What if repentance is not about feeling guilty, regretful or ashamed? How do you define repentance?

[OMC]

Forgive me Jesus, a sinner. I struggle with it because I feel like I want to save some other little child from the evils (traps) I fell into that spread and I am slow so I had to learn the devils traps in order to ovoid them so I just feel like I need to tell others everything out of this mess I have found. I know it is the devil and in the end we cannot do anything about it but I feel I must warn others, even though most still refuse to look. Tell me, what is that? The trance everyone is in, you see it, I know you do. I was so lost man, and I see why, I see everything now. not everything but all the reason I went through hell... I feel like I need to show the world the path to light but I went through hell in order to get there and now I know why. Man I could show and tell thing that no one ever talks about nor thinks about because everyone feels like the system we are in, the times we are in and what we are heading for makes me want to say everything.

I wish I had someone like you in my life growing up. to set me down and explain things to me throughout but lets be honest most kids do not stand a chance why? Because we live in a system that take it all, chews it up and spits it out at us. I try so hard to be normal but I am not. It breaks me everyday. thinking about it all. I hope you and everyone understands I am not trying to preach hate because in the end I hate the sins but I see where these things (MUCH of IT) comes from. I guess some don't need shaken. I apologize and thank you.

Thank you. I do see you and you see me too, THANK YOU

Brother, thank you for saying that.

And yes, I think I understand what you're describing.

The danger is that your burden for people can slowly become a burden to control outcomes that only God can control.

You see the traps because you fell into some of them.
You see the lies because you believed some of them.
You see the darkness because Christ pulled you out of it.
That's not a bad thing. In fact, God often uses our scars to help others.

But remember something important: Noah spent decades warning people.
Jeremiah preached for years.
The prophets were ignored.
Even Jesus was rejected by many who heard Him.

Their responsibility was faithfulness, not results.

You ask: "What is that trance everyone is in?"
Scripture's answer is surprisingly simple: "The god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not" (2 Cor. 4:4).
Yet Scripture also says: "The heart is deceitful above all things" (Jer. 17:9).
The blindness is not merely "out there."
It is in fallen human nature.
That is why the solution is not merely exposing deception.
The solution is regeneration, repentance, and the work of the Spirit.

Brother, I don't think your struggle is that you care too much.
I think your struggle is that you carry too much.

You want to save every kid from making your mistakes.
You want to expose every lie.
You want people to wake up.
You want the world to make sense.
That's a burden no man can carry.

Christ never asked you to save the world.
He already has a Savior.

He asked you to follow Him.

The people you can help are often not reached through knowing everything that is wrong with the system.
They are reached because they meet someone who has been changed by Christ and can honestly say: "I was lost too."
There is great power in that testimony.

So keep warning people where appropriate.
Keep speaking truth.
But do not let the darkness become the center of your message.

The sheep are not gathered by hearing endlessly about wolves.
They are ultimately gathered by hearing the voice of the Shepherd.

And brother, from what you've written, I think your greatest witness is not what you've discovered about the world.
It is what Christ brought you out of. That is the light people need to see.

 

[Integrity]

Brother, thank you for saying that.

And yes, I think I understand what you're describing.

The danger is that your burden for people can slowly become a burden to control outcomes that only God can control.

You see the traps because you fell into some of them.
You see the lies because you believed some of them.
You see the darkness because Christ pulled you out of it.
That's not a bad thing. In fact, God often uses our scars to help others.

But remember something important: Noah spent decades warning people.
Jeremiah preached for years.
The prophets were ignored.
Even Jesus was rejected by many who heard Him.

Their responsibility was faithfulness, not results.

You ask: "What is that trance everyone is in?"
Scripture's answer is surprisingly simple: "The god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not" (2 Cor. 4:4).
Yet Scripture also says: "The heart is deceitful above all things" (Jer. 17:9).
The blindness is not merely "out there."
It is in fallen human nature.
That is why the solution is not merely exposing deception.
The solution is regeneration, repentance, and the work of the Spirit.

Brother, I don't think your struggle is that you care too much.
I think your struggle is that you carry too much.

You want to save every kid from making your mistakes.
You want to expose every lie.
You want people to wake up.
You want the world to make sense.
That's a burden no man can carry.

Christ never asked you to save the world.
He already has a Savior.

He asked you to follow Him.

The people you can help are often not reached through knowing everything that is wrong with the system.
They are reached because they meet someone who has been changed by Christ and can honestly say: "I was lost too."
There is great power in that testimony.

So keep warning people where appropriate.
Keep speaking truth.
But do not let the darkness become the center of your message.

The sheep are not gathered by hearing endlessly about wolves.
They are ultimately gathered by hearing the voice of the Shepherd.

And brother, from what you've written, I think your greatest witness is not what you've discovered about the world.
It is what Christ brought you out of. That is the light people need to see.

Thank you, from my heart and eyes full of tears, thank you. I needed the guidance and thank you. I need pray, thank you. I need read more and stop focusing on the world so much. Thank you.

 

[biblestudent78]

I am not blaming society but I am saying we are LOST, everyone is blind if they cannot see we have been mislead throughout all generations. Schools are indoctrination and the things you have learned are bias. "HUMAN FAILURE"? Saying that one can and will still go to heaven if they do not turn from these sins ( all you must do is believe) is not of my Fathers teachings. One must and will change if they truly wish to know Christ. I think we can all agree upon that. You got to take the bad out of yourself, surrender, or however you wish to put it and purify your soul... None are Good besides the Father but that does not mean we can do what we want and keep getting away with it. THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. The non-fruit will be cast out, so I believe in order to change the least we can do is change ourselves from within. know I am speaking as a sinner. I WAS A DOPE HEAD, PROSTITUTE, AND EVERYTHING BAD YOU CAN THINK THAT COMES FROM THAT, AND I DO TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR MY ROLE but you must see that children are being guided into this life of sin...

