what church can i go to?

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Livi94

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loveme1 said:
I'm saying the catholic church is not of Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.

I'm a sinner that accepted Yahshua the Messiah into my heart to be reconciled with Yahvah God.

It is built on pagan rituals and traditions it seeks to remove Yahvah God's name from his people.

Yes, there are many false religions having people believe it is okay to continue in Abomination....

The catholic religion is leading people away not to the truth.

There is a little truth mixed in with paganism catholic religion to pose as the " truth"

The only light in those churches is the ones hanging from the ceiling!!
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Well I'ld have to disagree. I see light the Catholics I know. <3 I'ld have to say that for HUNDREDS OF YEARS, the Catholic Church of course has a ton of history, the Church has been bringing people to Christ. It is certainly not leading anyone away from our Lord Jesus Christ (at least where I've lived my whole life)
 
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Well I'ld have to disagree. I see light the Catholics I know. <3 I'ld have to say that for HUNDREDS OF YEARS, the Catholic Church of course has a ton of history but it is certainly not leading anyone away from our Lord Jesus Christ
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You are with in your right to disagree, but it does not change the truth.

Time will reveal all things.

It does not lead them to Yahshua the Messiah, for he is of his Father Yahvah God.

They come as one truth.

There is one way to the Father Yahvah God and that is through his son Yahshua the Messiah.
 
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Jesus is God and only He knows who really loves and believes despite the labels that for some reason so many people are hooked on. Leave the judging to Him, kay? ;)
All we can do is pray.
 
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Jesus is God and only He knows who really loves and believes despite the labels that for some reason so many people are hooked on. Leave the judging to Him, kay? ;)
All we can do is pray.
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Actually much is found in the Bible for those that seek the truth.

It is not by my judgement i say these things, but by that I have received to share by he that does judge us.

If the bible tells us this:


4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Quite clear that this is abominable to Yahvah God.

This is one example of many more that is found in the Bible that Yahvah God detests... would the church of Yahvah God go against him?

Surely the church seeks to please Yahvah God on his terms not their own......
 
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wait bow? bow to what? I only "bow" to Jesus our Lord.
 
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Livi94 said:
wait bow? bow to what? I only "bow" to Jesus our Lord.
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I do not accuse you of doing anything.

I will remind you what is written.








Warning do not do, for an example only.
 
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this signifies reverence and honor of Mary, the Blessed Mother of God. He faces a statue that simply represents her holiness.
 
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Livi94 said:
this signifies reverence and honor of Mary, the Blessed Mother of God
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I have given you Biblical proof of against this, now you show me the verse that allows this?

What you think it signifies and what it actually does signify is quite the opposite.
 
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Unfortunately it is bowing to an idol. The bible says to have no other God, but God!
 
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"againt this"? It's wrong to bow to and worship a graven image as God such as the Golden Calf... I dont see why you are saying it is wring to bow at Mary's statue to show respect for her. I don't have to show you proof of anything. I state what is on my mind and nothing more. If you are so curious as to the bowing practices that go on in the Catholic Church, reasearch it. Don't rely on one source and even do some personal interviews with people in the Catholic Church and then get back to me about what you think after that.
 
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Jewliah said:
Unfortunately it is bowing to an idol. The bible says to have no other God, but God!
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God is God and there is no other. Catholics did not just invent a God and start bowing to a statue claiming that it is physically the Lord. The Church only believes and worships one God in the name of the Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit.
 
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Livi94 said:
"againt this"? It's wrong to bow to and worship a graven image as God such as the Golden Calf... I dont see why you are saying it is wring to bow at Mary's statue to show respect for her. I don't have to show you proof of anything. I state what is on my mind and nothing more. If you are so curious as to the bowing practices that go on in the Catholic Church, reasearch it. Don't rely on one source and even do some personal interviews with people in the Catholic Church and then get back to me about what you think after that.
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I will rely on my Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah for source of truth.

I will not interview anyone on the matter, because nothing they say will change how I feel, I 'm for Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.


Your answer concludes where you stand, I offer you Biblical scripture and you tell me to go ask the people what it means...... and get back to you.


I will not listen to the deceived people attempt to justify their behaviour.....

If that is how you feel then so be it.

May you seek the truth from where it is found.
 
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God is the truth <3
 
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Livi94 said:
God is the truth <3
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Yes, he is and that is why I say let no man come between you and your Yahvah God.


If 100,000 men do something against Yahvah God, then be the one that gives Glory to the truth.

Concern yourself not with fitting in or accepting others, If being for Yahvah God puts you against others, then so be it.
 
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Livi94 said:
this signifies reverence and honor of Mary, the Blessed Mother of God. He faces a statue that simply represents her holiness.
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This is the problem, It is called pointing a blind eye to truth and excusing sin.

1. mary is not Holy, Only God is.
2. It was a "graven image of her
3. They are all bowing down to this image of her
4. Thus they are breaking the commandment .

We can't excuse sin. It will only lead us to more sin.
 
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right. be carefull what you justify to yourself.
 
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Jewliah said:
Unfortunately it is bowing to an idol. The bible says to have no other God, but God!
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Its not an idol. He isn't worshipping or offering sacrifice to it. He kneels out of respect for the mother of God and gives thanks to God for her example of Christian humility. Remember that the use of images in worship was commanded by God. It is when you worship the image instead of God that it becomes an idol. But Catholics don't do that.

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Its not an idol. He isn't worshipping or offering sacrifice to it. He kneels out of respect for the mother of God and gives thanks to God for her example of Christian humility. Remember that the use of images in worship was commanded by God. It is when you worship the image instead of God that it becomes an idol. But Catholics don't do that.

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Stop making excuses, that is a statue of the pagan godess, the mother of their god..
 
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Stop making excuses, that is a statue of the pagan godess, the mother of their god..
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No, I'm pointing out the Truth. It's not an idol. No matter how many times you insist on it, that will not change the truth. The simple truth is this, there is no prohibition in Scripture for the use of images in worship. In fact the opposite is true, God commanded the manufacture of images for use in His temple and even on the Ark of the Covenant.

The issue of idols only comes into play when people worship the image as a god instead using them to honour the one true God. And Catholics don't do the former, we do the latter.
 
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loveme1 said:
Stop making excuses, that is a statue of the pagan godess, the mother of their god..
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Mary was the mother of Christ, correct? Is not Christ our God? Why is it weird that they appreciate her contributions to Christ's life and the church as a whole?
 
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