looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

[Churchgoer]

I can see evidence that the church gathered on Sunday.
I do not necessarily see evidence that Sunday was imposed as a Sabbath in the same sense that the seventh day was under the Mosaic covenant.
In fact, your conclusion seems closer to what the New Testament actually presents.
The apostles do not appear to command a shift from Saturday to Sunday.
Rather, by Paul's day, many believers were already gathering on the first day because of Christ's resurrection and the life of the church. That is different from saying God formally transferred the Sabbath command from the seventh day to the first day.
So perhaps the more precise question is not, "Did Christians gather on Sunday?"
The evidence suggests they often did.
The question is, "Did the New Testament establish a binding Christian Sabbath?"
That is the point I still find difficult to demonstrate from the text itself.

Very good 2nd question:
"Did the New Testament establish a binding Christian Sabbath?"

Nt teaches do not forsake gathering. How often should we gather? Reference to ot.

I personally believe combining ot and nt, 7th is important, once a week corporate Gathering. Which day u pick, all fine.

 

[OMC]

Very good 2nd question:
"Did the New Testament establish a binding Christian Sabbath?"

Nt teaches do not forsake gathering. How often should we gather? Reference to ot.

I personally believe combining ot and nt, 7th is important, once a week corporate Gathering. Which day u pick, all fine.

Sister, Good morning by the way, I have nothing against gathering.
We are command as such.
And we need to anyway as believers to strengthen our walk.
My only issue is the idea that we as NT believers are commanded to observe the OT sabbath as instructed to Israel.
We are not commanded according to scripture.
But there is nothing wrong with gathering and I would as often as I can, which I do everyday on here and in my home.

 

[TMS]

If Sabbath observance remained a binding New Covenant requirement, I would expect the apostles to plainly instruct the churches concerning it, especially during controversies over circumcision and other aspects of the Mosaic Law.
Instead, the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15 does not impose Sabbath-keeping upon the Gentiles, and the epistles never command believers to remember the Sabbath in the way the Old Covenant did.
So my question is not merely, "Where is the command to keep Sunday?" but first, "Where is the New Testament command requiring Christians to keep a Sabbath at all?"
Before debating which day should be observed, it seems necessary to establish from Scripture that such an obligation remains in force for New Covenant believers.

could it be that the Sabbath was so sure and so fixed that a command was not needed.

Act 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
Act 15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

Act 15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
Act 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

I do not see laws to not steal and to not lie, or to not commit adultery... does this mean these were okay to transgress?

zealous jews were putting burdens on these new converts, burdens that were part of the Jewish laws (not Gods law), to bring peace these laws (verse 29) needed to be obeyed around the zealous jews.

Rom 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

1Co 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
1Co 8:13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

many laws were not mentioned in Acts 15 because they there not questionable.

 

[Churchgoer]

Sister, Good morning by the way, I have nothing against gathering.
We are command as such.
And we need to anyway as believers to strengthen our walk.
My only issue is the idea that we as NT believers are commanded to observe the OT sabbath as instructed to Israel.
We are not commanded according to scripture.
But there is nothing wrong with gathering and I would as often as I can, which I do everyday on here and in my home.

Good morning brother.
Oh, now I understand. So the question is: should we observe 1 day for "rest"?

Good question, I personally believe resting is more important than working, but not laziness. One day a week resting will bring blessings.

But is it a command to rest? If we view gathering is rest, then it is a command.

 

[OMC]

Act 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
Act 15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

Act 15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
Act 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

I do not see laws to not steal and to not lie, or to not commit adultery... does this mean these were okay to transgress?

zealous jews were putting burdens on these new converts, burdens that were part of the Jewish laws (not Gods law), to bring peace these laws (verse 29) needed to be obeyed around the zealous jews.

Rom 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

1Co 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
1Co 8:13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

many laws were not mentioned in Acts 15 because they there not questionable.