They are showing us what they want us to do or be. If you look into shows that were displayed for the public to watch around the late 50s throughout the 60s such as “Leave It to Beaver, or my favorite Andy Griffith. These shows set aside at least 30minutes at the end to display a moral lesson learned. The Majority of American families stayed intact. Then in the ’70s shows started displaying single-family sitcoms like Maude, Mary Tyler Moore, and One Day at a Time. Divorce Rates in America also skyrocketed throughout the ’70s. Then cable television started in the ’80s. New sitcoms like The Cosby Show and Family Ties both featured a new take on modern family life, with the mothers working outside of the home. These things have been studied LONG AGO and there is a direct correlation when it comes to things we see, hear, and are subject to heavily influence our society. What government has paid American influencers to promote their content and bias-fear on social media. Google, TikTok, VPN, Facebook, BlackRock, The Banking world and all the wars that have come…. Once you start noticing, you cannot stop. Rap music back in the day was designed to influence so many youths for a reason.

That shut down was a test. Imagine a world where A.I. can take any image of you and edit it as proof of a crime. Think for a moment on this, We already live in a world that is so saturated that people sound like bots. Everything they see they pretend to be and everything they hear they memorize to create a reality. No one knows what is or what is not anymore already. People have a shared linguistic ecosystem now. Anyone that does not agree with any agendas being pushed or speaks against the establishment is subject to persecution. The blind think they see.

Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the (WHAT?) leaders.”
How much better to get wisdom than gold! To get understanding is to be chosen rather than silver. Proverbs 16:16

It is, as if, everyone is under a spell, including myself at times. Why is it that people do not think anymore? “Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.”, why do we not question the history we have been taught since we keep REPEATING IT!!!?

37 assassinations in Mexico before one president won in a (90% Catholic nation) and no one questions it. who or what group eliminating all rivals?
Claudia Sheinbaum, president of Mexico.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy, President of Ukraine.

Laurentino Cortizo, President of Panama

Mikhail Mishustin, Prime Minister of Russia

Gabriel Attal, Prime Minister of France

Javier Gerardo Milei President of Argentina.

Do you still not see? It is our fault that we are still allowing this fire to spread, we did not start the fire but the least we can do is connect some dots. None of these people are Christian btw. For how can one be Christian if they do not believe Jesus was the son? Something is blinding, and I believe it is sin. Many are too pridful to admit all of humanity is retarded and we have been easily lead and lied to our whole lives. They just cannot fathom it and I do not know why.

all are part of the same book club that truly contridics Christ, and I am not speaking about the muslims. So why for the life of me people can be so mad at those who have been paid to come here without batting an eye at those who FUNDED the invations, its beyond me.... They get to have their own land but make Chritians fight for it while they flood our own lands??? WHAT ARE PEOPLE NOT SEEING? ALL THE ISIMS look back you will see they are surrounded by these puppet masters. They created all the divistion and terroisim. KING DAVID HOSTEL!!!

 

[biblestudent78]

Integrity:
The story of mankind is a story of moral failure personally and socially. You seem pretty aware of current or recent issues of corruption, so let me take you back.
Integrity:
As I noted there is a lot wrong with many societies and always has been. I would remind all of us that across all the major prophets and all the minor prophets a significant portion of their criticism of the power structures of their time was that they were corrupt. The rich predated on the poor. They stole land, they defrauded the poor with false weights, etd. The powerful were preditory on the powerless and the immorality of their societies was unacceptable to God.

Isiah condemned leaders who "grind the faces of the poor" and devour the houses of widows and orphans.
Judicial Corruption: He spoke out against judges and officials who accepted bribes and denied justice to the marginalized (Isaiah 1:23, 5:23).Land Grabbing: He pronounced "woe" on the wealthy who bought up all the land and houses so that there was no room left for the poor. Meaningless Rituals: He declared that their prayers, offerings, and festivals were detestable to God because their hands were "full of blood" from oppressing others (Isaiah 1:11-15) Human Pride: He continually attacked the pride, haughtiness, and self-sufficiency of the nation, warning that all human arrogance would be humbled (Isaiah 2:11-17) Hypocrisy: The people committed rampant sins—stealing, murder, adultery, and lying—while still claiming they were safe merely because they attended the temple.

Jeramiah' criticized Oppression of the Vulnerable: Jeremiah 5 and 7 specifically condemn the rich and the judges for exploiting the poor, taking advantage of widows, and ignoring the needs of orphans and foreigners. Deception and Bribery: Truth had perished in the streets. Society was marked by deceit, slander, and a total inability to trust one another. Ezekiel criticized Social Oppression and Violence: The shedding of innocent blood, extortion, and the systemic abuse of the vulnerable, including widows, orphans, resident foreigners, and the poor. Corruption of Leaders: Princes and government officials acting like predatory wolves to gain dishonest wealth, and priests disregarding the Law and failing to distinguish between the holy and the profane. Corruption of Leaders: Princes and government officials acting like predatory wolves to gain dishonest wealth, and priests disregarding the Law and failing to distinguish between the holy and the profane.

Amos Often called the prophet of social justice, he fiercely denounced the elite for luxurious living built on the backs of the poor. He famously condemned those who "buy the poor for silver and the needy for a pair of sandals". He fiercely criticized the wealthy for exploiting the poor, trampling on the needy, and taking bribes. He famously declared, "Let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream!"

Corruption in Israel started with the Judges, Deborah, Gideon and Samson. Few leaders were more corrupt than Saul, David, Solomon, Jeroboam I, Omri, Jehu, Hoshea and Ahab. In Judea the corrupt kings included Rehoboam, Abijah, Jehoram, Ahariah, Josah, Ahaz, Jehoahaz. The Northern Kingdom of Israel lasted about 200 years in total. The southern kingdom of Judah was independent for only 111 years when they were captured by the Babylonians in waves around 586 BC, then ruled by the Persian and later the Greeks until 141 BC when they gained self rule again. That lasted only 111 years until 70 AD.

