Sabbath made for Man

[Red33]

Are you saying you don't understand those verses?

And I ask you if we disobey God what happens?

The will of God is that we love him right?

Do you love him?

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

If you still don't understand ask the Lord for his spirit and he will bring you in to all truth. And after you hear the truth hear the words of James

Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
Jas 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
Jas 1:24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
Jas 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
Jas 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

To be a doer of the word, you have to hear the word first. To love God we must let God love us first. This is the first love that the church at Ephesus had left and needed to return to. To love our neighbor we must love ourselves first. How many of you believe that God the Father loves Himself with a perfect love? How many of you believe that God the Son loves Himself with a perfect love? If we have fellowship with the Father and the Son, we love not the world, but we love ourself with that same love that is in the Father and the Son and is shed abroad in our hearts through the Holy Spirit. Believers get depressed and are fearful as a practice because they have never learned to let God love them and to love themselves with that same love that comes from God.

To love God I must receive that love and keep myself in that love through edification with other believers and stir up hope through the comfort of the Scriptures (Rom 5:5, 15:4). The more we receive the love of God the greater the capacity we have to love God and love others. Keeping the commandments is nothing more than having the love of God operating and active in the heart by faith. Sometimes we have to take a step of faith when we don't want to and God honors that faith and stirs His love up in us through the Holy Spirit for the situation.

 

[angelofmercy]

Are you saying you don't understand those verses?

And I ask you if we disobey God what happens?

The will of God is that we love him right?

Do you love him?

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

If you still don't understand ask the Lord for his spirit and he will bring you in to all truth. And after you hear the truth hear the words of James

Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
Jas 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
Jas 1:24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
Jas 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
Jas 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

I understand them, but I do not twist them to my own destruction. I love Him with all my heart. You have hard the truth, now listen to the words of James as well beloved.

James 1:2-

2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;

3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

9 Let the brother of low degree rejoice in that he is exalted:

10 But the rich, in that he is made low: because as the flower of the grass he shall pass away.

11 For the sun is no sooner risen with a burning heat, but it withereth the grass, and the flower thereof falleth, and the grace of the fashion of it perisheth: so also shall the rich man fade away in his ways.

12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.

13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

We both claim truth, but for this reason WE BOTH DIE. SO,

16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.

17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Jesus explained this in things like the sun shining on BOTH the good AND the bad and the rain as well.

18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:

20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

Who are those that endures temptation?

 

[LawofLove]

I understand them, but I do not twist them to my own destruction. I love Him with all my heart. You have hard the truth, now listen to the words of James as well beloved.

James 1:2-

2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;

3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

9 Let the brother of low degree rejoice in that he is exalted:

10 But the rich, in that he is made low: because as the flower of the grass he shall pass away.

11 For the sun is no sooner risen with a burning heat, but it withereth the grass, and the flower thereof falleth, and the grace of the fashion of it perisheth: so also shall the rich man fade away in his ways.

12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.

13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

We both claim truth, but for this reason WE BOTH DIE. SO,

16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.

17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Jesus explained this in things like the sun shining on BOTH the good AND the bad and the rain as well.

18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:

20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

Who are those that endures temptation?

Those who love God will endure temptation.

Ok well if you understand then James also says Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

So God will be your judge according to your knowledge of him not me. The word tells me to live according to every word that comes from the mouth of God.

Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

So by the grace of God I will do as he commands me. Like Paul says Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

So when I read the bible Sunday keeping is not of the word of God.

Do you keep Sunday? If so Why do you keep Sunday? And if you say because Jesus came back to life on that day. Then where in the bible dos it tell us to keep Sunday for that reason?? If you cant find anything then I would ask this also, Why do you follow something extra that's not in the word? My faith comes from the word not the worlds traditions.Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

 

[weakness]

Who art though that judgeth another mans servant? Him that is weak inthe faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. to his own master he standeth or falleth Tea he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. LET EVERY MAN BE FULLY PERSUADED IN HIS OWN MIND. hE THAT REGARDETH THE DAY, REGARDETH IT UNTO THE LORD; AND HE THAT REGARDETH NOT THE DAY, TO THE LORD HE DOTH NOT REGARD IT.But why dost thou judge thy broter? Or why do you set at nought thy brother? Let us not therefore judge one another any more but judge this rather ,that no man put a stumbling block or an occasion to fall in his brothers way. I know and am perrsuadedby the lord Jesus that nothing is unclean of itself , but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.... Let not your good be evil spoken of. For the kindom of God is not meat or drink ( or days) but righeousness ,peace,and joy in the Holy Spirit.He that regardeth the day, to the lord he doth regard it. ....Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace. Happy is the man that condemeth not himself in th e thing that he alloweth. But he that douteth is damned , For what soever is not of faith is sin.