I think you've identified an important weakness in the way Acts 15 is sometimes used.
The council was not attempting to provide a complete list of Christian moral obligations.
If it were, as you point out, we would have to conclude that lying, stealing, murder, coveting, dishonoring parents, and many other sins were suddenly permissible simply because they were not listed. Obviously that would be absurd.
However, I would still note that the specific issue before the council was whether Gentiles were to be brought under the authority of the Mosaic Law.
Certain believing Pharisees said it was necessary "to command them to keep the law of Moses" (Acts 15:5).
The apostles rejected placing that yoke upon the Gentiles and explicitly stated that they were laying upon them "no greater burden than these necessary things" (Acts 15:28-29).
Where I think we differ is in how we classify the Sabbath.
The commands against lying, adultery, murder, theft, and idolatry are repeatedly reaffirmed throughout the New Testament.
By contrast, I do not see the apostles reissuing a Sabbath command to the churches in the same way.
In fact, I see passages such as Romans 14:5 and Colossians 2:16-17 treating the observance of days differently than matters of moral conduct.
That said, I agree with you that silence alone does not settle the question.
Acts 15 by itself cannot prove that the Sabbath was abolished any more than it proves adultery became acceptable.
The larger question is what the rest of the New Testament does with the Sabbath.
When I examine the epistles, I find explicit reaffirmation of the moral commands, but I do not find an explicit command for New Covenant believers to keep a weekly Sabbath.
That is why I remain unconvinced that Sabbath observance was imposed upon the church in the same way that other moral obligations were.
So I think the real debate is not whether Acts 15 contains an exhaustive list. It clearly does not.
The real debate is whether the New Testament elsewhere reaffirms Sabbath observance as a binding obligation for believers.
I still need to see that demonstrated from the text.

 

[Churchgoer]

I think you've identified an important weakness in the way Acts 15 is sometimes used.
The council was not attempting to provide a complete list of Christian moral obligations.
If it were, as you point out, we would have to conclude that lying, stealing, murder, coveting, dishonoring parents, and many other sins were suddenly permissible simply because they were not listed. Obviously that would be absurd.
However, I would still note that the specific issue before the council was whether Gentiles were to be brought under the authority of the Mosaic Law.
Certain believing Pharisees said it was necessary "to command them to keep the law of Moses" (Acts 15:5).
The apostles rejected placing that yoke upon the Gentiles and explicitly stated that they were laying upon them "no greater burden than these necessary things" (Acts 15:28-29).
Where I think we differ is in how we classify the Sabbath.
The commands against lying, adultery, murder, theft, and idolatry are repeatedly reaffirmed throughout the New Testament.
By contrast, I do not see the apostles reissuing a Sabbath command to the churches in the same way.
In fact, I see passages such as Romans 14:5 and Colossians 2:16-17 treating the observance of days differently than matters of moral conduct.
That said, I agree with you that silence alone does not settle the question.
Acts 15 by itself cannot prove that the Sabbath was abolished any more than it proves adultery became acceptable.
The larger question is what the rest of the New Testament does with the Sabbath.
When I examine the epistles, I find explicit reaffirmation of the moral commands, but I do not find an explicit command for New Covenant believers to keep a weekly Sabbath.
That is why I remain unconvinced that Sabbath observance was imposed upon the church in the same way that other moral obligations were.
So I think the real debate is not whether Acts 15 contains an exhaustive list. It clearly does not.
The real debate is whether the New Testament elsewhere reaffirms Sabbath observance as a binding obligation for believers.
I still need to see that demonstrated from the text.

So we really need to look at ot, what's the purpose of sabbath law?
For labor rest? Or for corporate worship God.
Such as what's the purpose for not commit adultery? To make a family happy? Or to make every family happy? Or else?
Same for all 1 to 10 commandments.

 

[OMC]

So we really need to look at ot, what's the purpose of sabbath law?
For labor rest? Or for corporate worship God.
Such as what's the purpose for not commit adultery? To make a family happy? Or to make every family happy? Or else?
Same for all 1 to 10 commandments.

When I look at the Sabbath command in the Old Testament, I see several purposes attached to it.
Exodus 20 grounds it in God's rest after creation.
Deuteronomy 5 grounds it in Israel's redemption from Egypt.
It was also a covenant sign between God and Israel (Ex. 31:13-17).
The question then becomes: which of those purposes are universal and which are specifically tied to the Mosaic covenant?

I agree that simply asking whether the Sabbath provided physical rest does not exhaust its meaning.
In the same way, the command against adultery is not merely about making a family happy.
It reflects God's design for covenant faithfulness. Murder, theft, idolatry, and adultery all touch moral realities that the New Testament repeatedly reaffirms.

But that brings me back to the distinction I have been making.
If the Sabbath command continues as a binding obligation under the New Covenant, where does the New Testament reaffirm it in that way?
If its purpose was ultimately to point toward God's rest in Christ, then Hebrews 4 becomes especially important.
The writer moves beyond a day and speaks of a greater rest into which believers enter through faith.