You have cataloged corruption in our society. Allow me to use our prophets as a basis for criticizing our "Christian Leaders." There is too much corruption to mention all of them but beginning with landmark investigative reporting into the Archdiocese of Boston in 2002 (and expanding worldwide for decades), widespread revelations showed that Catholic bishops systematically moved or protected clergy members accused of child sexual abuse rather than reporting them to law enforcement. n 2022, a sweeping third-party investigation revealed that SBC executive committee leaders for decades suppressed abuse claims, demonized victims, and resisted reforms to protect church autonomy over child safety. They have eliminated their sex offender registry.
• Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker / PTL Club (1989): Televangelist Jim Bakker was convicted of financial fraud and conspiracy involving $158 million raised through his Praise the Lord (PTL) ministry, leading to a lengthy prison sentence.
• Jimmy Swaggart (1988–1991): High-profile television evangelist Jimmy Swaggart lost his multi-million-dollar media empire after multiple public scandals involving sex workers.
• Ravi Zacharias (2020–2021): Posthumous investigations into global apologist Ravi Zacharias revealed decades of severe sexual abuse, coercion, and spiritual manipulation targeting massage therapists and women.
• Robert Morris (2025): The founder of Gateway Church in Texas pleaded guilty in October 2025 to multiple counts of lewd or indecent acts with a child dating back decades, leading to his resignation and criminal conviction.
• Assemblies of God Cover-Ups: Investigations highlighted nearly 200 church leaders and volunteers within the Assemblies of God network who were accused of abusing hundreds of individuals, often shielded by local-church autonomy policies and resistance to mandatory reporting. 11 Pentecostal leaders were found guilty of crimes. 12 Major Protestant leaders were convicted of crimes. The "prosperity Gospel" is emptying the pockets of the poor to make multi-millionaires of their pastors.

 

[Integrity]

Integrity:
The story of mankind is a story of moral failure personally and socially. You seem pretty aware of current or recent issues of corruption, so let me take you back.
Integrity:
As I noted there is a lot wrong with many societies and always has been. I would remind all of us that across all the major prophets and all the minor prophets a significant portion of their criticism of the power structures of their time was that they were corrupt. The rich predated on the poor. They stole land, they defrauded the poor with false weights, etd. The powerful were preditory on the powerless and the immorality of their societies was unacceptable to God.

Isiah condemned leaders who "grind the faces of the poor" and devour the houses of widows and orphans.
Judicial Corruption: He spoke out against judges and officials who accepted bribes and denied justice to the marginalized (Isaiah 1:23, 5:23).Land Grabbing: He pronounced "woe" on the wealthy who bought up all the land and houses so that there was no room left for the poor. Meaningless Rituals: He declared that their prayers, offerings, and festivals were detestable to God because their hands were "full of blood" from oppressing others (Isaiah 1:11-15) Human Pride: He continually attacked the pride, haughtiness, and self-sufficiency of the nation, warning that all human arrogance would be humbled (Isaiah 2:11-17) Hypocrisy: The people committed rampant sins—stealing, murder, adultery, and lying—while still claiming they were safe merely because they attended the temple.

Jeramiah' criticized Oppression of the Vulnerable: Jeremiah 5 and 7 specifically condemn the rich and the judges for exploiting the poor, taking advantage of widows, and ignoring the needs of orphans and foreigners. Deception and Bribery: Truth had perished in the streets. Society was marked by deceit, slander, and a total inability to trust one another. Ezekiel criticized Social Oppression and Violence: The shedding of innocent blood, extortion, and the systemic abuse of the vulnerable, including widows, orphans, resident foreigners, and the poor. Corruption of Leaders: Princes and government officials acting like predatory wolves to gain dishonest wealth, and priests disregarding the Law and failing to distinguish between the holy and the profane. Corruption of Leaders: Princes and government officials acting like predatory wolves to gain dishonest wealth, and priests disregarding the Law and failing to distinguish between the holy and the profane.

Amos Often called the prophet of social justice, he fiercely denounced the elite for luxurious living built on the backs of the poor. He famously condemned those who "buy the poor for silver and the needy for a pair of sandals". He fiercely criticized the wealthy for exploiting the poor, trampling on the needy, and taking bribes. He famously declared, "Let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream!"

Corruption in Israel started with the Judges, Deborah, Gideon and Samson. Few leaders were more corrupt than Saul, David, Solomon, Jeroboam I, Omri, Jehu, Hoshea and Ahab. In Judea the corrupt kings included Rehoboam, Abijah, Jehoram, Ahariah, Josah, Ahaz, Jehoahaz. The Northern Kingdom of Israel lasted about 200 years in total. The southern kingdom of Judah was independent for only 111 years when they were captured by the Babylonians in waves around 586 BC, then ruled by the Persian and later the Greeks until 141 BC when they gained self rule again. That lasted only 111 years until 70 AD.

