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FSUboy,
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Georgia, serif]Luk 9:23[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] And he said to [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]them[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] all, [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]If any [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]man[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Luk 9:24 [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Luk 9:25 [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Luk 9:26 [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] in his[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] Father's, and of the holy angels.
What's it going to be?
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Following Christ costs everything.
It costs your possessions.
It costs your friends.
Your reputation.
Your dreams.
Your family.
Your life.
It costs your possessions.
It costs your friends.
Your reputation.
Your dreams.
Your family.
Your life.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Georgia, serif]Luk 9:23[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] And he said to [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]them[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] all, [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]If any [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]man[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Luk 9:24 [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Luk 9:25 [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Luk 9:26 [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] in his[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] Father's, and of the holy angels.
What's it going to be?
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[FONT=Georgia, serif]FSUboy,
Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
Deu 30:20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them. [/FONT]
I'm sure you'll use the excuse that this is out of context, I assure you it is not.
The ultimate land that the LORD promised to Abraham and his seed is the heavenly Jerusalem. Abraham looked forward to Christ and even showed faith in Him when he offered his son as a sacrifice, speaking of Christ.
And this blessing will apply to you too, if you abide in Christ with works fitting of repentance.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
Deu 30:20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them. [/FONT]
I'm sure you'll use the excuse that this is out of context, I assure you it is not.
The ultimate land that the LORD promised to Abraham and his seed is the heavenly Jerusalem. Abraham looked forward to Christ and even showed faith in Him when he offered his son as a sacrifice, speaking of Christ.
And this blessing will apply to you too, if you abide in Christ with works fitting of repentance.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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I read my bible btw. The bible warns of teachers who will turn from God, and tell people what they want to hear. God bless. You have no power, or truth.I did NOT read every post in this thread. But I AM A SATANIST and felt the need to defend this beautiful religion for other Satanist's on here that are unable to. There are definatley some major misconceptions about Satanism.
Those 2 people in that interview are NOT Satanist's. Anton Szandor LaVey disowned his daughter Zeena. She ended up hating her father in the years before his death. She and that man are now in The Temple of Set. It is a LITERAL devil worship group that actually believes in the nonsense of magic spells/etc... True Satanism, or LaVeyian Satanism is all about self worship. There is no god. There is no devil. There is only you. Indulgence instead of abstinence. Most sins lead to good things....that sort of thing.
The two in that interview are psuedo-satanists. They are more like fascists. Satanism is the opposite of fascism.
Those 2 people in that interview are NOT Satanist's. Anton Szandor LaVey disowned his daughter Zeena. She ended up hating her father in the years before his death. She and that man are now in The Temple of Set. It is a LITERAL devil worship group that actually believes in the nonsense of magic spells/etc... True Satanism, or LaVeyian Satanism is all about self worship. There is no god. There is no devil. There is only you. Indulgence instead of abstinence. Most sins lead to good things....that sort of thing.
The two in that interview are psuedo-satanists. They are more like fascists. Satanism is the opposite of fascism.
Oh, and a little something about Bob Larson Bob Larson Exposed#
Well, I agree those symbols are Anti Christian, yet people walk round believing it means peace etc.... This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Check out how the White house was built. They mock us in everyday life and most of us don't know it.
Research Illuminati and see for yourself. It stares us right in the face yet we don't see. Well until we wake up and start thinking for ourselves.
Only so much can be passed off as "conspiracy"
Remember Denver airport paintings... that is how comfortable they are now that they will take control. No one would expect such things in an American airport.
Check out how the White house was built. They mock us in everyday life and most of us don't know it.
Research Illuminati and see for yourself. It stares us right in the face yet we don't see. Well until we wake up and start thinking for ourselves.
Only so much can be passed off as "conspiracy"
Remember Denver airport paintings... that is how comfortable they are now that they will take control. No one would expect such things in an American airport.
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Mike,
You should read over every post in here. And I agree, Bob Larson, is one of the biggest and most horrific acts out there claiming to be Christian. There's much more to be said about that, but, not here.
Mike, I do have a question. How can you claim to be a Satanist and not believe in Satan? I think you guys should pick another name. That's like claiming to be a Christian and saying there is no Jesus Christ.
Or worshiping the sun, but, not believing the sun exists.
This group name is as unfathomable as your beliefs. You say you believe that sins lead to good things. How can there be sin if there is no one to sin against? If there is no one to sin against, what keeps me, or anyone else, from doing whatever we want?
Is that how you would want your kids to be raised? Around people that believe they can do anything they want, seeing your daughter walking down the street, believing in their heart that "sin" leads to good? As you daughter is being raped, would she say, "boy this sin leads to so much good." ? Would the rapist believe the same when he's in prision and preparing a poison to kill himself?