So I agree we should examine the purpose of the Sabbath, not merely the rule itself.
My hesitation is that the New Testament seems to emphasize the fulfillment to which the Sabbath pointed more than it reiterates a weekly Sabbath obligation.
That is why I remain unconvinced that the apostles treated the Sabbath in exactly the same category as commands against adultery, murder, theft, or idolatry.
Those commands are repeatedly restated as moral obligations, whereas the Sabbath is more often discussed in terms of shadow, fulfillment, rest, and liberty regarding days.

Therefore, the question is not simply, "What was the purpose of the Sabbath?"
The question is, "How do the apostles say that purpose is carried forward under the New Covenant?"
I think that is where the real debate lies.

 

[Davidstarr]

That's not true, because the Sabbath was changed to Sunday 300 years before Roman Catholicism existed. The Apostles observed Sunday as the Christian Sabbath.

Where the biblical evidence?
Show where Sunday was set apart from any other day they gathered and worshiped.

 

[Davidstarr]

The Apostles never observed Sunday as the Christian Sabbath, before Christ's death and resurrection. It never entered the minds of the Apostles to break the forth commandment, so of 'course they never did it.

You failed to take into consideration a few important facts, before you asked your paradoxical question.

1. None of the Apostles believed that the Lord Jesus would rise from the dead, on the third day (Sunday). 2. There was absolutely no reason for the Apostles to break the forth commandment and change the day of worship to Sunday before Resurrection Sunday. 3. The Apostles had no authority or reason to make any changes to anything God commanded or ordained.

There is only One who has the authority to change anything He desires and that is the Lord Jesus, He is the Almighty Jehovah God, Creator of everything that exists. He created the Sabbath as a day of rest and worship, under the old covenant, and He is the One who created the new Covenant. Gods people now live under the new Covenant, where we celebrate Resurrection day every Sunday, with His full blessing and approval.

Asking for biblical evidence in support of a Sunday sabbath is NOT a paradoxical question.

 

[Davidstarr]

God didn't write the Bible in a way that you can understand. This is why He appointed Shepherds to teach us simple sheep what it all means. I get the sense that you don't have a Shepherd to teach you anything and that's why you're so confused about everything.

That is a Catholic view:
"The common layman does not have the cognitive ability to understand scripture.
This is why a priest must interpret the bible for them."

But, naturally, if a priest teaches anything contrary to Catholic doctrine he must recant or be anathema (declared a heretic).
He would lose his job and perhaps be fined, imprisoned, burned at the steak.....

 

[NightTwister]

How does this relate?

But add in verse 9 and you can see.
Loving our neighbor means:
No murder
No stealing
No adultery
No bearing false witness
No coveting what he has.

Aren't these in the 10 commandments?

BTW Love your neighbor is an OT command as well
Lev 19:18

BTW You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might is an OT command as well.
Deut 6:5

What Jesus didn't list was "don't work on the sabbath." That's because He is the fulfillment of the Sabbath.

 

[Davidstarr]

As I said before, 7th is important.
But you can start day 1 from any day.

There is no record showing manna day 1 is Sunday as cycle of creation Sunday.

When God says in creation week, make the 7th day holy, just that day. Not starting cycle week.

God started day 1 in Gen 1:5 and a day of rest on the 7th day (Gen 2:1-3).
Were there any other days before that 1st day?

Did God's people lose track of which day was the 7th day of the week?
If they did God set it straight with the 4th commandment at Mt. Sinai.

Did the Jews lose track of which day it was?
If they had Jesus would have set that straight.

Which day of the week was Jesus raised from the dead?
Are you claiming this was not on a Sunday?
If Sunday is the 1st day of the week then obviously Saturday is the 7th day of the week.

 

[Churchgoer]

God started day 1 in Gen 1:5 and a day of rest on the 7th day (Gen 2:1-3).
Were there any other days before that 1st day?

Did God's people lose track of which day was the 7th day of the week?
If they did God set it straight with the 4th commandment at Mt. Sinai.

Did the Jews lose track of which day it was?
If they had Jesus would have set that straight.

Which day of the week was Jesus raised from the dead?
Are you claiming this was not on a Sunday?
If Sunday is the 1st day of the week then obviously Saturday is the 7th day of the week.

John 20:19 gathering on 1st day. Jesus attending.

So your point is against Sunday of gathering?

Or against Saturday working? As we discussed, many don't work on Saturday already.

Or against early retirement?

Please make your point clear.