You have cataloged corruption in our society. Allow me to use our prophets as a basis for criticizing our "Christian Leaders." There is too much corruption to mention all of them but beginning with landmark investigative reporting into the Archdiocese of Boston in 2002 (and expanding worldwide for decades), widespread revelations showed that Catholic bishops systematically moved or protected clergy members accused of child sexual abuse rather than reporting them to law enforcement. n 2022, a sweeping third-party investigation revealed that SBC executive committee leaders for decades suppressed abuse claims, demonized victims, and resisted reforms to protect church autonomy over child safety. They have eliminated their sex offender registry.
• Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker / PTL Club (1989): Televangelist Jim Bakker was convicted of financial fraud and conspiracy involving $158 million raised through his Praise the Lord (PTL) ministry, leading to a lengthy prison sentence.
• Jimmy Swaggart (1988–1991): High-profile television evangelist Jimmy Swaggart lost his multi-million-dollar media empire after multiple public scandals involving sex workers.
• Ravi Zacharias (2020–2021): Posthumous investigations into global apologist Ravi Zacharias revealed decades of severe sexual abuse, coercion, and spiritual manipulation targeting massage therapists and women.
• Robert Morris (2025): The founder of Gateway Church in Texas pleaded guilty in October 2025 to multiple counts of lewd or indecent acts with a child dating back decades, leading to his resignation and criminal conviction.
• Assemblies of God Cover-Ups: Investigations highlighted nearly 200 church leaders and volunteers within the Assemblies of God network who were accused of abusing hundreds of individuals, often shielded by local-church autonomy policies and resistance to mandatory reporting. 11 Pentecostal leaders were found guilty of crimes. 12 Major Protestant leaders were convicted of crimes. The "prosperity Gospel" is emptying the pockets of the poor to make multi-millionaires of their pastors.

Thank you.

 

[bytheblood]

You notably did not answer any of my questions.

In Deuteronomy 30, it forms the basis for the New Covenant by prophesying about a time when the Israelites will return from exile, God will circumcise their hearts, and they will return to obedience to the Torah, which is what Jeremiah 31:33 and Ezekiel 36:26-27 are in regard to. In Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant involves God putting the Mosaic Law in our minds and writing it on our hearts, and in Ezekiel 36:26-27, it involves God taking away our hearts of stone, giving us hearts of flesh, and sending His Spirit to lead us in obedience to the Torah, so those who want nothing to do with following Christ's example of obedience to it also want nothing to with being under the New Covenant. Jesus spent his ministry teaching his followers to obey the Torah by word and by example and the reason why he established the New Covenant was not in order to nullify anything that he spent his ministry teaching or so that we could continue to have the same lawlessness that caused it to be needed in the first place, but rather it still involve following the Torah.

In Hebrews 8:7-9, the fault that God found with the Mosaic Covenant was not with His righteousness or righteous laws, but rather He found fault with the people for not continuing in their covenant, so the reason why the New Covenant was needed was not in order to do way with God's righteousness and righteous laws but to do away with what was hindering us from obeying them. This is why the New Covenant involve God sending us His Son to free us from sin so that we might be free to meet the righteous requirement of the Torah (Romans 8:3-4), God taking away our hearts of stone, giving us hearts of flesh, and sending His Spirit to lead us in obedience to the Torah (Ezekiel 36:26-27), and God putting the Torah in our minds and writing it on our hearts so that we will obey it (Jeremiah 31:33).

".... but rather He found fault with the people for not continuing in their covenant,..." You act as if God didn't know the end from the beginning. God gave the law KNOWING that mere man could not fulfill it, and thereby should have caused them to realize that they, like all mankind, needed a Savior.

I believe there may be a different thrust involved here.

Yes, there is the Law of the Lord.

Not to be confused with the Law of Moses.

Soyeong has been insisting that Christians should follow the Mosaic Law, I insist the Law of Love. Now if the Law of the Lord, as you call it, is the same as the Law of Love than we agree, if not I need you to explain what you say the Law of the Lord is.

 

[Integrity]

Integrity:
The story of mankind is a story of moral failure personally and socially. You seem pretty aware of current or recent issues of corruption, so let me take you back.
Integrity:
As I noted there is a lot wrong with many societies and always has been. I would remind all of us that across all the major prophets and all the minor prophets a significant portion of their criticism of the power structures of their time was that they were corrupt. The rich predated on the poor. They stole land, they defrauded the poor with false weights, etd. The powerful were preditory on the powerless and the immorality of their societies was unacceptable to God.

Isiah condemned leaders who "grind the faces of the poor" and devour the houses of widows and orphans.
Judicial Corruption: He spoke out against judges and officials who accepted bribes and denied justice to the marginalized (Isaiah 1:23, 5:23).Land Grabbing: He pronounced "woe" on the wealthy who bought up all the land and houses so that there was no room left for the poor. Meaningless Rituals: He declared that their prayers, offerings, and festivals were detestable to God because their hands were "full of blood" from oppressing others (Isaiah 1:11-15) Human Pride: He continually attacked the pride, haughtiness, and self-sufficiency of the nation, warning that all human arrogance would be humbled (Isaiah 2:11-17) Hypocrisy: The people committed rampant sins—stealing, murder, adultery, and lying—while still claiming they were safe merely because they attended the temple.

Jeramiah' criticized Oppression of the Vulnerable: Jeremiah 5 and 7 specifically condemn the rich and the judges for exploiting the poor, taking advantage of widows, and ignoring the needs of orphans and foreigners. Deception and Bribery: Truth had perished in the streets. Society was marked by deceit, slander, and a total inability to trust one another. Ezekiel criticized Social Oppression and Violence: The shedding of innocent blood, extortion, and the systemic abuse of the vulnerable, including widows, orphans, resident foreigners, and the poor. Corruption of Leaders: Princes and government officials acting like predatory wolves to gain dishonest wealth, and priests disregarding the Law and failing to distinguish between the holy and the profane. Corruption of Leaders: Princes and government officials acting like predatory wolves to gain dishonest wealth, and priests disregarding the Law and failing to distinguish between the holy and the profane.

Amos Often called the prophet of social justice, he fiercely denounced the elite for luxurious living built on the backs of the poor. He famously condemned those who "buy the poor for silver and the needy for a pair of sandals". He fiercely criticized the wealthy for exploiting the poor, trampling on the needy, and taking bribes. He famously declared, "Let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream!"

