I can vouch for the validity of the email responses below because I have personally conducted my own email campaign over the past twelve months I have had exchanges with well over a 100 pastors and their bottom line answer, without exception, is the same.
The Bible is clear that willful presumptuous sun must stop before mercy is granted by God. Yet the church system is teaching that forgiveness is granted first.
Pro 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Jer 26:13 Therefore now amend your ways and your doings, and obey the voice of the LORD your God; and the LORD will repent him of the evil that he hath pronounced against you.
Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
2Co 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
Jas 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
Jas 4:9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
Jas 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
State of Emergency in the Churches
The Habitation of Demons and every foul spirit! (Rev18:2) That is what the Modern Day church has become. United wholly with the corrupted world system and drunk with the wine of fornications and luxury. False Prophets control the Platforms and NO ONE preaching True Repentance and Faith can Buy or sell among them. Worst of all, everything APPEARS to be fine and dandy! Like the Churches in Revelation, they are completely unaware what the Spirit is saying to them about their conduct. NOTHING can touch them! They are impervious to correction and scornful of rebuke.
What we have done is use their own tactics against them to expose what’s behind this colossal mess and moral decay. By Stealth we have BROKEN through their Code and discovered what they are REALLY Preaching and teaching. In our Videos sate of emergency standingthegap - Google Search, we examine this crisis in detail and show the vivid reality of how far they have descended into the depths of Satan. We solicited their comments anonymously from a cross section of present day churches. They are all ‘Legitmate’ remarks made by church leaders from across the United States. Unless you hold to the Lie they are preaching, this should serve as a Wake up Call to the church that its LONG PAST time for Sackcloth and ashes. May God help you see how far GONE the system has become.
First Question asked:
Does a Child Molester have to STOP molesting children to Receive Christ?
Hi Dan,
You asked: “If a person is a child molester does he have to stop molesting children in order to receive Jesus?”
My answer: Absolutely not. A person does not need to stop anything, start anything, or do anything at all to have God or Jesus in their life. It is just the opposite. Rather than stopping molesting in order to receive Jesus, it is receiving Jesus in order to stop molesting.
I would go even further: God is already in that person’s life, no matter who they are or what they have done.. The Spirit is already there. Jesus is already at work. What is needed is spiritual growth to the point where our harmful practices can be overcome and healed.
Letting Jesus into our lives begins to change us from the inside out. As we surrender ourselves to God, the Spirit gives all of us, including the molester strength and healing. This is helped by spiritual practices, therapy, Christian community, good teaching, and some healthy relationship with adults who know the problem. Our salvation is not dependent on behaving a certain way. We are saved not because of what we do but because God loves us and would not do anything else but save us.
Of course God wants us to stop hurting children or anyone, but that is not a prerequisite for being loved by God or being saved. Every child molester is loved and treasured by God. Just like a good mother or father treasures their children no matter what kind of trouble they get into. They still love them – and they want to help them get out of trouble. Same with God. Hey, Dan, keep them coming. What are you thinking?
Paul
Thanks for your email. Child molestation is a sexual sin like others and a person can be a Christian and still sin in this way. But God demands that we work to rid our lives of sin, if this is your struggle let’s talk so we can get you some help to work through this struggle and so God can deliver you. Praying for you,
Pastor
Dan,
Jesus came to save the lost. He will accept anyone, anytime (Rev. 3:20) However, once a person receives
the Holy Spirit, he is sealed and will be a slave to righteousness.(Eph.1:13; 2 Cor. 5:17) This does not
mean that he/she will be perfect, but it does mean that the new person will be enlightened and you will
(or should) have a harder time with perpetual sin. Child molestation is a very serious offense in civil
law and biblically (Matt 18:5-7). If someone is a "Christian" and still finding themselves wanting to
molest children or slipping with this sin, they should expose it to a respected church leader and to the
authorities. God will still love them, but there are consequences. Hope this helps,
Mark D'Ambrosio (asst. Pastor)
To answer your question...
I think you can ask Jesus into your heart while still engaging in behavior that does not honor the love of Christ. By becoming a Christian and following in the Way of Christ (loving God, loving neighbor, loving self -- allowing the fruits of the spirit to live within you -- love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control), you will find it increasingly difficult to behave in ways
that harm yourself and others. I hope this helps.
Preston Hollow Presbyterian Church
Response: Of course God will accept anyone, but on HIS TERMS, not yours! The criterion is Repentance PROVEN By Deeds. Flee His Wrath and Plead for Mercy! (Acts2:37-40) NO ONE who comes to God in this manner, Broken and contrite, through godly sorrow and a zealousness to clear themselves of all wrong doing is going to ‘Still’ want to Molest Children! You Don’t come out of this kind of Sin by Degree. You FORSAKE it or LOSE your soul!