Your soul can be required of you at any moment. I'm telling you, believe in Christ with fruit worthy of repentance and you will be saved. If not, you will die in your sins that you say don't exist.
And FSU boy,
If you love God, you will obey his commandments.
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
This is who you are now, even though you won't be able to understand:
2Pe 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
2Pe 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
2Pe 2:16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
2Pe 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
2Pe 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
2Pe 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
If this scares you, then stand on Christ as your righteousness. Believe in Him and not in yourself.
But, I don't think it scares you, and that is why you are lost.
There are 3 big reasons the religion is called Satanism.
1. It really is practically the exact opposite doctrine of christianity
2. It's a powerful word that scares many people away. We are not interested in building numbers. We are misanthropes. The word "Satan" serves as a way to weed out some of the people that wouldnt get it and that would just cause us problems.
3. Most importantly, it's symbolic for a liberating figure. We do not believe in a literal being known as Satan. We think of the story as folklore but realize the important qualities of it. We see God as the evil one. Satan represents the power that stood up to the evil fascist leader. Call it whatever you want. You could call it Bonnie and Clyde if you wanted to. It's poetic. It's romantic. It's symbolic for the guy that stood up for what he believed in, even though it was unpopular. A true leader. We find these qualities to be positive, as all of you probably would if it had a different name. What's wrong with standing up for what you believe in?
Unfathomable? Quite the contrary. It's an elitist group. It's a bit selfish. It's about loving those who have earned your love and not wasting love on ingrates. It appeals to many artists and intellectuals. They are everywhere. Doctors, lawyers, students, cops, actors, hollywood celebrities. Many do not talk about it as they fear social stigma.
Most importantly it's about believing in yourself and doing whatever makes you happy (as long as it's not hurting anyone that does not wish to be hurt) We are completely intolerant to intolerance. Everything is ok with us. Gay marriage, for example, is perfectly fine if that is what you wish for yourself. It's about being responsible for your own actions. There is no god or devil to hide behind. If we do something wrong, we must go through the consequences. It's just about being happy and doing what you want to do and not worrying about a hell.
"How can there be sin if there is no one to sin against" you ask. Well, your probably looking at that word "sin" too literally. I think of it as morals and ethics. So, scratch that word sin, if it helps you to understand.
Which brings up your next question, and one I am repulsed by if I do say so....
"If there is no one to sin against, what keeps me, or anyone else, from doing whatever we want?"
This is a very sick statement, and I've heard other religious folk say it too...as if "god" is the only thing keeping you from murdering one another or doing all sorts of terrible things. You want to kill and rape people? I don't want to at all.... It has nothing to do with religion or God. First of all, it's disgusting! I hate death. Satanists cherish LIFE not death. We dont believe in an afterlife so we want to make the most of our time here on earth. We want to live good lives.
And if my morals arent a good enough answers to that awful question that indicated we all secretely deep down want to commit horrible crimes, then how about just the fact that we live in a society? With rules and standards. We dont want to get murdered or raped, so why would we want to do that to someone else? This is a society. We are supposed to be civilized. And why would we want to go to jail?
But really, I can't even go into the logic of the question. I'm still too sickened by the ethics involved....it's really a problem if anyone actually can say that they would murder all sorts of people if it wasnt for God's law condemning it...not cool.
I don't want children, but if I ever had them, yes I would certainly raise them Satanist. I think it's a healthy lifestyle and a positive outlook on life.
"Your soul can be required of you at any moment. I'm telling you, believe in Christ with fruit worthy of repentance and you will be saved. If not, you will die in your sins that you say don't exist."
You end your statement with a petty threat of hell, trying to appeal to my fears, since there is no logical basis for your claims. You do this simply because you can't understand that other religions exist out there....this is just too strange to understand. You wouldnt attack a Muslim or Jew like that?
I'm tired of all the fear and scares that come when talking about Satanism. It's just another religion with different morals. We arent criminals. We dont rob stores. We are not in gangs. If anything, I'd wager a higher I.Q. on many Satanists compared to other mainstream religions. They tend to be more down to earth and understanding. More productive too. We will go out there and get what we seek. We won't pray for it and hope it comes to us.
Hope this helps!
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You can only justify yourself for so long, Mike. In the end, you are are going to need someone to justify you, in place of yourself.
Don't say that you haven't been warned. I want you to remember, I'm the one that told you the way to righteousness.
What is it to gain the whole world, but, to lose your own soul?
Don't say that you haven't been warned. I want you to remember, I'm the one that told you the way to righteousness.
What is it to gain the whole world, but, to lose your own soul?