Sabbath made for Man

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16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Is this what you meant?
 
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The 7th day was a a foreshadow of entering Christ.

Can you give scripture reference please?
Do you believe that one who worships on a sunday is deserving of hell?

Jesus observed the sabbath BY BEING IN THE GRAVE. The sabbath was and is the only sign given to an evil an adulterous generation.
 

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Do you believe that one who worships on a sunday is deserving of hell?

Jesus observed the sabbath BY BEING IN THE GRAVE. The sabbath was and is the only sign given to an evil an adulterous generation.

What I believe is irrelevant, it is by Yahvah God's judgement that people go to hell, not mine.

Yahshua the Messiah is the only way to be pardoned.

I received a loving obedience in my heart, and find it astounding how many will find scripture to support their disobedience, rather than do what Yahvah God says pleases him.


Yahshua the Messiah is clear and says that he who does the will of my Father.


I have posted much scripture and I will continue in my walk sharing the truth I received.

Yahshua the Messiah is our New covenant many believe he "nailed the 10 Commandments to the cross" but it was the Law of Moses which was temporary until he come......


So I can only share what I received through accepting Yahshua the Messiah into my heart and dying to self.


If it be contrary then so be it.

GLory to Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.
 

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13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
We must keep it in context and it is clear that paul is trying to move people from the old covenant to the new covenant...

Nothing there says to me do not keep the Sabbath, and if it did actually say that, I would not follow a man but continue to obey my Yahvah God.
 

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...Paul's instructions to the churches were the commandments of the Lord.
These commandments were all straight from what you call the "OT". Paul did not receive any "new" commandments or, God forbid, let alone "did away" with any "old". There is but one law of God. Paul often affirmed that. Paul kept the sabbath, he kept also all the feast days and everything that pertained to the temple service as long as the temple stood. Yes, Paul as a jew kept "the whole law". Do a study on Paul's life and find out.
 
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What I believe is irrelevant, it is by Yahvah God's judgement that people go to hell, not mine.

Yahshua the Messiah is the only way to be pardoned.

I received a loving obedience in my heart, and find it astounding how many will find scripture to support their disobedience, rather than do what Yahvah God says pleases him.


Yahshua the Messiah is clear and says that he who does the will of my Father.


I have posted much scripture and I will continue in my walk sharing the truth I received.

Yahshua the Messiah is our New covenant many believe he "nailed the 10 Commandments to the cross" but it was the Law of Moses which was temporary until he come......


So I can only share what I received through accepting Yahshua the Messiah into my heart and dying to self.


If it be contrary then so be it.

GLory to Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.


Out of the word you recieved from YHWH Elohim and Yahshua the messiah, could you please state yes or no? You who have the word, can you not judge all things having received it?
 

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Out of the word you recieved from YHWH Elohim and Yahshua the messiah, could you please state yes or no? You who have the word, can you not judge all things having received it?





You asked me this question, you said "Do you believe"

Do you believe that one who worships on a sunday is deserving of hell?
My desire is that all Repent and ask for forgiveness.

Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah deserve nothing less than we all Repent and give Glory to them.

Like i said, it is by Yahvah God's judgement that people go to hell.

He is Merciful and Loving and his Gracious gift of Salvation through Yahshua the Messiah will not be limited by anything I say, no more than I can truly express it with words...

He is long suffering for us and I knowing what pleases him, feel a burning love to strive to please him for my Salvation..

Not to receive Salvation, since nothing I could offer would of been "enough" to cover my sin.

Yahshua the Messiah is the only way to be forgiven by Yahvah God.
 

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John 3

16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Matthew 7

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Matthew 5

17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
 
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You asked me this question, you said "Do you believe"



My desire is that all Repent and ask for forgiveness.

Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah deserve nothing less than we all Repent and give Glory to them.

Like i said, it is by Yahvah God's judgement that people go to hell.

He is Merciful and Loving and his Gracious gift of Salvation through Yahshua the Messiah will not be limited by anything I say, no more than I can truly express it with words...

He is long suffering for us and I knowing what pleases him, feel a burning love to strive to please him for my Salvation..

Not to receive Salvation, since nothing I could offer would of been "enough" to cover my sin.

Yahshua the Messiah is the only way to be forgiven by Yahvah God.

Again without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins. When that evening comes when even we will not be able to work any longer. He will meet us all there. We are to keep that day holy as all who meet with Him there are Holy. Our sins are buried in death and true remission, some now in their minds but all truly in death. Blessed is all who die in the Lord as He is the One and only Lord of the Sabbath.
 
