us.
Ensuring that we can recall important teachings when needed. John 14:26
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That only works while we're on the earth living in a human body. We won't need that once we are totally consummated with God/Jesus/Holy Spirit in our new heavenly bodies in Heaven. So, if you really read all of the verses, the Holy Spirit is just one aspect of God/Jesus because they are one. While we are on the earth, they are serving different purposes until we are made perfect so that we can even stand in His presence as the WHOLE in Heaven.
  • John 10:30 — “I and my Father are one.”
  • John 10:38 — “the Father is in me, and I in him.”
  • John 14:10 — “I am in the Father, and the Father in me.”
  • John 14:11 — “I am in the Father, and the Father in me.”
  • John 14:16–17 — “he may abide with you for ever” / “he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.”
  • John 14:18 — “I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.”
  • John 14:20 — “I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.”
  • John 14:23 — “my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.”
  • John 15:4 — “Abide in me, and I in you.”
  • John 15:5 — “He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit.”
  • John 17:11 — “Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.”
  • John 17:20–21 — “that they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us.”
  • John 17:22 — “that they may be one, even as we are one.”
  • John 17:23 — “I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one.”
  • John 17:24 — “that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am.”
  • John 17:26 — “that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.”
  • Romans 8:9 — “the Spirit of God dwell in you” / “the Spirit of Christ.”
  • Romans 8:10 — “if Christ be in you.”
  • 1 Corinthians 6:17 — “he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.”
  • 1 Corinthians 12:12–13 — “so also is Christ” / “by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body.”
  • 2 Corinthians 5:17 — “if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature.”
  • Galatians 2:20 — “Christ liveth in me.”
  • Ephesians 2:18 — “through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.”
  • Colossians 1:27 — “Christ in you, the hope of glory.”
  • Colossians 3:3 — “your life is hid with Christ in God.”
  • 1 John 2:24 — “ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.”
  • 1 John 3:24 — “he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him.”
  • 1 John 4:12 — “God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.”
  • 1 John 4:13 — “Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.”
  • 1 John 4:15 — “God dwelleth in him, and he in God.”
  • 1 John 4:16 — “He that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.”
  • Revelation 21:3 — “the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them... and God himself shall be with them.”
  • Revelation 21:22 — “the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.”
  • Revelation 22:3–4 — “the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it” / “they shall see his face.”
And last, but not least:
  • 1 Corinthians 15:28 — “that God may be all in all.”
  • Ephesians 4:4–6 — “There is one body, and one Spirit... One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.”
You won't need to separate them one from another when Jesus returns with a new name that only He knows and that He writes on us in:

Revelation 3:12 - Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my NEW name.

Revelation 19:12 - His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

Isaiah 62:2 - And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a NEW name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.
 
15 "Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of
Judah." - Jeremiah 31:31 Berean Standard Bible"

"Again the word of the LORD came to me, saying,
16 And you, son of man, take a single stick and write on it: ‘Belonging to Judah and to the Israelites associated with him.’ Then take another stick and write on it: ‘Belonging to Joseph—the stick of Ephraim—and to all the house of Israel associated with him.’
17 Then join them together into one stick, so that they become one in your hand.
18 When your people ask you, ‘Won’t you explain to us what you mean by these?’
19 you are to tell them that this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel associated with him, and I will put them together with the stick of Judah. I will make them into a single stick, and they will become one in My hand.’
20 When the sticks on which you write are in your hand and in full view of the people,
21 you are to tell them that this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘I will take the Israelites out of the nations to which they have gone, and I will gather them from all around and bring them into their own land.
22 I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel, and one king will rule over all of them. Then they will no longer be two nations and will never again be divided into two kingdoms.
23 They will no longer defile themselves with their idols or detestable images, or with any of their transgressions. I will save them from all their apostasies by which they sinned, and I will cleanse them. Then they will be My people, and I will be their God.
24 My servant David will be king over them, and there will be one shepherd for all of them. They will follow My ordinances and keep and observe My statutes.
25 They will live in the land that I gave to My servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They will live there forever with their children and grandchildren, and My servant David will be their prince forever.
26 And I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant. I will establish them and multiply them, and I will set My sanctuary among them forever.
27 My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be My people.
28 Then the nations will know that I the LORD sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary is among them forever.’” - Ezekiel 37:15-28 BSB

Since both of these unconditional promises of God have not yet been fulfilled, I say that yes, God has a future for both the house of Judah and the house of Israel.
Therefore, God has not and will not replace Israel with the church. The church, a valid part of the commonwealth of Israel will one day be a seen by all as such. In Yeshua the Messiah! The Lord of Lords and the King of Kings!
 