 

[A-Omega]

Who art though that judgeth another mans servant? Him that is weak inthe faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. to his own master he standeth or falleth Tea he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. LET EVERY MAN BE FULLY PERSUADED IN HIS OWN MIND. hE THAT REGARDETH THE DAY, REGARDETH IT UNTO THE LORD; AND HE THAT REGARDETH NOT THE DAY, TO THE LORD HE DOTH NOT REGARD IT.But why dost thou judge thy broter? Or why do you set at nought thy brother? Let us not therefore judge one another any more but judge this rather ,that no man put a stumbling block or an occasion to fall in his brothers way. I know and am perrsuadedby the lord Jesus that nothing is unclean of itself , but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.... Let not your good be evil spoken of. For the kindom of God is not meat or drink ( or days) but righeousness ,peace,and joy in the Holy Spirit.He that regardeth the day, to the lord he doth regard it. ....Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace. Happy is the man that condemeth not himself in th e thing that he alloweth. But he that douteth is damned , For what soever is not of faith is sin.

This is why I also do not get involved in the all the arguments about celebrating Christmas on Dec 25th.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

problems with modern day saturday sabbath keeping...

when God created the sabbath he only blessed it...he did not command his entire creation to observe the sabbath in any special way...

God gave no particular command regarding the sabbath until after the exodus...when he commanded the israelites in the desert not to gather manna on the sabbath...

when God finally did give commands regarding the sabbath...those commands were delivered only to israel...gentiles were never commanded to observe the sabbath...

jesus didn't seem to care much about the sabbath...he omitted the sabbath every time he had an opportunity to list the commandments that had to be kept...and he was also accused of being a sabbath breaker several times...

the apostles didn't seem to care much about the sabbath either...when they sent a letter to the gentile christians telling them what their obligations were...they made no mention of keeping the sabbath...

for that matter the holy spirit didn't seem to care much about the sabbath...since the apostles' letter said they were commanding what 'seemed good to the holy spirit'

paul calls the sabbath a shadow of the reality that is christ...and places it in the same category as the dietary laws and annual festivals and new moons that were made superfluous by christ's coming...

the apostle john never wrote any scripture condemning the replacement of saturday with sunday...even though the historical record shows that one of john's own students advocated replacing saturday with sunday...apparently john had no problem with this...

there are other problems but these are all i can think of at the moment...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

I googled this and this is what I found. I dont know a lot about this stuff so take it for what its worth.


Ellen G. White [7th Day Deception] Psychopathic Mental Patient and SATURN worshipper - YouTube

i didn't watch the whole video...but i do recall reading that ellen white claimed to have a vision where she saw enoch living on a planet matching the description of saturn... it never occurred to me to connect this with her doctrine regarding 'saturn's day' though...

 

[tribesman]

Who art though that judgeth another mans servant? Him that is weak inthe faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. to his own master he standeth or falleth Tea he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. LET EVERY MAN BE FULLY PERSUADED IN HIS OWN MIND. hE THAT REGARDETH THE DAY, REGARDETH IT UNTO THE LORD; AND HE THAT REGARDETH NOT THE DAY, TO THE LORD HE DOTH NOT REGARD IT.But why dost thou judge thy broter? Or why do you set at nought thy brother? Let us not therefore judge one another any more but judge this rather ,that no man put a stumbling block or an occasion to fall in his brothers way. I know and am perrsuadedby the lord Jesus that nothing is unclean of itself , but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.... Let not your good be evil spoken of. For the kindom of God is not meat or drink ( or days) but righeousness ,peace,and joy in the Holy Spirit.He that regardeth the day, to the lord he doth regard it. ....Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace. Happy is the man that condemeth not himself in th e thing that he alloweth. But he that douteth is damned , For what soever is not of faith is sin.

This scripture (Rom.14) is not about the sabbath (or clean/unclean meats) but about fasting.

 

[chesser]

I understand why some people dont keep the sabbath, its incovinient sometimes, but i obey god, even when its invonvinient, and i would hope others do too

 

[weakness]

This scripture (Rom.14) is not about the sabbath (or clean/unclean meats) but about fasting.

I was waiting for some response, but ,I wast exspecting this.I have never herd that these sciptures were talking about fastig . Has any one else herd this as te meaning . maybe it is?????I guess it could be. At least until verse 7.Here we start talking about living and diying. maybe you could interrperate this spiritualy that eating would cause you to be condemed unto death??V. 14 says " nothing uclean of itself"I think this reaches far beyond fasting . Butplease tell me why you beleive these scriptures are refering to fasting.