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Again without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins. When that evening comes when even we will not be able to work any longer. He will meet us all there. We are to keep that day holy as all who meet with Him there are Holy. Our sins are buried in death and true remission, some now in their minds but all truly in death. He is the One and only Lord of the Sabbath.

13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

21 And having an high priest over the house of God;

22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised)

24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?


30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

If you feel like that, then least do not be the one teaching others to break a Commandment with misinterpretation teachings.
 

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Matthew 22:36-40
King James Version (KJV)
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Previous post I shown how Yahshua the Messiah summarizes the whole 10 Commandments with 2.

He knew the fruit of the New Covenant was love.

It is the Love shown to us by Yahvah God sacrificing his son Yahshua the Messiah that blossoms a loving obedient to the 10 Commandments.

Grace abounds, but we strive to be obedient because we received Salvation.

It is not to receive, but because we Received the Salvation by Grace.
 

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Why does the Bible describe the saints as those that keep the Commandments of Yahvah God and Faith in Yahshua the Messiah?

Revelation 14

12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith
of Jesus.


Why does the dragon go to make with those that:

17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

What are the Commandments of Yahvah God?

That which was written in stone with his own finger?

Exodus 20
 
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If you feel like that, then least do not be the one teaching others to break a Commandment with misinterpretation teachings.
Galatians 5:14

4 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Do you believe this to be an accurate statement or a misinterpretation of scripture? If you do believe this however, how would you fit your doctrine of the sabbath meaning Saturday in with this one word of "LOVE"?
 

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I noticed this translation it may be easier for some to understand than KJV the word Iniquity, may be a stumbling block.

New living translation Matthew 7

21“Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ 23But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’
KJV Matthew 7

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 

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Galatians 5:14

4 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Do you believe this to be an accurate statement or a misinterpretation of scripture? If you do believe this however, how would you fit your doctrine of the sabbath meaning Saturday in with this one word of "LOVE"?
Depends, do we Remember what Yahshua the Messiah said:
36Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Why do use another verse to cancel this out?

Because your verse re-enforces part of this verse, yet you seek to discredit this verse with your verse, where to myself it re-enforces it.

I will trust Yahshua the Messiah and use that verse to re-enforce his second part of the verse.
 
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Depends, do we Remember what Yahshua the Messiah said:



Why do use another verse to cancel this out?

Because your verse re-enforces part of this verse, yet you seek to discredit this verse with your verse, where to myself it re-enforces it.

I will trust Yahshua the Messiah and use that verse to re-enforce his second part of the verse.

1 John 4:17-21


17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

19 We love him, because he first loved us.

20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
 

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1 John 4:17-21


17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

19 We love him, because he first loved us.

20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

So the last line 21 actually re-enforces what Yahshua the Messiah said.

Love Yahvah God , Love thy neighbour.


It may be you tried to use it against, but it actually goes for the teaching of Yahshua the Messiah.

You see I never said not to love thy neighbour, I shown you what Yahshua the Messiah taught, and that it is only supported by scripture.
 
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So the last line 21 actually re-enforces what Yahshua the Messiah said.

Love Yahvah God , Love thy neighbour.


It may be you tried to use it against, but it actually goes for the teaching of Yahshua the Messiah.

You see I never said not to love thy neighbour, I shown you what Yahshua the Messiah taught, and that it is only supported by scripture.
Do you love your neighbor? The one who believes it good to go to church on Sunday as yourself?
 

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Do you love your neighbor? The one who believes it good to go to church on Sunday as yourself?




You see nothing I have said teaches hate or condemnation....

I will share what I received by the Holy Spirit.




If i did not have love inside me then I would not be called to share truth with others.

Truth is Love.


Glory to Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.
 

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Mark 2:27-28
(27) And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
(28) Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

The sabbath was made for man for our benefit, God made the sabbath to be a blessing to us.

Deuteronomy 6:24-25
(24) And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.
(25) And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.
Romans 7:12
(12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.


Yeshua, Jesus, was called on healing on the Sabbath. Traditions of man had crept into the interpretation of the spirit of truth about what the Sabbath is. The Sabbath is a day set aside by commandment from our Maker to spend with our Maker in peace and rest from our daily labor, however there is NO DAY set aside from doing good. Thus Yeshua teaches one may do good on the Sabbath when some necessary task should arise. To do good because one loves YHWH always glorifies YHWH. Man being LORD OF THE SABBATH only extends to this teaching, not to change the commandment of YHWH. If you believe otherwise, I am afraid you have been swept up by the traditions of man being taught as commandment from Yeshua, and this is simply not the case. The Sabbath was made for man to enjoy being with our Lord and at peace with Him, amen.