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cv5 said:
Would you care to chime in and properly identify this entity? And define his demise how and when? You failed to answer in the last post, so now is your big chance to convince us of the impeccability of your eschatology.

Are we to believe it when the historicists, amils and CT's postulate that this is the usual cast of straw men like Antiochus Epiphanies or Nero?

@Aaron56 @HeIsHere @Beekeeper ?
We really would like to know.

[2Th 2:8-10 KJV]
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
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At the cross Satan was bound. Jesus sets down at the right hand of the Father, and all authority is given to Him. Later He shows up with a couple of new keys on His key chain...to death and hell. Death now has lost its sting and the church is growing unabated by the forces of hell. Not only so, but the forces of evil are unwittingly aiding in God's plan to fill the earth with the knowledge of His glory.

Satan 0................Jesus infinity

You are locked into poor eschatological dogma. You have so much invested in it at this point that you will probably never see the truth.
 
Pilgrimshope said:
Yes the point is …..Abram is Hebrew not gentile 😂

gentile is a term for non Jewish faith and lineage Jews came from Abraham’s lineage ……
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Israel = the covenant people; the nations (Gentiles) = those not in the covenant.
I was agreeing with you.
 
cv5 said:
Your statement—


—is linguistically backwards.

“Nations” (gôyim) existed from the beginning. Israel was subsequently separated from among those nations as God's covenant nation.
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To keep his newly gathered chosen people (the Jews) separated from the then-degenerated peoples of the world?
God needed to promote a way of thinking in the Jewish mind to cause Jews to think with disdain towards gentiles.

That is why God gave the Jews the Law as He had given it.
It was to be obeyed out of necessity to keep the Jews separated as a people from lawless gentiles. Galatians 3:19

Making the Jews separated to preserve and protect the seed of the line of the Messiah until the right time.

For God had the birth of Jesus Christ awaiting for just the right time.

You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly." Romans 5:6​
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In Christ ..... grace and peace!
 
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Cameron143 said:
At the cross Satan was bound. Jesus sets down at the right hand of the Father, and all authority is given to Him. Later He shows up with a couple of new keys on His key chain...to death and hell. Death now has lost its sting and the church is growing unabated by the forces of hell. Not only so, but the forces of evil are unwittingly aiding in God's plan to fill the earth with the knowledge of His glory.

Satan 0................Jesus infinity

You are locked into poor eschatological dogma. You have so much invested in it at this point that you will probably never see the truth.
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Revelation 20:

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
 
Revelation1v8 said:
Revelation 20:

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
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Again, this began definitively at the cross, has been happening progressively since, and will culminate when Christ returns.
 
Cameron143 said:
Again, this began definitively at the cross, has been happening progressively since, and will culminate when Christ returns.
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You better read those verses again because they say that Satan is bound so that he can not DECEIVE THE NATIONS during that 1,000 years. Satan is definitely deceiving the nations today. So, no, it didn't start at the cross almost 2,000 years ago.
 