 

[tribesman]

I was waiting for some response, but ,I wast exspecting this.I have never herd that these sciptures were talking about fastig . Has any one else herd this as te meaning . maybe it is?????I guess it could be. At least until verse 7.Here we start talking about living and diying. maybe you could interrperate this spiritualy that eating would cause you to be condemed unto death??V. 14 says " nothing uclean of itself"I think this reaches far beyond fasting . Butplease tell me why you beleive these scriptures are refering to fasting.

It is clear from the context and the words used that this is about fasting. Has nothing to do with sabbath or feast days.

And, yes, nothing is unclean by itself, it is God alone who declare what is clean and unclean.

 

[LawofLove]

Who art though that judgeth another mans servant? Him that is weak inthe faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. to his own master he standeth or falleth Tea he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. LET EVERY MAN BE FULLY PERSUADED IN HIS OWN MIND. hE THAT REGARDETH THE DAY, REGARDETH IT UNTO THE LORD; AND HE THAT REGARDETH NOT THE DAY, TO THE LORD HE DOTH NOT REGARD IT.But why dost thou judge thy broter? Or why do you set at nought thy brother? Let us not therefore judge one another any more but judge this rather ,that no man put a stumbling block or an occasion to fall in his brothers way. I know and am perrsuadedby the lord Jesus that nothing is unclean of itself , but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.... Let not your good be evil spoken of. For the kindom of God is not meat or drink ( or days) but righeousness ,peace,and joy in the Holy Spirit.He that regardeth the day, to the lord he doth regard it. ....Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace. Happy is the man that condemeth not himself in th e thing that he alloweth. But he that douteth is damned , For what soever is not of faith is sin.

Says nothing about the Sabbath.

 

[LawofLove]

This scripture (Rom.14) is not about the sabbath (or clean/unclean meats) but about fasting.

I guess you could say they are fasting from eating meats offered to idols. In other words staying away from that just in case. Compare Rom 14:1-2 with 1cor 8:8-10


Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

1Co 8:8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
1Co 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
1Co 8:10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;

 

[tribesman]

I guess you could say they are fasting from eating meats offered to idols. In other words staying away from that just in case. Compare Rom 14:1-2 with 1cor 8:8-10


Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

1Co 8:8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
1Co 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
1Co 8:10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;

I did an in-depth study on Romans 14 about ten years ago, looking at the greek text as well as the contemporary environment. Conclusion was that the text deals nothing with either the sabbath day, the feast days or the issue of clean/unclean meats. It deals with fasting. Eating meat sacrificed to idols was out of the question and some care was used to avoid such. But the meat sold at the "shambles" (1Cor.10:25) was no problem since it was regularly not sacrificed meat.

 

[weakness]

Thanks for the reply tribman. Ive got to go now but might talk tomarrow

 

[LawofLove]

I did an in-depth study on Romans 14 about ten years ago, looking at the greek text as well as the contemporary environment. Conclusion was that the text deals nothing with either the sabbath day, the feast days or the issue of clean/unclean meats. It deals with fasting. Eating meat sacrificed to idols was out of the question and some care was used to avoid such. But the meat sold at the "shambles" (1Cor.10:25) was no problem since it was regularly not sacrificed meat.

Well when it comes to rom 14:5-6

I compare rom 14:5-6 to Gal 4:10

Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.


Gal 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.

Some say the "days" here refer to the 7th day Sabbath Paul here refers to the seven ceremonial sabbaths and the new moons of the ceremonial system (see Lev. 23; Num. 10:10; 28:11–15). There is no basis in Scripture for assuming, as some do, that the “days” of which Paul here speaks refer to the seventh-day Sabbath. Nowhere in the Bible is the seventh day referred to in the language here used. Furthermore, the seventh-day Sabbath was instituted at creation (see on Gen. 2:1–3; cf. on Ex. 20:8–11), before the entrance of sin and some 2,500 years before the inauguration of the ceremonial system at Mt. Sinai. If observance of the seventh-day Sabbath subjects a man to bondage, it must be that the Creator Himself entered into bondage when He observed the world’s first Sabbath! And that conclusion is unthinkable.Nichol, Francis D.: The Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, Volume 6. Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1978; 2002, S. 967

So on one hand I agree that rom 14 talks about fasting and I agree that the 7th day Sabbath is not talked about in Rom14 but I do see how this ties in to the ceremonial system that Paul was warning about in the book of Gal.

 

[tribesman]

Well when it comes to rom 14:5-6

I compare rom 14:5-6 to Gal 4:10

Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.


Gal 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.