In regard to your question, molestation is a serious problem. It may also include addictive behavior of some kind. You question could also be asked, "Do we have to stop sinning to be loved by God?" I think not. I am always going to be sinning. However, if a person knowingly is harming others in this manner, there are serious considers where society must step in.
Grace, Tom
Dan, There is nothing that a person can do to make God stop loving them. They have always have been and always will be a beloved child of God. However, receiving Jesus and following the Way of Christ means that we behave as Christ would behave. Christ would not molest a child, therefore, followers of Christ should not molest children. From your e-mail I have no way of knowing if you or the person you are concerned about are in the Boise area. We have excellent counseling opportunities. Look for help; even if the person has tried counseling in the past, try again. Be fully assured that God will never desert or turn God's back on any person struggling with an addiction. But living with an addiction is not what God had planned for this person's life. Our prayer team will hold you/your friend in prayer this week.
Grace, Pastor Sandi
Response: God fully expects you to STOP SINNING! “Go and sin no more! Lest a worse thing come upon you!” Jn5:14. That’s what Repentance is for. TO CLEAR you of the wrong doing, Purge your conscience of the sin, Purify the heart and make it FIT for the Holy Spirit to indwell. He who sins is of the devil! So if you are ‘always’ going to go on sinning, WHO is your father? (Jh8:44) Jesus Loved the Rich young man too, (Mk10:21) But he went away unapproved because he refused to yield his heart. Sin is NOT an Addiction! It MUST be Repented of to be forgiven, and that includes an abandonment of the Vile Behavior.
The whole thing isn't about sin as much as it is about redemption, but it also isn't a license to continue in the life style that we lived before Christ (Romans 6). By that I mean to continue with no repentance and no attempt to turn from the things from which we have been redeemed.
So the answer is yes, a child molester can be forgiven without doing anything, but that same one, who enters into God's redemption will in turn live under the new paradigm of God's kingdom.
Does that mean that he will not struggle with those things of which we talk? No, he will. But in Christ we are new creations and in humility we seek to walk in righteousness.
Has this made sense to you?
Peace, Kelley
Dear Whoever you are, No, but if a person really does accept Jesus and starts following Jesus, he/she will not continue indefinitely to molest children, rob banks, take crack cocaine, look at pornography, drink alcohol to excess, commit adultery, lie, etc. I John 4.9 says that whosoever is born of God does not CONTINUE in sin. However, that said, we must also remember that we are to repent of sin as we receive the gift of salvation through Christ (Mk. 1.15) I think a sinner, just as I am and you are, must start to make a break with our sinful past and trust God to help us stop all those egregious things we did before we started to be Jesus' faithful followers. Some sins are a lot harder to break than others, just like some addictions are never fully healed, but with God's help we can get the day-to-day victory! Paul said that "God's strength is perfected in weakness so that when I am weak, then I am strong." I hope this helps. Pastor Dan,
No, you don't have to stop molesting children to receive Christ. You need the one who can heal and transform your life to deal with those types of issues. Once someone has received Christ they are responsible to respond in obedience to Christ even when there urges are to do things that are wrong. The urges are not the sin, the thinking and response to the urge is where the critical battle is fought.
In Christ, David Rice
Dan,
No, a person does not have to stop any sin in order to receive Jesus. If we had to be perfect, He would receive no one. The Bible says, "Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Call on Him, and you will be saved.
The Bible is clear that willful presumptuous sun must stop before mercy is granted by God. Yet the church system is teaching that forgiveness is granted first.
Pro 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Jer 26:13 Therefore now amend your ways and your doings, and obey the voice of the LORD your God; and the LORD will repent him of the evil that he hath pronounced against you.
Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
2Co 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
Jas 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
Jas 4:9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
Jas 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
State of Emergency in the Churches
The Habitation of Demons and every foul spirit! (Rev18:2) That is what the Modern Day church has become. United wholly with the corrupted world system and drunk with the wine of fornications and luxury. False Prophets control the Platforms and NO ONE preaching True Repentance and Faith can Buy or sell among them. Worst of all, everything APPEARS to be fine and dandy! Like the Churches in Revelation, they are completely unaware what the Spirit is saying to them about their conduct. NOTHING can touch them! They are impervious to correction and scornful of rebuke.