Jerusalem_Road said:
15 "Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of
Judah." - Jeremiah 31:31 Berean Standard Bible"

"Again the word of the LORD came to me, saying,
16 And you, son of man, take a single stick and write on it: ‘Belonging to Judah and to the Israelites associated with him.’ Then take another stick and write on it: ‘Belonging to Joseph—the stick of Ephraim—and to all the house of Israel associated with him.’
17 Then join them together into one stick, so that they become one in your hand.
18 When your people ask you, ‘Won’t you explain to us what you mean by these?’
19 you are to tell them that this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel associated with him, and I will put them together with the stick of Judah. I will make them into a single stick, and they will become one in My hand.’
20 When the sticks on which you write are in your hand and in full view of the people,
21 you are to tell them that this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘I will take the Israelites out of the nations to which they have gone, and I will gather them from all around and bring them into their own land.
22 I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel, and one king will rule over all of them. Then they will no longer be two nations and will never again be divided into two kingdoms.
23 They will no longer defile themselves with their idols or detestable images, or with any of their transgressions. I will save them from all their apostasies by which they sinned, and I will cleanse them. Then they will be My people, and I will be their God.
24 My servant David will be king over them, and there will be one shepherd for all of them. They will follow My ordinances and keep and observe My statutes.
25 They will live in the land that I gave to My servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They will live there forever with their children and grandchildren, and My servant David will be their prince forever.
26 And I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant. I will establish them and multiply them, and I will set My sanctuary among them forever.
27 My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be My people.
28 Then the nations will know that I the LORD sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary is among them forever.’” - Ezekiel 37:15-28 BSB

Since both of these unconditional promises of God have not yet been fulfilled, I say that yes, God has a future for both the house of Judah and the house of Israel.
Therefore, God has not and will not replace Israel with the church. The church, a valid part of the commonwealth of Israel will one day be a seen by all as such. In Yeshua the Messiah! The Lord of Lords and the King of Kings!
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Same astute researchers have pointed out that the verses Jeremiah 33:14-26 were inserted in the Masoretic text and are not found in the ancient Greek Old Testament - Septuagint LXX translated a 1000 years prior to the Masoretic text.
 
Cameron143 said:
Isn't Jesus the bridge to the Father, and we gain access to the bridge by faith?
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Faith in what Yeshua did and allowing Him to lead me is what got me to the Father. It certainly wasn't anything I did. Apart from being desperate, that is.
"For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God," - Ephesians 2:8
 
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Revelation1v8 said:
You better read those verses again because they say that Satan is bound so that he can not DECEIVE THE NATIONS during that 1,000 years. Satan is definitely deceiving the nations today. So, no, it didn't start at the cross almost 2,000 years ago.
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Who is Satan deceiving? Can he deceive anyone who Jesus comes to? What nation has none of God's people? Before, all the nations besides Israel were deceived. Now there are people from every nation, kindred, people, and tongue in the kingdom, with more being added daily. How many of those people was Satan able to deceive? Let me see...hmmmm...none.
 
Jerusalem_Road said:
Faith in what Yeshua did and allowing Him to lead me is what got me to the Father. It certainly wasn't anything I did. Apart from being desperate, that is.
"For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God," - Ephesians 2:8
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Seems like a more erudite way of repeating what I said.
 
Cameron143 said:
At the cross Satan was bound. Jesus sets down at the right hand of the Father, and all authority is given to Him. Later He shows up with a couple of new keys on His key chain...to death and hell. Death now has lost its sting and the church is growing unabated by the forces of hell. Not only so, but the forces of evil are unwittingly aiding in God's plan to fill the earth with the knowledge of His glory.

Satan 0................Jesus infinity

You are locked into poor eschatological dogma. You have so much invested in it at this point that you will probably never see the truth.
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Would you care to chime in and properly identify this entity? And define his demise how and when? You failed to answer in the last post, so now is your big chance to convince us of the impeccability of your eschatology.

Are we to believe it when the historicists, amils and CT's postulate that this is the usual cast of straw men like Antiochus Epiphanies or Nero?

@Aaron56 @HeIsHere @Beekeeper ?
We really would like to know.

[2Th 2:8-10 KJV]
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
 
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cv5 said:
Would you care to chime in and properly identify this entity? And define his demise how and when? You failed to answer in the last post, so now is your big chance to convince us of the impeccability of your eschatology.

Are we to believe it when the historicists, amils and CT's postulate that this is the usual cast of straw men like Antiochus Epiphanies or Nero?

@Aaron56 @HeIsHere @Beekeeper ?
We really would like to know.

[2Th 2:8-10 KJV]
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
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Nero perhaps.
 
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