Corruption in Israel started with the Judges, Deborah, Gideon and Samson. Few leaders were more corrupt than Saul, David, Solomon, Jeroboam I, Omri, Jehu, Hoshea and Ahab. In Judea the corrupt kings included Rehoboam, Abijah, Jehoram, Ahariah, Josah, Ahaz, Jehoahaz. The Northern Kingdom of Israel lasted about 200 years in total. The southern kingdom of Judah was independent for only 111 years when they were captured by the Babylonians in waves around 586 BC, then ruled by the Persian and later the Greeks until 141 BC when they gained self rule again. That lasted only 111 years until 70 AD.

You have cataloged corruption in our society. Allow me to use our prophets as a basis for criticizing our "Christian Leaders." There is too much corruption to mention all of them but beginning with landmark investigative reporting into the Archdiocese of Boston in 2002 (and expanding worldwide for decades), widespread revelations showed that Catholic bishops systematically moved or protected clergy members accused of child sexual abuse rather than reporting them to law enforcement. n 2022, a sweeping third-party investigation revealed that SBC executive committee leaders for decades suppressed abuse claims, demonized victims, and resisted reforms to protect church autonomy over child safety. They have eliminated their sex offender registry.
• Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker / PTL Club (1989): Televangelist Jim Bakker was convicted of financial fraud and conspiracy involving $158 million raised through his Praise the Lord (PTL) ministry, leading to a lengthy prison sentence.
• Jimmy Swaggart (1988–1991): High-profile television evangelist Jimmy Swaggart lost his multi-million-dollar media empire after multiple public scandals involving sex workers.
• Ravi Zacharias (2020–2021): Posthumous investigations into global apologist Ravi Zacharias revealed decades of severe sexual abuse, coercion, and spiritual manipulation targeting massage therapists and women.
• Robert Morris (2025): The founder of Gateway Church in Texas pleaded guilty in October 2025 to multiple counts of lewd or indecent acts with a child dating back decades, leading to his resignation and criminal conviction.
• Assemblies of God Cover-Ups: Investigations highlighted nearly 200 church leaders and volunteers within the Assemblies of God network who were accused of abusing hundreds of individuals, often shielded by local-church autonomy policies and resistance to mandatory reporting. 11 Pentecostal leaders were found guilty of crimes. 12 Major Protestant leaders were convicted of crimes. The "prosperity Gospel" is emptying the pockets of the poor to make multi-millionaires of their pastors.

That is why I feel so strongly in calling the wrong out. I was raised to believe one way, find out its lies, and now I just try to tell everyone else. The worldly churches were corrupted long ago. Think of how many different sects of Christianity there are. I understand you wish me to not point fingers at a select group.

I think back to WW2 and what it done to my family alone.....Then one learns about the Bolsheviks and the Wiemar Republic.. We grow up being taught LIES.... and I see the SAME DEMONS... My whole family suffered so much loss and now I see the same demons doing it again. Jesus be with me. Thank you for helping me to see.

I know corruption and sin can run through everyone but when one GROUP who claim to be chosen does these SAME evil things time, THROUGHOUT HISTORY, I have but one conclusion. They are of the devil. I know and understand there is nothing I can do about it.

The struggle is real. Thank you and I will cool down. God bless you

 

[OMC]

Thank you, from my heart and eyes full of tears, thank you. I needed the guidance and thank you. I need pray, thank you. I need read more and stop focusing on the world so much. Thank you.

I am here to talk, study or just to let you vent lol. Just ask my friend

 

[Integrity]

Brother, thank you for saying that.

And yes, I think I understand what you're describing.

The danger is that your burden for people can slowly become a burden to control outcomes that only God can control.

You see the traps because you fell into some of them.
You see the lies because you believed some of them.
You see the darkness because Christ pulled you out of it.
That's not a bad thing. In fact, God often uses our scars to help others.

But remember something important: Noah spent decades warning people.
Jeremiah preached for years.
The prophets were ignored.
Even Jesus was rejected by many who heard Him.

Their responsibility was faithfulness, not results.

You ask: "What is that trance everyone is in?"
Scripture's answer is surprisingly simple: "The god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not" (2 Cor. 4:4).
Yet Scripture also says: "The heart is deceitful above all things" (Jer. 17:9).
The blindness is not merely "out there."
It is in fallen human nature.
That is why the solution is not merely exposing deception.
The solution is regeneration, repentance, and the work of the Spirit.

Brother, I don't think your struggle is that you care too much.
I think your struggle is that you carry too much.

You want to save every kid from making your mistakes.
You want to expose every lie.
You want people to wake up.
You want the world to make sense.
That's a burden no man can carry.

Christ never asked you to save the world.
He already has a Savior.

He asked you to follow Him.

The people you can help are often not reached through knowing everything that is wrong with the system.
They are reached because they meet someone who has been changed by Christ and can honestly say: "I was lost too."
There is great power in that testimony.

So keep warning people where appropriate.
Keep speaking truth.
But do not let the darkness become the center of your message.

The sheep are not gathered by hearing endlessly about wolves.
They are ultimately gathered by hearing the voice of the Shepherd.

And brother, from what you've written, I think your greatest witness is not what you've discovered about the world.
It is what Christ brought you out of. That is the light people need to see.

Sorry, I cannot message you because money lol. Can I ask you, what do you think about the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo? Do you believe all Christians should look into the words changing and even word meanings throughout time?

Should we not seek? The more I learned the more open my eyes opened to how blind we all truly are. I hope I am not bothering you. I also wanted to say thank you.

 

[OMC]

Sorry, I cannot message you because money lol. Can I ask you, what do you think about the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo? Do you believe all Christians should look into the words changing and even word meanings throughout time?

Should we not seek? The more I learned the more open my eyes opened to how blind we all truly are. I hope I am not bothering you. I also wanted to say thank you.

Brother, you're not bothering me at all.

Regarding the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, I think every Christian should be willing to learn from history, manuscripts, languages, and how the faith has been understood in different places.
At the same time, I don't think any church, tradition, or denomination should be accepted uncritically.
The Bereans were commended because they: "searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so" (Acts 17:11).
That remains the standard.