Some say the "days" here refer to the 7th day Sabbath Paul here refers to the seven ceremonial sabbaths and the new moons of the ceremonial system (see Lev. 23; Num. 10:10; 28:11–15). There is no basis in Scripture for assuming, as some do, that the “days” of which Paul here speaks refer to the seventh-day Sabbath. Nowhere in the Bible is the seventh day referred to in the language here used. Furthermore, the seventh-day Sabbath was instituted at creation (see on Gen. 2:1–3; cf. on Ex. 20:8–11), before the entrance of sin and some 2,500 years before the inauguration of the ceremonial system at Mt. Sinai. If observance of the seventh-day Sabbath subjects a man to bondage, it must be that the Creator Himself entered into bondage when He observed the world’s first Sabbath! And that conclusion is unthinkable.Nichol, Francis D.: The Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, Volume 6. Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1978; 2002, S. 967

So on one hand I agree that rom 14 talks about fasting and I agree that the 7th day Sabbath is not talked about in Rom14 but I do see how this ties in to the ceremonial system that Paul was warning about in the book of Gal.

I do not believe that the "days, and months, and times, and years" refers to anything in God's law, be it the sabbath or the feast days.

I guess where we differ is on the view of "the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us" (Col.2.14). I do not see this scripture as referring to God's "ceremonial" law, while SDAs usually does.

However, I do agree that there is a difference between the commandment of the sabbath day, which was pre-sinai, and the commandments of for example the feast days.

PS. I was into heb rootism for quite a while, so of course I'm colored by that.

 

[tribesman]

Thanks for the reply tribman. Ive got to go now but might talk tomarrow

Sure. Let me know your thoughts/questions, if you will.

 

[LawofLove]

I guess where we differ is on the view of "the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us" (Col.2.14). I do not see this scripture as referring to God's "ceremonial" law, while SDAs usually does.

However, I do agree that there is a difference between the commandment of the sabbath day, which was pre-sinai, and the commandments of for example the feast days.

Handwriting. Gr. cheirographon, “a document written by hand.” The word occurs only here in the NT. Elsewhere the word is frequently used of handwritten documents often of a legal character, such as a bond signed by a debtor. Compare Philemon 19. The “blotting out” of such a certificate of indebtedness was carried out only after the debt had been paid and the conditions of the note had been completely met. It was often done by placing an “X” over it, as shown by papyri examples. Also, the water-soluble ink on papyrus could be washed off or rubbed away, and new writing placed upon the material. Some commentators hold that the apostle is telling the Colossian church that their regeneration through the resurrection power of God, the restoration within them of His image, was carried out by God’s blotting out, or canceling, the indebtedness of the bond they were due to fulfill. Others see a more general reference to the Mosaic law, especially as interpreted by the Jews. The latter view seems to be more in harmony with the succeeding context. The similarity with the language of Eph. 2:15 and the parallel nature of these two epistles suggest strongly that the “handwriting of ordinances” is the same as the “law of commandments contained in ordinances” (see on Eph. 2:15).

 

[RedTent]

Rachel, you are not truly reading scripture with understanding.

when God created the sabbath he only blessed it...he did not command his entire creation to observe the sabbath in any special way...

There are seven places in scripture where God commanded us to keep the Sabbath, meaning Saturday.

when God finally did give commands regarding the sabbath...those commands were delivered only to israel...gentiles were never commanded to observe the sabbath...

When you say there is one God for us, another for Israel, you are misquoting scripture, that is a frightening thing for you to do. The world has only one God. We are to listen to God. He had a special way to train the Israelites in the desert, but even if we are excused from some of the training rituals, we are to listen and learn God’s principles.

jesus didn't seem to care much about the sabbath...he omitted the sabbath every time he had an opportunity to list the commandments that had to be kept...and he was also accused of being a sabbath breaker several times...

Saying Jesus disobeyed is quite a statement!! Jesus taught that each commandment is part of the law of love, so when he was told that they must obey the man made Talmud about the Sabbath and be hungry, they were breaking the Sabbath. The apostles were hungry, they plucked wheat against Talmud law. Christ objected, but not to keeping the Sabbath.

]the apostles didn't seem to care much about the sabbath either...when they sent a letter to the gentile christians telling them what their obligations were...they made no mention of keeping the sabbath..

for that matter the holy spirit didn't seem to care much about the sabbath...since the apostles' letter said they were commanding what 'seemed good to the holy spirit'

Omission means sanctification? No.

paul calls the sabbath a shadow of the reality that is christ...and places it in the same category as the dietary laws and annual festivals and new moons that were made superfluous by christ's coming...

Paul let us know that the rituals God used for training were not required for our walk in the Lord, although the spirit they were teaching was necessary.

the apostle john never wrote any scripture condemning the replacement of saturday with sunday...even though the historical record shows that one of john's own students advocated replacing saturday with sunday...apparently john had no problem with this...

God accepts even disobedient children, but wouldn’t you rather be an obedient one?