Sabbath made for Man

[Laodicea]

Both passages use the same word "commandments". There's nothing that shows both passages are referencing the same commandments if that's what you are suggesting. If you read further Jesus expresses he has commandments for us to keep, just like Jesus had commandments from His Father to keep.

Jhn 15:10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.

If you read further we actually learn that Jesus' commands that He gives us were given to the prophets and the apostles to deliver to the church...

1Cr 14:37 If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord.

Paul's instructions to the churches were the commandments of the Lord.

Your reference of the word "commandments" between the OT and NT are speaking of different commandments unless you believe that OT believers adhered to Paul's writings and instructions to the NT church, which I'm sure you don't.

Jesus is the I AM and the I AM is the one who gave the Law on Mt Sinai, so the 10 commandments are the commandments of Jesus.
John 8:58
(58) Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Exodus 3:14
(14) And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

 

[Spiritual_Plague]

The 7th day was a a foreshadow of entering Christ.

Can you give scripture reference please?

The quote you mentioned earlier from Colossians 2:17 is part of the concept.

Thoroughly read Hebrews chapters 3 and 4 and you'll find:
That it speaks of a people who practiced the 7th day observance, but DID NOT enter His Rest. The 7th day was merely a symbol, which was a foreshadow of entering Christ, but practicing a mere symbol or foreshadow of Christ would not allow them to truly experience the Rest that God has prepared for them. No more than they could truly experience the grace and forgiveness of God through the sacrifice of animals which was also explained later in the book of Hebrews.

Practicing these foreshadows of Christ merely gave a glimpse of what we were to expect and receive from Christ HIMSELF when He came. Entering Christ is to finally enter His Rest, by dying to yourself and ceasing from your own works, in order to allow His works to live through you.

Hebrews 4:1 "For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God [did] from His."

Galatians 2:20 "...it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me..."

"Come to me...and I will give you Rest..." -Jesus

 

[loveme1]

Hebrews 4
King James Version (KJV)

4 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Nothing here says: Sabbath not to be kept, it is talking about the New covenant.

 

[loveme1]

My Spirit is content with that which I received by the Holy Spirit.

If you be content also with that which you received, then so be it.

Let us not continue to contest with one and other.

Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah be my Judge if I be in error.

 

[Spiritual_Plague]

Jesus is the I AM and the I AM is the one who gave the Law on Mt Sinai, so the 10 commandments are the commandments of Jesus.
John 8:58
(58) Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Exodus 3:14
(14) And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Apostle Paul taught something different than that concerning what the commandments of Jesus were, and I'm pretty sure his authority over the church exceeds yours.

Here's what apostle Paul taught as the commandments of Jesus:
1Cr 14:37 "...the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord." If you want to teach and interpret that the commandments of Jesus are something other than what Paul specifically said and wrote to the churches, then your claim doesn't fit with the witness of Paul, under his apostolic authority over the church, nor the scriptures.

Where did Paul instruct the church to observe the Sabbath in any of the letters? There was no such instruction, meaning no such commandment of the Lord if the things that he wrote were really the commandments of the Lord.

 

[Spiritual_Plague]

My Spirit is content with that which I received by the Holy Spirit.

If you be content also with that which you received, then so be it.

Let us not continue to contest with one and other.

Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah be my Judge if I be in error.

What you said about the scripture not actually saying for the Sabbath to be kept or not to be kept was true in your previous post. I was just trying to share that the 7th day was instilled as a foreshadow of what we have in Christ, and not the literal avenue that we enter into His Rest by.

I'm not against anyone keeping the Sabbath if that's what they'd like to do and I don't believe Apostle Paul was against that either:

Rom 14:5-6
"5 One person esteems [one] day above another; another esteems every day [alike]. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes [it] to the Lord; [fn] and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe [it]. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks."

Paul said that there were going to be different convictions for different believers within Christianity about certain things that were permissible either way. We just needed to accept that what one persons conscience allows another's might not.

The only reason I got involved in the general discussion is because when the issue of observing the Sabbath comes up, it automatically turns into a law issue being pressed onto the whole of Christianity rather than leaving it where Paul left it: a personal conscience call permissible to be observed or not, without judgement, for individuals within Christianity.

 

[JaumeJ]

What you said about the scripture not actually saying for the Sabbath to be kept or not to be kept was true in your previous post. I was just trying to share that the 7th day was instilled as a foreshadow of what we have in Christ, and not the literal avenue that we enter into His Rest by.

I'm not against anyone keeping the Sabbath if that's what they'd like to do and I don't believe Apostle Paul was against that either:

Rom 14:5-6
"5 One person esteems [one] day above another; another esteems every day [alike]. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes [it] to the Lord; [fn] and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe [it]. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks."