And yes, I absolutely believe Christians should study words, context, and meanings carefully.
Words matter.
Context matters.
Culture matters.
Sometimes people build entire doctrines on modern meanings that are not what the biblical writers intended.
But I would add one caution: learning more should make us more humble, not less.
The deeper I study Scripture, the more aware I become of how much I still don't know.

You mentioned that the more you learned, the more you realized how blind we all are.
There is truth in that. Paul said: "For now we see through a glass, darkly" (1 Cor. 13:12).
The danger is when we move from: "I was blind about many things"
to "Everyone else is blind, and I finally see clearly."
Scripture warns all of us against that temptation.

Keep seeking.
Keep asking questions.
Keep testing what you hear.
But let Scripture remain the authority above every teacher, church, tradition, movement, and internet personality.
If your search for truth is drawing you closer to Christ, making you more teachable, more loving, and more faithful to Scripture, then you're headed in the right direction.

And thank you for the kind words, brother.
I appreciate them more than you know.

 

[biblestudent78]

Brother, you're not bothering me at all.

Regarding the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, I think every Christian should be willing to learn from history, manuscripts, languages, and how the faith has been understood in different places.
At the same time, I don't think any church, tradition, or denomination should be accepted uncritically.
The Bereans were commended because they: "searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so" (Acts 17:11).
That remains the standard.

And yes, I absolutely believe Christians should study words, context, and meanings carefully.
Words matter.
Context matters.
Culture matters.
Sometimes people build entire doctrines on modern meanings that are not what the biblical writers intended.
But I would add one caution: learning more should make us more humble, not less.
The deeper I study Scripture, the more aware I become of how much I still don't know.

You mentioned that the more you learned, the more you realized how blind we all are.
There is truth in that. Paul said: "For now we see through a glass, darkly" (1 Cor. 13:12).
The danger is when we move from: "I was blind about many things"
to "Everyone else is blind, and I finally see clearly."
Scripture warns all of us against that temptation.

Keep seeking.
Keep asking questions.
Keep testing what you hear.
But let Scripture remain the authority above every teacher, church, tradition, movement, and internet personality.
If your search for truth is drawing you closer to Christ, making you more teachable, more loving, and more faithful to Scripture, then you're headed in the right direction.

And thank you for the kind words, brother.
I appreciate them more than you know.

OMC & Integrity:
As an eternal student, I appreciate both you as long and deep students of the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament. In my case, I find myself on permanent horns of our common dilemma. There is deep gratification as over the years new insights arise from long studied texts. Those insights tend to cluster around two poles. First are insights that come from my collateral studies in Biblical manuscript families and the second arises from my continued fascination with the historical settings that illuminate scripture and the evolution of Christianity. The second horn is a deep conviction that we have replaced christian living with christian orthodoxies. For instance, every prophet major and minor as well as Jesus focused on what a life converted from obedience to culture/world to obedience to Jesus looks like. Jesus's long dialog in Matthew 25 for instance, may well have been a summary of every prophet God ever sent to mankind. My intuition is that many define gospel "truth" as whatever set of doctrines handed down generation by generation from the 16th - 20th century. Those so committed to argumentation and proof text validation feel compelled to establish their "truth" as the only acceptable word of God. My perspective is that Jesus is the only Word - (logos) of God.

There is an excellent on Facebook reels video on the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church at https://www.facebook.com/reel/1102133112917517

 

[Integrity]

Brother, you're not bothering me at all.

Regarding the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, I think every Christian should be willing to learn from history, manuscripts, languages, and how the faith has been understood in different places.
At the same time, I don't think any church, tradition, or denomination should be accepted uncritically.
The Bereans were commended because they: "searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so" (Acts 17:11).
That remains the standard.

And yes, I absolutely believe Christians should study words, context, and meanings carefully.
Words matter.
Context matters.
Culture matters.
Sometimes people build entire doctrines on modern meanings that are not what the biblical writers intended.
But I would add one caution: learning more should make us more humble, not less.
The deeper I study Scripture, the more aware I become of how much I still don't know.

You mentioned that the more you learned, the more you realized how blind we all are.
There is truth in that. Paul said: "For now we see through a glass, darkly" (1 Cor. 13:12).
The danger is when we move from: "I was blind about many things"
to "Everyone else is blind, and I finally see clearly."
Scripture warns all of us against that temptation.

Keep seeking.
Keep asking questions.
Keep testing what you hear.
But let Scripture remain the authority above every teacher, church, tradition, movement, and internet personality.
If your search for truth is drawing you closer to Christ, making you more teachable, more loving, and more faithful to Scripture, then you're headed in the right direction.

And thank you for the kind words, brother.
I appreciate them more than you

OMC & Integrity:
As an eternal student, I appreciate both you as long and deep students of the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament. In my case, I find myself on permanent horns of our common dilemma. There is deep gratification as over the years new insights arise from long studied texts. Those insights tend to cluster around two poles. First are insights that come from my collateral studies in Biblical manuscript families and the second arises from my continued fascination with the historical settings that illuminate scripture and the evolution of Christianity. The second horn is a deep conviction that we have replaced christian living with christian orthodoxies. For instance, every prophet major and minor as well as Jesus focused on what a life converted from obedience to culture/world to obedience to Jesus looks like. Jesus's long dialog in Matthew 25 for instance, may well have been a summary of every prophet God ever sent to mankind. My intuition is that many define gospel "truth" as whatever set of doctrines handed down generation by generation from the 16th - 20th century. Those so committed to argumentation and proof text validation feel compelled to establish their "truth" as the only acceptable word of God. My perspective is that Jesus is the only Word - (logos) of God.

There is an excellent on Facebook reels video on the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church at https://www.facebook.com/reel/1102133112917517

Well said. and thank you very much.