 

[Davidstarr]

Nt teaches do not forsake gathering, also prepare offering for gathering time.
Hebrew 10:25
1 Corinthians 16: 1 2

Note here Paul hinted they gather 1st day every week. I don't think there is any command to shift from Saturday to Sunday gathering. But somehow in Paul s time, it just happened.

This was not a weekly event and the text does say it was.
Paul was on one of his journeys and would be passing through Corinth.
He would not have been passing through the city every week. Some of his journeyings lasted for months.

He did not want the Christians in Corinth to take time gathering up their offerings on the day he would arrive.
So he asked them to take the time on the first day of the week to gather those offerings, to have them ready (in their hands) for the day he would reach Corinth.
Obviously he would not be there on the first day of the week. Because he did not want them to collect those offerings on the day he arrived.

When you post a biblical text you should really read it first before posting.

 

[Davidstarr]

John 20:19 gathering on 1st day. Jesus attending.

So your point is against Sunday of gathering?

Or against Saturday working? As we discussed, many don't work on Saturday already.

Or against early retirement?

Please make your point clear.

I am not against gathering for worship on any day of the week.
Yes, I am opposed to doing secular work on the sabbath.

It is lawful to do good on the sabbath and to save life.
Imagine a fire fighter saying "Let the house burn down. This is the sabbath."
Or a doctor "let the child die. It's the sabbath."
Or a disabled person who cannot work.
God will not command something if He knows it is impossible for said person to obey....

Obviously working a 6 day work week would only apply to someone who is able to work those 6 days.

 

[Churchgoer]

This was not a weekly event and the text does say it was.
Paul was on one of his journeys and would be passing through Corinth.
He would not have been passing through the city every week. Some of his journeyings lasted for months.

He did not want the Christians in Corinth to take time gathering up their offerings on the day he would arrive.
So he asked them to take the time on the first day of the week to gather those offerings, to have them ready (in their hands) for the day he would reach Corinth.
Obviously he would not be there on the first day of the week. Because he did not want them to collect those offerings on the day he arrived.

When you post a biblical text you should really read it first before posting.

Good point.
That chapter hinted they gathering weekly on 1st day, Sunday. Please read carefully.

 

[Churchgoer]

Good point.
That chapter hinted they gathering weekly on 1st day, Sunday. Please read carefully.

On the 1st day of "every " week.....
1 Corinthians 16

 

[Davidstarr]

Very good 2nd question:
"Did the New Testament establish a binding Christian Sabbath?"

Nt teaches do not forsake gathering. How often should we gather? Reference to ot.

I personally believe combining ot and nt, 7th is important, once a week corporate Gathering. Which day u pick, all fine.

The commands the 7th day sabbath.
Lev 23:3 "Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings."

Do you know what a "holy convocation" is?
A convocation is an assembly of people gathered together to learn.
A school classroom would be a convocation.
A "holy convocation" means specifically to learn about spiritual matter. Reading/studying scriptures.

Picking any day you want as the sabbath of the 4th commandment is rebellion is against God.

 

[Churchgoer]

The commands the 7th day sabbath.
Lev 23:3 "Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings."

Do you know what a "holy convocation" is?
A convocation is an assembly of people gathered together to learn.
A school classroom would be a convocation.
A "holy convocation" means specifically to learn about spiritual matter. Reading/studying scriptures.

Picking any day you want as the sabbath of the 4th commandment is rebellion is against God.

I am glad we have some clarification now.

So your point is Saturday holy assembly meeting is a must, correct?

Only firefighters, doctors... can have holy assembly on other day, correct?

 

[stilllearning]

My advice is accept the Holy day before it is too late.

The Holy sabbath day was made for man.
Not made for man to ignore and reject but to uphold and obey.

Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

"the holy of the LORD"

Because it is the Lord's holy day you should think twice about ignoring it.

Yes it was made for man. God is not a fool. In your caste system of moral laws, ceremonial laws, and etc. On the 6th day God gave in your caste system a dietary law. Do not eat. On the 7th day he established the Sabbath as a day of rest, not a day of mandatory worship, a day of mandatory rest.

Christ already had this discussion and since he does not use or have vain or idle words. He had the conversation over what his commandments and laws were. The woman at the well said you Jews say worship in Jerusalem. That was the only command ever given it was at creation when the God who does not dwell in houses made with mans hands. So he made his house he made a image or in the original he made a idol.

As in the near east they believed that the idol was not the god but where the god dwelled. So God made his idol, his image, his home. After Christ came and fixed the problem the spirit now makes us his home. As from the start God made his home and now dwells in it.