Paul said that there were going to be different convictions for different believers within Christianity about certain things that were permissible either way. We just needed to accept that what one persons conscience allows another's might not.

The only reason I got involved in the general discussion is because when the issue of observing the Sabbath comes up, it automatically turns into a law issue being pressed onto the whole of Christianity rather than leaving it where Paul left it: a personal conscience call permissible to be observed or not, without judgement, for individuals within Christianity.

Yeshua, Jesus, was called on healing on the Sabbath. Traditions of man had crept into the interpretation of the spirit of truth about what the Sabbath is. The Sabbath is a day set aside by commandment from our Maker to spend with our Maker in peace and rest from our daily labor, however there is NO DAY set aside from doing good. Thus Yeshua teaches one may do good on the Sabbath when some necessary task should arise. To do good because one loves YHWH always glorifies YHWH. Man being LORD OF THE SABBATH only extends to this teaching, not to change the commandment of YHWH. If you believe otherwise, I am afraid you have been swept up by the traditions of man being taught as commandment from Yeshua, and this is simply not the case. The Sabbath was made for man to enjoy being with our Lord and at peace with Him, amen.

Even a suggestion from God should be taken as a commandment. The Maker of all that is does not need the agreement of the created.

 

[loveme1]

What you said about the scripture not actually saying for the Sabbath to be kept or not to be kept was true in your previous post. I was just trying to share that the 7th day was instilled as a foreshadow of what we have in Christ, and not the literal avenue that we enter into His Rest by.

I'm not against anyone keeping the Sabbath if that's what they'd like to do and I don't believe Apostle Paul was against that either:

Rom 14:5-6
"5 One person esteems [one] day above another; another esteems every day [alike]. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes [it] to the Lord; [fn] and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe [it]. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks."

Paul said that there were going to be different convictions for different believers within Christianity about certain things that were permissible either way. We just needed to accept that what one persons conscience allows another's might not.

The only reason I got involved in the general discussion is because when the issue of observing the Sabbath comes up, it automatically turns into a law issue being pressed onto the whole of Christianity rather than leaving it where Paul left it: a personal conscience call permissible to be observed or not, without judgement, for individuals within Christianity.

Then you accept that I share what I received not to condemn another who does not Keep Sabbath, but to share the Light put in me..

And scripture to me does not teach the Sabbath is not to be kept.

And if someone uses a verse that I believe is misinterpreting what is being taught then I share my understanding.

I remind others what is written.....

It is not to be against anyone, rather to be for the teaching received through the Holy Spirit, Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah my witness that all things shared are for their Glory and the learning of others.

 

[Spiritual_Plague]

Absolutely. I feel the same way, but I think I come across more aggressive than I mean to most times heh heh

 

[Red33]

You can keep the Sabbath as you understand it to be, if you want, but for the NT believer it is not needed or necessary because we have come to Christ and entered into His rest for our souls. Calling our Lord by the name of JESUS is just as sacred and honorable to the Lord as the name Yeshua and for the Gentile it is the only name under heaven whereby men can be saved. Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath-rest and we have Him and are IN Him. We also have His Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. So then, if you desire to keep the Sabbath and others abide in Christ and keep themselves in the word and the love of God by assembling themselves with other believers, the love of God does not change nor is it partial.

If you believe the commandment to keep the Sabbath, then it is on you as a Jew and so be it, but it is not on the Gentile and has never been. You will never find a single command in the NT epistles for any Jewish or Gentile believer to keep the Sabbath in any of the churches and our beloved Paul, including the other apostles, never mention keeping of the Sabbath to any of the new converts, not even the house of Cornelius. Remember Paul got in trouble for teaching against the law of Moses concerning circumcision and was rejected for doing so.

I do not believe that the scriptures provide any evidence that the law of Moses did not include the law of the (10) commandments written by the finger of God. All law that was given included ordinances, judgments and penalties for transgressing it. These (10) were given by God to Moses for the people as were all the other laws. If anything the other laws, ordinances and judgements stem from the law given to Moses on Sinai to deal with specific situations and for the people to reveal sin and live a holy consecrated life before a holy God. The law came by Moses BUT grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

If you want to live under any of the laws including the law of the (10) commandments then you also must live under the judgments and condemnation of transgressing them as well. If you are not willing to be judged or condemned when you transgress the law then you are not really under the law but only under the pretence of keeping the law. This is why we are under grace and not the law so that we will not judge or condemn one another or be condemned with the world.

 

[loveme1]

You can keep the Sabbath as you understand it to be, if you want, but for the NT believer it is not needed or necessary because we have come to Christ and entered into His rest for our souls. Calling our Lord by the name of JESUS is just as sacred and honorable to the Lord as the name Yeshua and for the Gentile it is the only name under heaven whereby men can be saved. Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath-rest and we have Him and are IN Him. We also have His Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. So then, if you desire to keep the Sabbath and others abide in Christ and keep themselves in the word and the love of God by assembling themselves with other believers, the love of God does not change nor is it partial.