 

[OMC]

As an eternal student, I appreciate both you as long and deep students of the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament. In my case, I find myself on permanent horns of our common dilemma. There is deep gratification as over the years new insights arise from long studied texts. Those insights tend to cluster around two poles. First are insights that come from my collateral studies in Biblical manuscript families and the second arises from my continued fascination with the historical settings that illuminate scripture and the evolution of Christianity. The second horn is a deep conviction that we have replaced christian living with christian orthodoxies. For instance, every prophet major and minor as well as Jesus focused on what a life converted from obedience to culture/world to obedience to Jesus looks like. Jesus's long dialog in Matthew 25 for instance, may well have been a summary of every prophet God ever sent to mankind. My intuition is that many define gospel "truth" as whatever set of doctrines handed down generation by generation from the 16th - 20th century. Those so committed to argumentation and proof text validation feel compelled to establish their "truth" as the only acceptable word of God. My perspective is that Jesus is the only Word - (logos) of God.

I appreciate the spirit of what you're saying far more than many of the debates we've been having.

I agree that there is a danger in becoming so focused on defending a theological system that we lose sight of the transformed life the prophets, Jesus, and the apostles were actually calling people to live.
The prophets repeatedly condemned injustice, hypocrisy, idolatry, pride, oppression, and empty religion.
Jesus did the same.
Matthew 25 is indeed striking because the dividing line is not theological sophistication but whether people demonstrated the reality of God's work in their lives.

Where I would offer a small qualification is your final statement: "Jesus is the only Word (Logos) of God."

In one sense, absolutely.
John 1 identifies Christ as the eternal Logos.
No book, translation, doctrine, or tradition can ever replace Him.

But Scripture also speaks of the written word of God. Jesus repeatedly appealed to: "It is written..."
and treated the Scriptures as God's own speech (Matt. 4:4, 7, 10; John 10:35).

So I would not place Christ and Scripture against one another.
The written Word bears witness to the living Word.

What I find most valuable in your comment is your reminder that doctrine exists for a purpose.
Correct doctrine should produce correct living.
If our study of manuscripts, textual families, prophetic systems, covenants, eschatology, and theology does not ultimately lead to greater love for God and neighbor, then we've missed the very thing the prophets, Jesus, and the apostles were trying to accomplish.

I think many of our arguments arise because we often assume that accurate doctrine and transformed living are competitors. Scripture presents them as partners.
Truth should lead to holiness, and holiness should be grounded in truth.

On that point, I suspect far more agreement exists than many participants in these debates realize.

 

[spititlaws]

IMHO, the word repentance may have been misunderstood by Christians for generations. In English it sounds like guilt, regret, and endless apology. But the original Hebrew word is teshuva, derived from the verb shuv, meaning to return. Not to feel sorry. To physically turn around and move in a completely different direction. Our Understanding of this single word could reframe everything Jesus meant when He said repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. For easy reference:
Matthew 4:17: "From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, 'Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.'"Mark 1:15: "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel." Luke 13:3 & 13:5: "No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish."Luke 5:32: "I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance." Jesus taught that heaven celebrates when a person repents, comparing it to a lost item being found or a prodigal child returning home (Luke 15:7, 10).

Repentance means to acknowledge error and change behavior. Jesus said he came to teach repentance, and after his resurrection told the disciples to teach repentance for the remission of sins. To remit sins (besides forgiving others) we have to repent. This is the Good News of the Gospels. There is a way to repair our relationship with God. All we have to do is admit we made a mistake and change our behavior -- to repent. Like the story of the Prodigal Son, God rejoices when we recognize we are in error and change our behavior. It isn't a lifelong guilt trip. It's a joyous journey of learning how to perceive God's guidance for how to make restitution where we can and how to live closer to God's rules for the living so our relationships and contribution to the community are constructive.

 

[Integrity]

I appreciate the spirit of what you're saying far more than many of the debates we've been having.

I agree that there is a danger in becoming so focused on defending a theological system that we lose sight of the transformed life the prophets, Jesus, and the apostles were actually calling people to live.
The prophets repeatedly condemned injustice, hypocrisy, idolatry, pride, oppression, and empty religion.
Jesus did the same.
Matthew 25 is indeed striking because the dividing line is not theological sophistication but whether people demonstrated the reality of God's work in their lives.

Where I would offer a small qualification is your final statement: "Jesus is the only Word (Logos) of God."

In one sense, absolutely.
John 1 identifies Christ as the eternal Logos.
No book, translation, doctrine, or tradition can ever replace Him.

But Scripture also speaks of the written word of God. Jesus repeatedly appealed to: "It is written..."
and treated the Scriptures as God's own speech (Matt. 4:4, 7, 10; John 10:35).

So I would not place Christ and Scripture against one another.
The written Word bears witness to the living Word.

What I find most valuable in your comment is your reminder that doctrine exists for a purpose.
Correct doctrine should produce correct living.
If our study of manuscripts, textual families, prophetic systems, covenants, eschatology, and theology does not ultimately lead to greater love for God and neighbor, then we've missed the very thing the prophets, Jesus, and the apostles were trying to accomplish.

I think many of our arguments arise because we often assume that accurate doctrine and transformed living are competitors. Scripture presents them as partners.
Truth should lead to holiness, and holiness should be grounded in truth.

On that point, I suspect far more agreement exists than many participants in these debates realize.