What we have done is use their own tactics against them to expose what’s behind this colossal mess and moral decay. By Stealth we have BROKEN through their Code and discovered what they are REALLY Preaching and teaching. In our Videos sate of emergency standingthegap - Google Search, we examine this crisis in detail and show the vivid reality of how far they have descended into the depths of Satan. We solicited their comments anonymously from a cross section of present day churches. They are all ‘Legitmate’ remarks made by church leaders from across the United States. Unless you hold to the Lie they are preaching, this should serve as a Wake up Call to the church that its LONG PAST time for Sackcloth and ashes. May God help you see how far GONE the system has become.
First Question asked:
Does a Child Molester have to STOP molesting children to Receive Christ?
Hi Dan,
You asked: “If a person is a child molester does he have to stop molesting children in order to receive Jesus?”
My answer: Absolutely not. A person does not need to stop anything, start anything, or do anything at all to have God or Jesus in their life. It is just the opposite. Rather than stopping molesting in order to receive Jesus, it is receiving Jesus in order to stop molesting.
I would go even further: God is already in that person’s life, no matter who they are or what they have done.. The Spirit is already there. Jesus is already at work. What is needed is spiritual growth to the point where our harmful practices can be overcome and healed.
Letting Jesus into our lives begins to change us from the inside out. As we surrender ourselves to God, the Spirit gives all of us, including the molester strength and healing. This is helped by spiritual practices, therapy, Christian community, good teaching, and some healthy relationship with adults who know the problem. Our salvation is not dependent on behaving a certain way. We are saved not because of what we do but because God loves us and would not do anything else but save us.
Of course God wants us to stop hurting children or anyone, but that is not a prerequisite for being loved by God or being saved. Every child molester is loved and treasured by God. Just like a good mother or father treasures their children no matter what kind of trouble they get into. They still love them – and they want to help them get out of trouble. Same with God. Hey, Dan, keep them coming. What are you thinking?
Paul
Thanks for your email. Child molestation is a sexual sin like others and a person can be a Christian and still sin in this way. But God demands that we work to rid our lives of sin, if this is your struggle let’s talk so we can get you some help to work through this struggle and so God can deliver you. Praying for you,
Pastor
Response:
These first two comments are extreme. It’s difficult to believe ANYONE would say such a thing, especially a supposed man of God. The most heinous of sins and they STILL can’t say you must Repent and Forsake it. Only that God will take you ‘in process’ and change you later! Think about it. You can come to the Lord ‘raping babies!!’ What kind of Salvation is this? NONE at all! But it’s what these preachers are peddling.
God help them wake up before it’s too late.
These first two comments are extreme. It’s difficult to believe ANYONE would say such a thing, especially a supposed man of God. The most heinous of sins and they STILL can’t say you must Repent and Forsake it. Only that God will take you ‘in process’ and change you later! Think about it. You can come to the Lord ‘raping babies!!’ What kind of Salvation is this? NONE at all! But it’s what these preachers are peddling.
God help them wake up before it’s too late.
Dan,
Jesus came to save the lost. He will accept anyone, anytime (Rev. 3:20) However, once a person receives
the Holy Spirit, he is sealed and will be a slave to righteousness.(Eph.1:13; 2 Cor. 5:17) This does not
mean that he/she will be perfect, but it does mean that the new person will be enlightened and you will
(or should) have a harder time with perpetual sin. Child molestation is a very serious offense in civil
law and biblically (Matt 18:5-7). If someone is a "Christian" and still finding themselves wanting to
molest children or slipping with this sin, they should expose it to a respected church leader and to the
authorities. God will still love them, but there are consequences. Hope this helps,
Mark D'Ambrosio (asst. Pastor)
To answer your question...
I think you can ask Jesus into your heart while still engaging in behavior that does not honor the love of Christ. By becoming a Christian and following in the Way of Christ (loving God, loving neighbor, loving self -- allowing the fruits of the spirit to live within you -- love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control), you will find it increasingly difficult to behave in ways
that harm yourself and others. I hope this helps.
Preston Hollow Presbyterian Church
Response: Of course God will accept anyone, but on HIS TERMS, not yours! The criterion is Repentance PROVEN By Deeds. Flee His Wrath and Plead for Mercy! (Acts2:37-40) NO ONE who comes to God in this manner, Broken and contrite, through godly sorrow and a zealousness to clear themselves of all wrong doing is going to ‘Still’ want to Molest Children! You Don’t come out of this kind of Sin by Degree. You FORSAKE it or LOSE your soul!
In regard to your question, molestation is a serious problem. It may also include addictive behavior of some kind. You question could also be asked, "Do we have to stop sinning to be loved by God?" I think not. I am always going to be sinning. However, if a person knowingly is harming others in this manner, there are serious considers where society must step in.