If you believe the commandment to keep the Sabbath, then it is on you as a Jew and so be it, but it is not on the Gentile and has never been. You will never find a single command in the NT epistles for any Jewish or Gentile believer to keep the Sabbath in any of the churches and our beloved Paul, including the other apostles, never mention keeping of the Sabbath to any of the new converts, not even the house of Cornelius. Remember Paul got in trouble for teaching against the law of Moses concerning circumcision and was rejected for doing so.

I do not believe that the scriptures provide any evidence that the law of Moses did not include the law of the (10) commandments written by the finger of God. All law that was given included ordinances, judgments and penalties for transgressing it. These (10) were given by God to Moses for the people as were all the other laws. If anything the other laws, ordinances and judgements stem from the law given to Moses on Sinai to deal with specific situations and for the people to reveal sin and live a holy consecrated life before a holy God. The law came by Moses BUT grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

If you want to live under any of the laws including the law of the (10) commandments then you also must live under the judgments and condemnation of transgressing them as well. If you are not willing to be judged or condemned when you transgress the law then you are not really under the law but only under the pretence of keeping the law. This is why we are under grace and not the law so that we will not judge or condemn one another or be condemned with the world.

So what Law have you Trespassed to need forgiving of your sins?

 

[loveme1]

If you want to live under any of the laws including the law of the (10) commandments then you also must live under the judgments and condemnation of transgressing them as well.

No, you see our New covenant is Yahshua the Messiah.

Grace takes the condemnation of sin!!!!

You are making your own idea of the covenant up here, you must stop...


He did not take the Law away, he took the penalty of breaking the Law of Yahvah God.

He fulfilled the Law of Moses to be the only sin offering for our Trespass.

 

[xino]

my post was ignored.
but I will add another to show more proof why many are wrong and currently sinning right now.

Listen:
Romans 13: 8
8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”[a] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

do you hear/read that? Jesus said LOVE fulfils all commandments in the bible!
So if you don't honour Sabbath day but you love others that day, you have fulfilled Jesus's law as Honouring sabbath day is the same as loving someone!

here's an analogy-
you were supposed to take your family to the beach and spend time with them but you were called in for work to do an important shift. You went to work instead and was nice to your colleague or customers for the day.

Result=
You worked on Sabbath day whereas you should have rested with your family, therefore I say to you that you have not sin!
Jesus said which is better, to heal on sabbath day or to ignore the lame and fufil the sabbath?
Matthew 12:11
And he answered, "If you had a sheep that fell into a well on the Sabbath, wouldn't you work to pull it out? Of course you would.

You showed love to other people except the ones you already love. In the end you commited God's law by loving your neighbour as you love yourself and your love ones.
Luke 6:32
"If you love only those who love you, why should you get credit for that? Even sinners love those who love them!

Even though customers was not involved, you showed love to your employer/manager because you did something you didn't want to do!
Matthew 7:12
"Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets."

there was one verse in the bible that I saw the other day and I can't remember it!
It said something about we should do things for others even though we don't want to.
Which is what you did, you said yes to your manager, showing her love. You may call it deed or favour, in the end love comes out from favour/deed/


Seriously I am getting tired of this forum and people's opinion and self esteem, thinking they know it all and they are God's favourite child.
Why do you all question people's knowledge of what they believe in God? you are causing trouble!

This forum is meant to be a place for Christians to celebrate, socialise, share the bible and testimonies.
But many has turned it to a place of arguments and den of sin!

ROMANS 14
14 Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. 2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. 4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.
This is not a debate but problem of self esteem and quarrelling!


I will soon be leaving this place as I don't want to associate with people who judge others and quarrel with their beliefs all the time.

 

[JaumeJ]

Yeshua, Jesus, was called on healing on the Sabbath. Traditions of man had crept into the interpretation of the spirit of truth about what the Sabbath is. The Sabbath is a day set aside by commandment from our Maker to spend with our Maker in peace and rest from our daily labor, however there is NO DAY set aside from doing good. Thus Yeshua teaches one may do good on the Sabbath when some necessary task should arise. To do good because one loves YHWH always glorifies YHWH. Man being LORD OF THE SABBATH only extends to this teaching, not to change the commandment of YHWH. If you believe otherwise, I am afraid you have been swept up by the traditions of man being taught as commandment from Yeshua, and this is simply not the case. The Sabbath was made for man to enjoy being with our Lord and at peace with Him, amen.

This is re-posted since the same questions and assumptions are yet being posted without having addressed the truth of the Word contained therein.

 

[JaumeJ]

my post was ignored.
but I will add another to show more proof why many are wrong and currently sinning right now.