 

[Integrity]

We grow up idolizing those with money. We are taught to be like them never knowing we are sheep. They get us to trade everything GOOD for things they tell us we need and they program everything to keep us away from Jesus. The pilgrims have no clue the puritans are devouring us. Should we not cry out? Nothing can ever change for the better unless people accept truth. I struggle if it is my fight but is it ours? Imagine how many “Christians” support the devil without even knowing. I am glad when someone helps me see. I know most are not and it’s shocking to face what we have become but I struggle not saying anything. I know in the end none of these matters, but our souls do and what is inside counts. Yet it says the blind will be forgiven, and it also says to trust in Gods plan. Only God is GOOD, so the people trusting in an evil system that they do not see--- I BELIEVE THEY NEED TO BE WOKEN. But I could be wrong, I struggle with this every day. Jesus please forgive me, a sinner. I do see we have brought much upon ourselves. My parents and theirs before, we were blind everyone must see that by now, right? Should we not try to change things? It’s repentance right but it happens on the outside. Let’s at least try to get them turn away but who am I to say… I fight my own demons everyday but it helps me to see that this world is insane. Maybe I judge too much. There are many things that come with these thoughts, so I usually surrender. Let go and let God as so very sad it is to watch these things happen. I think everything they taught us about history was just them showing us our future. No one has that power here besides maybe the deceiver himself. It is not just ironic that he is called the deceiver either. I pray he forgives me but find it hard to feel worthy.

I know in the end non of this matters but is it not works? is TRUTH BAD FRUIT? It has been for a long time in this world, I pray I do right but stay stuck because to be honest I am slow. lol I know im slow so in my own mind it sounds insane to this world even more anything good coming from me of me. Please forgive me. Lord I pray you show me the way.

 

[Integrity]

We grow up idolizing those with money. We are taught to be like them never knowing we are sheep. They get us to trade everything GOOD for things they tell us we need and they program everything to keep us away from Jesus. The pilgrims have no clue the puritans are devouring us. Should we not cry out? Nothing can ever change for the better unless people accept truth. I struggle if it is my fight but is it ours? Imagine how many “Christians” support the devil without even knowing. I am glad when someone helps me see. I know most are not and it’s shocking to face what we have become but I struggle not saying anything. I know in the end none of these matters, but our souls do and what is inside counts. Yet it says the blind will be forgiven, and it also says to trust in Gods plan. Only God is GOOD, so the people trusting in an evil system that they do not see--- I BELIEVE THEY NEED TO BE WOKEN. But I could be wrong, I struggle with this every day. Jesus please forgive me, a sinner. I do see we have brought much upon ourselves. My parents and theirs before, we were blind everyone must see that by now, right? Should we not try to change things? It’s repentance right but it happens on the outside. Let’s at least try to get them turn away but who am I to say… I fight my own demons everyday but it helps me to see that this world is insane. Maybe I judge too much. There are many things that come with these thoughts, so I usually surrender. Let go and let God as so very sad it is to watch these things happen. I think everything they taught us about history was just them showing us our future. No one has that power here besides maybe the deceiver himself. It is not just ironic that he is called the deceiver either. I pray he forgives me but find it hard to feel worthy.

I know in the end non of this matters but is it not works? is TRUTH BAD FRUIT? It has been for a long time in this world, I pray I do right but stay stuck because to be honest I am slow. lol I know im slow so in my own mind it sounds insane to this world even more anything good coming from me of me. Please forgive me. Lord I pray you show me the way.

I wrote too fast, thinking too much, sorry. I forget to think maybe this is Gods doing. Do I let go and let God or is this my gift, because I have time to look into it all? Or is this the devil?

 

[OMC]

I wrote too fast, thinking too much, sorry. I forget to think maybe this is Gods doing. Do I let go and let God or is this my gift, because I have time to look into it all? Or is this the devil?

Sister, take a breath.
What I hear in your post is not someone trying to rebel against God.
I hear someone who genuinely cares, sees problems in the world, and doesn't want people to be deceived.
The fact that you're asking "Is this God, or is it me?" is actually a healthy sign.
People who are hardened usually aren't asking that question.
You're bringing your concerns to the Lord and you're examining your own heart.

Yes, Christians should care about truth.
Yes, Christians should call people to repentance.
Yes, we should speak when we see deception.
But remember that Jesus never asked you to carry the weight of fixing the whole world.
He asked you to follow Him.
Sometimes we see a real problem and assume God is calling us to solve it.
Other times God is simply showing us that we need to pray, trust Him, and remain faithful where we are.
Not every burden is a calling.

I would ask a simple question: does this lead you closer to Christ, deeper into Scripture, greater humility, greater love, and greater peace in God's sovereignty?
Or does it leave you fearful, angry, exhausted, and feeling responsible for everyone else?
Jesus said: "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." (Matt. 11:28)

Sister, you are not responsible for waking everyone up.
You are responsible for being faithful yourself.
Speak the truth when God gives you opportunity.
Love people.
Pray for them.
Point them to Christ.
Then trust God with the results.
And one more thing: stop apologizing to God for being slow.
Moses thought he wasn't good enough.
Gideon thought he was the wrong man.
Jeremiah thought he was too young.
God has always worked through ordinary, imperfect people.

So don't ask, "Am I worthy?" None of us are.
Ask instead, "Is Christ sufficient?"
The answer to that is always yes.
Rest in Him a little, sister.
The world is not hanging on your shoulders.
It is hanging on His.

 

[Genez]

Sister, take a breath.
What I hear in your post is not someone trying to rebel against God.
I hear someone who genuinely cares, sees problems in the world, and doesn't want people to be deceived.
The fact that you're asking "Is this God, or is it me?" is actually a healthy sign.
People who are hardened usually aren't asking that question.
You're bringing your concerns to the Lord and you're examining your own heart.

Well put.

 

[GWH]

Well, my euphamistic explanation is kinda incongruent for the reality.

Going "goth" is better....then going clean cut....
But it still misses the mark.

Repentance is repentance....a complete changing of your mind about your behavior and attitudes.

And since most people today believe themselves to be right....they may have been wrong in the past, but now? Not even close to being wrong....the chance of anyone repenting is almost zero.

It's what made Nebachadnezzar golden.

Yes, repentance includes changing one's mind, regretting rejecting God, feeling guilty and ashamed of immorality,
and accepting Jesus as Messiah and Lord (Rev. 3:20).