Grace, Tom
Dan, There is nothing that a person can do to make God stop loving them. They have always have been and always will be a beloved child of God. However, receiving Jesus and following the Way of Christ means that we behave as Christ would behave. Christ would not molest a child, therefore, followers of Christ should not molest children. From your e-mail I have no way of knowing if you or the person you are concerned about are in the Boise area. We have excellent counseling opportunities. Look for help; even if the person has tried counseling in the past, try again. Be fully assured that God will never desert or turn God's back on any person struggling with an addiction. But living with an addiction is not what God had planned for this person's life. Our prayer team will hold you/your friend in prayer this week.
Grace, Pastor Sandi
Response: God fully expects you to STOP SINNING! “Go and sin no more! Lest a worse thing come upon you!” Jn5:14. That’s what Repentance is for. TO CLEAR you of the wrong doing, Purge your conscience of the sin, Purify the heart and make it FIT for the Holy Spirit to indwell. He who sins is of the devil! So if you are ‘always’ going to go on sinning, WHO is your father? (Jh8:44) Jesus Loved the Rich young man too, (Mk10:21) But he went away unapproved because he refused to yield his heart. Sin is NOT an Addiction! It MUST be Repented of to be forgiven, and that includes an abandonment of the Vile Behavior.
The whole thing isn't about sin as much as it is about redemption, but it also isn't a license to continue in the life style that we lived before Christ (Romans 6). By that I mean to continue with no repentance and no attempt to turn from the things from which we have been redeemed.
So the answer is yes, a child molester can be forgiven without doing anything, but that same one, who enters into God's redemption will in turn live under the new paradigm of God's kingdom.
Does that mean that he will not struggle with those things of which we talk? No, he will. But in Christ we are new creations and in humility we seek to walk in righteousness.
Has this made sense to you?
Peace, Kelley
Response: WHERE in Scripture was ANYONE forgiven of sin WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING? Show me! This pastor is nuts. You see how the Voidance of Preaching Repentance leads to a Total Corruption of the Gospel? To these people the Gospel is merely God winking at our iniquities and forgiving us in advance!
It’s Hogwash from start to finish.
It’s Hogwash from start to finish.
Dear Whoever you are, No, but if a person really does accept Jesus and starts following Jesus, he/she will not continue indefinitely to molest children, rob banks, take crack cocaine, look at pornography, drink alcohol to excess, commit adultery, lie, etc. I John 4.9 says that whosoever is born of God does not CONTINUE in sin. However, that said, we must also remember that we are to repent of sin as we receive the gift of salvation through Christ (Mk. 1.15) I think a sinner, just as I am and you are, must start to make a break with our sinful past and trust God to help us stop all those egregious things we did before we started to be Jesus' faithful followers. Some sins are a lot harder to break than others, just like some addictions are never fully healed, but with God's help we can get the day-to-day victory! Paul said that "God's strength is perfected in weakness so that when I am weak, then I am strong." I hope this helps. Pastor Dan,
No, you don't have to stop molesting children to receive Christ. You need the one who can heal and transform your life to deal with those types of issues. Once someone has received Christ they are responsible to respond in obedience to Christ even when there urges are to do things that are wrong. The urges are not the sin, the thinking and response to the urge is where the critical battle is fought.
In Christ, David Rice
Response: Here the sin Continues in Both Directions. One guy says you won’t go on sinning indefinitely, the other says you DON’T have to Stop molesting children. Can you Imagine the Apostle Paul saying something like this? But these guys preach it as truth! They sugar coat it with talk about ‘healing’, ‘transformation’, ‘starting to make a break’…but its all Code for: ‘The Sin NEVER STOPS!’ If you Don’t have to Stop to Receive Christ, then WHEN will you? Ask the Scorned wife if her unfaithful husband has to Stop his adulterous affair when he comes to her seeking Mercy. It’s no Different with God.
Dan,
No, a person does not have to stop any sin in order to receive Jesus. If we had to be perfect, He would receive no one. The Bible says, "Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Call on Him, and you will be saved.
Response:
’Any sin!’ WHERE Does it say such a thing in the Bible? Again, he raises the cop-out remark, ‘If we had to be perfect!’ In CODE this means he knows NOTHING about real Repentance and faith. Even the passage he sited is Way off the mark. ‘Call on Him and be saved’ Yes, Call on Him out of a broken and contrite heart, with earnest zeal, pleading for Mercy! Not repeat after me and go your merry way.
’Any sin!’ WHERE Does it say such a thing in the Bible? Again, he raises the cop-out remark, ‘If we had to be perfect!’ In CODE this means he knows NOTHING about real Repentance and faith. Even the passage he sited is Way off the mark. ‘Call on Him and be saved’ Yes, Call on Him out of a broken and contrite heart, with earnest zeal, pleading for Mercy! Not repeat after me and go your merry way.