Listen:
Romans 13: 8
8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”[a] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

do you hear/read that? Jesus said LOVE fulfils all commandments in the bible!
So if you don't honour Sabbath day but you love others that day, you have fulfilled Jesus's law as Honouring sabbath day is the same as loving someone!

here's an analogy-
you were supposed to take your family to the beach and spend time with them but you were called in for work to do an important shift. You went to work instead and was nice to your colleague or customers for the day.

Result=
You worked on Sabbath day whereas you should have rested with your family, therefore I say to you that you have not sin!
Jesus said which is better, to heal on sabbath day or to ignore the lame and fufil the sabbath?
Matthew 12:11
And he answered, "If you had a sheep that fell into a well on the Sabbath, wouldn't you work to pull it out? Of course you would.

You showed love to other people except the ones you already love. In the end you commited God's law by loving your neighbour as you love yourself and your love ones.
Luke 6:32
"If you love only those who love you, why should you get credit for that? Even sinners love those who love them!

Even though customers was not involved, you showed love to your employer/manager because you did something you didn't want to do!
Matthew 7:12
"Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets."

there was one verse in the bible that I saw the other day and I can't remember it!
It said something about we should do things for others even though we don't want to.
Which is what you did, you said yes to your manager, showing her love. You may call it deed or favour, in the end love comes out from favour/deed/


Seriously I am getting tired of this forum and people's opinion and self esteem, thinking they know it all and they are God's favourite child.
Why do you all question people's knowledge of what they believe in God? you are causing trouble!

This forum is meant to be a place for Christians to celebrate, socialise, share the bible and testimonies.
But many has turned it to a place of arguments and den of sin!

ROMANS 14
14 Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. 2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. 4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.
This is not a debate but problem of self esteem and quarrelling!


I will soon be leaving this place as I don't want to associate with people who judge others and quarrel with their beliefs all the time.

Xino, You are God's favorite child, but then we all are. Only Almighty and All Capable God is able to do this. I just reposted something from the Word and from the Master, Himself, because it was ignored. Don't you dare leave. This forum is intended for the Body of Messiah, yet at times it seems the majority of posts are from people who would rather discuss comparative world religions than the Word of the namesake of this Forum. I call Jesus by His Hebrew name (as close as I am taught to understand) but this has no bearing on the salvation of anyone who does not. It is simply my choice. YHWH bless you and always hold you close, amen. There are many who read posts and simply keep them to themselves.

 

[Laodicea]

Mark 2:27
(27) And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

Jesus said the sabbath was made for man He did not say that it was made for the Jews only.

Exodus 20:11
(11) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The Lord blessed the sabbath day, He made it for man (not just the Jews) and those who do not keep it are missing out on a blessing. God has not blessed any other day of the week so therefore we are not to keep any other day of the week as a holy day because only one day of the week has been made holy. God has not removed His blessing from the sabbath day so we should still be keeping the 7th day as a holy day.

 

[Spiritual_Plague]

In Christ, I have ceased from all my works. It's no longer I who live, but Christ in me. In Christ, I've entered the true rest.

What's more useful, the shadow of a couch or the couch itself? The shadow of a couch is NOT useful for seating lol.

While Jesus Christ was in heaven, He cast many shadows on the earth that looked like the many things we see in the OT. When Christ came down to us, He shed light on everything and that light destroyed the shadows previously cast...and yet we still want to spend time looking for the shadows thinking they hold some kind of intrinsic power when the the very one who cast those shadows, is the very one who tells us to come to Him for rest, rather than His shadows.

Hebrews 10:1 "For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, [and] not the very image of the things, can never...make those who approach perfect."

Colossians 2:14, 16
14 having canceled the written code, with its regulations...he took it away...16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you...with regard to...a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

The reality is found in Christ, not shadows. The blessing is found in Christ- Every day is Holy and Blessed.

 

[loveme1]

14Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. 15Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 16Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

I will continue sharing the truth until Kingdom Come..........

Glory to Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.

 

[loveme1]

16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you...with regard to...a Sabbath day

John 5

10The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed. 11He answered them, He that made me whole, the same said unto me, Take up thy bed, and walk. 12Then asked they him, What man is that which said unto thee, Take up thy bed, and walk? 13And he that was healed wist not who it was: for Jesus had conveyed himself away, a multitude being in that place. 14Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee. 15The man departed, and told the Jews that it was Jesus, which had made him whole. 16And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day. 17But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

If Yahshua the Messiah says "take up thy bed" and the pharisees say "it is not lawful"

Can you not see what the verse you use is referring to?

 

[loveme1]

Acts 13

42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

Gentiles were keeping the Sabbath?

44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

People came together to hear the word of Yahvah God on the Sabbath? did they not have work that day?

No, because they were observing the Sabbath day.