So the Sabbath since God knew man was going to sin. To which he would pass sentence and man have to work by the sweat of his brow and the ground be cursed. God ahead of time because his pattern is he makes the way ahead of time. Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. God made a day of rest prior to passing sentence on man. So yes the Sabbath was made for man as God is merciful towards us.

Christ claims he is Lord of the Sabbath and uses a law to define the Sabbath the commandment in stone. So it would appear that God places the same importance on anything he says and does not have the caste system your prophet has taught.

Deuteronomy 23:24-25 "When thou comest into thy neighbour's vineyard, then thou mayest eat grapes thy fill at thine own pleasure; but thou shalt not put any in thy vessel.

25When thou comest into the standing corn of thy neighbour, then thou mayest pluck the ears with thine hand; but thou shalt not move a sickle unto thy neighbour's standing corn."

So lets have the real argument according to what the bible says should we take Saturday off as our day of rest. As in do no work. As that is all the Sabbath has been proclaimed for a day not to work. A day that it is okay to have a bible study in your home. As when he says that the Sabbath is a day of convocation/reading in your dwellings, the word dwelling is in your house. As God declared his house which at that time was the Tabernacle and the only place that was permitted to worship.

Leviticus 23:3 "Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings."

Dwellings: moshab: Dwelling, habitation, seat, assembly, settlement

This is how the word can be used. So Strong's breaks down how the word in the various scriptures is using it.

c. = house Exodus 12:20 ("" בית Exodus 12:19),, Exodus 35:3; Leviticus 3:17; Leviticus 7:26; Leviticus 13:46; Leviticus 23:3,14,21,31;

Strong's Hebrew: 4186. מוֹשָׁב (moshab) -- Dwelling, habitation, seat, assembly, settlement

The Jews openly admit that they changed the command for the place of worship in the Talmud. Since they had no Temple in Babylon they changed the sacrafical system from blood to prayer and convocations or readings of the law in the Synagouge.

"Lord of the World, when the Temple was standing one who sinned offered a sacrifice, of which only the fat and the blood were taken, and thereby his sins were forgiven. Now that the Temple has been destroyed, what hast Thou given us in its stead? We have in its stead prayers and repentance, which are as acceptable to Thee as sacrifices."

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Berakhot 56b: "Prayer is regarded as a substitute for sacrifice."

https://www.chabad.org/torah-texts/5299914/Talmud/Berachot/Chapter-9/56b

The Synagogue did not become the place of worship in the exile or post it. God called it out as they had not built his house, his place.

Haggai 1:2 " Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, This people say, The time is not come, the time that the LORD'S house should be built"

1:4 "Is it time for you, O ye, to dwell in your cieled houses, and this house lie waste?"
1;7-9 "Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Consider your ways. 8Go up to the mountain, and bring wood, and build the house; and I will take pleasure in it, and I will be glorified, saith the LORD. 9Ye looked for much, and, lo, it came to little; and when ye brought it home, I did blow upon it. Why? saith the LORD of hosts. Because of mine house that is waste, and ye run every man unto his own house."

The Synagogue at the time of Christ did not replace the Temple as that was still the only place that bore the name of God and was his dwelling, his house.

Christ calls the Temple his fathers house. Here is what scripture has to say about the Synagouge.

Matthew 4:23 "And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues,......."
Matthew 9:35 "And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, "
Mathew 13:54 "And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue,"
Luke 4:15 "And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all."

What Acts says: Acts 13:5 "And when they were at Salamis, they preached the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews:"
Acts 14:1 "And it came to pass in Iconium, that they went both together into the synagogue of the Jews, "
Acts 17:1 "Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews:"

The Jews in exile and post exile changed the command of God his house the place he puts his name. Place to worship God: Tabernacle and latter Temple. Jews: Synagouge.

What God called worship: Sacrifice, your Temple duties or in your caste system the ceremonial laws. Jews: Prayers and reading of the law.

Obligated or required day to worship. God: Once a year on the Feast days. Jews required day: Weekly Sabbath or Saturday.

We can now worship any day and any place. Why because the name of God is in us. What God established has never changed. It has always been about the place, the place that he dwells, the place that bears his name. So wherever we are is the place since the name is on us and we are indwelt. He built his place, his house with his own hands from the beginning.

Your prophet's caste system and weekly Sabbath worship is preaching a different Jesus. To which let God be true and every man a liar. Your prophet has lied Sabbath worship or Sunday worship is not a salvation issue nor the mark of the beast, eternal damnation.